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    Thread: APR Presents The BFGoodrich MaxR! -- Build Thread --

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      05-20-2012 06:57 PM #141
      Quote Originally Posted by droopy1592 View Post
      Which method did you guys use for esc defeat? That R gets a bit loose
      It's a canadian car.

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      05-20-2012 07:31 PM #142
      Quote Originally Posted by BigmountainVMD View Post
      Any info on that intake? Prototype Carbonio?

      Looks like the TSI carbon piece with the silicone hose from the stage 3 kit
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      05-20-2012 08:58 PM #143
      Just putting out feelers. I have located a few sets of the Max R upgraded control arms with anti lift/caster kits included and was able to find a seller in AU willing to ship worldwide. Is anyone interested?

      http://m.facebook.com/media/set/?set...R&refid=9&_rdr

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      05-20-2012 09:03 PM #144
      Quote Originally Posted by johnnyR32 View Post
      IMO the best place for mounting a euro plate is in the trash.

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      05-20-2012 09:42 PM #145
      Quote Originally Posted by BlackRabbit34 View Post
      I think it's going to be part of the stage 3/4 kit they will be releasing for the R late summer. Count me in though
      Count me in a well.

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      05-20-2012 10:03 PM #146
      Quote Originally Posted by DUBlclutch View Post
      Just putting out feelers. I have located a few sets of the Max R upgraded control arms with anti lift/caster kits included and was able to find a seller in AU willing to ship worldwide. Is anyone interested?

      http://m.facebook.com/media/set/?set...R&refid=9&_rdr
      count me in

    7. 05-20-2012 10:18 PM #147
      Quote Originally Posted by DUBlclutch View Post
      Just putting out feelers. I have located a few sets of the Max R upgraded control arms with anti lift/caster kits included and was able to find a seller in AU willing to ship worldwide. Is anyone interested?

      http://m.facebook.com/media/set/?set...R&refid=9&_rdr
      My interest relies on what sort of price these would come in at landed in either US or Canada.

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      05-21-2012 10:21 AM #148
      Quote Originally Posted by sup_lado View Post
      It's a canadian car.
      I need to steal me a canadian ABS unit
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      05-21-2012 12:44 PM #149
      A source from APR told me that they disabled the ESC the same that has been described here on the Vortex, but for potential liability reasons they most likely won't include the programming for it in any of their tunes. Which sort of makes sense, but there are so many cars that are performance based with no ESC or anything like it that I can't see the liability falling to them rather than the driver but then again I'm not a lawyer and this is a lawsuit trigger happy society.

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      05-21-2012 04:07 PM #150
      Quote Originally Posted by BigmountainVMD View Post
      Any info on that intake? Prototype Carbonio?
      The intake front portion is our APR Carbonio intake system for the 2.0 TSI. It connects to the parts included with the Stage 3 and beyond turbocharger system. The MAF housing is much larger than stock so it will not work on standard Stage 1/1+/2/2+ software.

      Quote Originally Posted by .:RTime View Post
      Only has 444hp......
      We were able to put down over 400 HP to the wheels on 93 octane with a few hours of tuning before the teaser release at SOWO, and here's the real kicker, it was on STOCK INJECTORS. Yes, you read that correctly, stock Golf R injectors. No extra fueling from injectors or w/m. Standard APR HPFP. OEM Golf R Rail pressure relief valve. APR Stage 4 Low Pressure Fueling System and to top it off, we are running a healthy air fuel ratio.

      I'm not aware of anyone else in the world hitting these kinds of numbers the way we have. This is going to be very good news for the community and we're just getting started.
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      05-21-2012 06:30 PM #151
      The car looked and sounded great at sowo guys

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      05-21-2012 09:24 PM #152
      Quote Originally Posted by Arin@APR View Post
      I'm not aware of anyone else in the world hitting these kinds of numbers the way we have. This is going to be very good news for the community and we're just getting started.
      Isnt TEFF hitting 580 something? or is that a crank number? Either way, this build is awesome. The Golf R future is definitely bright...

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      05-21-2012 10:19 PM #153
      Quote Originally Posted by Arin@APR View Post
      and here's the real kicker, it was on STOCK INJECTORS. Yes, you read that correctly, stock Golf R injectors. No extra fueling from injectors or w/m. Standard APR HPFP. OEM Golf R Rail pressure relief valve.
      If this is any indication of what the TSI Stage 3+ will be capable of with merely adding a HPFP, I'm sold.
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      05-21-2012 10:53 PM #154
      Quote Originally Posted by eurolife View Post
      Isnt TEFF hitting 580 something? or is that a crank number? Either way, this build is awesome. The Golf R future is definitely bright...
      Arin says that's an optimistic dyno. Regardless, I Teff. He was running AEM water-meth and RS4 injectors with that dyno.

