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    Thread: APR Presents The BFGoodrich MaxR! -- Build Thread --

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      04-24-2012 09:14 PM #51
      Okay... I'm going to sound real newbish here, but what exactly is an upright? It looks pretty and I probably need to purchase them, but I have no idea what it does. Those lower control arms look pretty too.

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      04-24-2012 10:04 PM #52
      Quote Originally Posted by provenflipper View Post
      Okay... I'm going to sound real newbish here, but what exactly is an upright? It looks pretty and I probably need to purchase them, but I have no idea what it does. Those lower control arms look pretty too.
      Simple explination: The upright holds the suspension to the wheel.

      I'll get photos. Btw, never a noob question. Lots to be learned here!
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      04-24-2012 11:28 PM #53
      Quote Originally Posted by Siliconrane View Post
      So, when you stuffing the 2.5 turbo from that TT-RS you have in there?

      Indeed - Upgrades. Get rid of those crap tires.
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      04-24-2012 11:37 PM #54
      Quote Originally Posted by Arin@APR View Post
      Simple explination: The upright holds the suspension to the wheel.

      I'll get photos. Btw, never a noob question. Lots to be learned here!


      Well this is this proper way to lower a car cause you are not reducing the amount of travel of suspension. At least from what I understanding your doing using TT-RS spindles, but not sure what shock setups you are using. You don't normal get this type suspension setup unless your build a custom setup or have a race car.

      I know when I made special dropped spindles and got custom shocks made for my 1990 Volvo 760 Turbo. Retained good ride quality while being lower at the same time but maintaining a suspension travel only 1/2" less then stock.

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      04-24-2012 11:42 PM #55
      Is that a VWR sway bar I see?

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      04-25-2012 12:02 AM #56
      Arin...

      This car is looking great...

      Cannot wait to see more updates about it!

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      04-25-2012 12:14 AM #57
      Quote Originally Posted by Arin@APR View Post
      You have extensive testing and research to back that up?
      Are you saying that your extensive testing and research showed that the g-Force Sport COMP-2 UHP out-performed the Bridgestone RE-11 & Yokohama AD08 EP tires under autocross or PDX conditions? I find that hard to believe.

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      04-25-2012 12:27 AM #58
      Quote Originally Posted by AutoX Matt View Post
      Are you saying that your extensive testing and research showed that the g-Force Sport COMP-2 UHP out-performed the Bridgestone RE-11 & Yokohama AD08 EP tires under autocross or PDX conditions? I find that hard to believe.
      I thought BFGoodrich only came on GM's anymore. JK
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      04-25-2012 12:34 AM #59
      Quote Originally Posted by AutoX Matt View Post
      Are you saying that your extensive testing and research showed that the g-Force Sport COMP-2 UHP out-performed the Bridgestone RE-11 & Yokohama AD08 EP tires under autocross or PDX conditions? I find that hard to believe.
      Probably has more to do with the fact that BF is sponsoring part of the build.

      They are good tires though, from what I hear. I've heard good and bad things about the RE-11... wanted them for my last car but ended up going with Michelin Pilot Super Sports instead. I don't know much about the AD08's though.

      Anyway, there will always be arguments over which is THE best. There are a lot of good options out there. As long as you're running one of the well-documented premium brands in a street/track compound (~TW200) you should be okay, whether it's Michelin, Pirelli, BFGoodrich, Bridgestone, Yokohama, etc. Maybe one is a tad better here and there but there are a lot of variables... track conditions, track temps, weight of the car, suspension setup, and that's just the basics... and most of us aren't good enough to really find the minute grip differences between two or three different sets of similar street/track premium tires anyway. Do your own research and run what you're comfortable with, that's the important thing.
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      04-25-2012 08:23 AM #60
      Arin

      While I seach the breaker yards for a crashed TT RS can you give us a heads up to what you replaced at both the from and back. I am asuming that you have replaced uprights and control arms at the front? what about the rear if anything? I assume also you are running the VWR suspension?
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      04-25-2012 09:11 AM #61
      could you provide more information and photos on those uprights because from looking at the R and TTRS ones side-by-side in those photos it seems as if y'all would have had to make significant modifications to even fit the TTRS ones in there?

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      04-25-2012 10:46 AM #62
      this thread needs more details.

      less pic whoring

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      04-25-2012 11:18 AM #63
      Arin how low did you guys went to have those arms parallel

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      04-25-2012 12:07 PM #64
      Quote Originally Posted by SoNgMaN View Post
      this thread needs more details.

      less pic whoring

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      04-25-2012 12:33 PM #65
      Guys, I'll get more information when I have a second to do so. I'm headed to Miami for our race and then another event right after so it may be a bit before I have details.
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      04-25-2012 12:45 PM #66
      Quote Originally Posted by Arin@APR View Post
      Guys, I'll get more information when I have a second to do so. I'm headed to Miami for our race and then another event right after so it may be a bit before I have details.

      Good Luck!!!
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      04-26-2012 05:52 PM #67
      ugh for the money im spending on this stuppid wedding i could build this car too ...... but loving the build keep it up

    18. 04-29-2012 12:13 PM #68
      I have been losing sleep thinking about this build!

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      04-29-2012 12:21 PM #69
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      05-01-2012 02:55 PM #70
      I should have some good updates later this week when I have a chance to work on more information!
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      05-01-2012 04:57 PM #71
      Quote Originally Posted by Arin@APR View Post
      I should have some good updates later this week when I have a chance to work on more information!
      Well I don't have the full update yet on installing the TTRS uprights, but what I do have is that it's not a direct bolt on. Modifications need to be made in a couple areas for this to all work out. When the appropriate people are in, I can get a little more information for you guys.
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      05-01-2012 05:32 PM #72
      A big part of the MaxR build will focus around tightening up a few soft areas around the engine and transmission. The factory Golf R is designed to work for a wide range of customers in loads of different situations. Comfort is always a big concern and one way of making things a bit more comfortable is to give up performance. VW did this was by using soft Engine, Transmission and Subframe mounts. They are not necessarily poor from the factory, don't get me wrong, but there is plenty of room for improvement for the enthusiast.

      The factory mounts allow quite a bit of engine movement when accelerating quickly off the line and between shifts. On front wheel drive cars, you'll even experience wheel hop in slippery conditions which can ultimately lead to broken components. To reduce the slop, we changed the mounts.

      First item to be replaced were the stock subframe mounts as seen here.



      These two pieces are pressed into the subframe and allow for quite a bit of movement. This part alone makes the creates improvement for the money. Engine vibration is kept to a minimum so you still have a very comfortable ride and movement between shifts and take up off the line is much improved.

      Here's a shot with the new mount installed:



      Next up on the list are the engine and transmission mounts. These will add a bit more in cabin vibration, which for some may not be ideal, but others report it makes them feel more connected to the car. Vibration is still minimal compared to some solid race mounts, which are overkill for almost even fully built, track dedicated, race cars. Replacing these two parts finishes up where the subframe mount left off. Both the engine and transmission will be unable to rock as much as stock under heavy take offs and between shifts, which can really make a difference when you're trying to get every last bit out of the car.

      Here's the stock engine mount vs the new engine mount:







      Transmission Mounts:



      Last edited by Arin@APR; 02-07-2014 at 03:12 PM.
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      05-01-2012 09:55 PM #73
      With all of the engine mount options out there I think I will definitely go with the VWR mounts. Seems they are proven and look pretty stout. They should match up well with the other available.

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      05-01-2012 10:36 PM #74
      these mounts look soo kill, to bad i'm not really a VW techy so i could actually appreciate what these things do and how they feel,so much to know about the new R with so little time , hard enough affording the R with all the mods , now this too .....never ending ...i love it ! lol

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      05-02-2012 09:04 AM #75
      hmm those look the same as mine... going to check you didnt ninja my mounts
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