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      05-22-2012 09:35 AM #155
      Interesting comment about the injectors Arin. I am curious as to why you include uprated injectors in your stage III build kit that I am running, considering I am only at about 330 whp.
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      05-22-2012 05:22 PM #156
      The shipping from AU is cost prohibitive. I was quoted $165aud ($162.50usd). However OTB in NY will special order. If enough interest is generated they will start to stock (so call and/or email)! 914-302-2431 ask for Amir. I was quoted $649 + shipping (UPS. 25# or less $25) so $674 (tax wasn't specified so assume that is included in quote). See link below. Also if anyone is still interested in the seller from AU (the price was cheaper, approx $570ish and seller willing to neg) let me know.

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      05-22-2012 06:19 PM #157
      Quote Originally Posted by DUBlclutch View Post
      The shipping from AU is cost prohibitive. I was quoted $165aud ($162.50usd). However OTB in NY will special order. If enough interest is generated they will start to stock (so call and/or email)! 914-302-2431 ask for Amir. I was quoted $649 + shipping (UPS. 25# or less $25) so $674 (tax wasn't specified so assume that is included in quote). See link below. Also if anyone is still interested in the seller from AU (the price was cheaper, approx $570ish and seller willing to neg) let me know.

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      DUBl
      That's a little high, still interested but we need to get a group buy going

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      05-24-2012 12:53 PM #158
      Quote Originally Posted by brandonekingatl View Post
      That's a little high, still interested but we need to get a group buy going
      New to forums and never established group buy or participated in one. However I do have a paypal Acct and other than calling OBT with cc info paypal is the only other option. Unfortunately the arms can't be purchased via the OBT website as they are not yet stocking these. I checked with Amir who confirmed OBT would honor a group buy and offer a discount (shipping would of course be less too). I could've missed someone but I think the following were interested:

      DUBl (me)
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      There may also be a couple of folks on golfmkv that will get in on this. Per Amir at least 5 sets (or more) must be purchased in order to guarantee the discount. PM if interested and for details.

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      05-24-2012 02:00 PM #159
      Quote Originally Posted by DUBlclutch View Post
      New to forums and never established group buy or participated in one. However I do have a paypal Acct and other than calling OBT with cc info paypal is the only other option. Unfortunately the arms can't be purchased via the OBT website as they are not yet stocking these. I checked with Amir who confirmed OBT would honor a group buy and offer a discount (shipping would of course be less too). I could've missed someone but I think the following were interested:

      DUBl (me)
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      Brandonekingatl
      codewhore

      There may also be a couple of folks on golfmkv that will get in on this. Per Amir at least 5 sets (or more) must be purchased in order to guarantee the discount. PM if interested and for details.

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      05-31-2012 04:17 PM #160
      With the motor built with strengthened, lightened and balanced internals, and the transmission upgraded with a new limited slip differential, it’s time to put it’s time to install the flywheel and clutch and put it back together so we can begin installing the APR Turbocharger System!



      The Stage III Endurance system is designed for road racing. It’s able to hold quite a bit of torque due to the increased clamping force of the pressure plate and the increased coefficient of friction on the Kevlar disc. The pressure plate makes the clutch pretty heavy at these levels, but since this is a racing clutch, the increase was expected and welcomed and will hold more torque than we need.



      The flywheel is also upgraded with a DXD single mass steel design that’s made from hot rolled low carbon steel. It’s resistant to warping and perfectly suited for the disc’s friction materials. The lightweight flywheel will eliminate rotating mass attached to the engine, freeing up a little more power. At idle there is an increase in sound from the clutch system that may not sound normal if you’ve never experienced the difference between a dual and single mass flywheel, however there’s not reason to be concerned as it’s completely normal.









      We also took this opportunity to begin installing a Short Shifter. The short shifter is not extreme by any means, but it comes with all the parts necessary to install and go and cleans up the shifts just enough to make a good difference without going overboard.



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      05-31-2012 05:24 PM #161
      Very nice. The clutch upgrade is very cool, but with the speed limiter gone and the trans already opened up, why not take the opportunity to swap in a set of hardened diesel gear ratios? This would give you theoretical gearing up to around 200 mph, but more importantly, eliminate an extra shift in 0-60 and 1/4 mile. And on top of everything else, it would lower freeway RPMS into a range more suitable for the engine.

      Either way, great job so far folks!

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      05-31-2012 05:37 PM #162
      Quote Originally Posted by ToeBall View Post
      Very nice. The clutch upgrade is very cool, but with the speed limiter gone and the trans already opened up, why not take the opportunity to swap in a set of hardened diesel gear ratios? This would give you theoretical gearing up to around 200 mph, but more importantly, eliminate an extra shift in 0-60 and 1/4 mile. And on top of everything else, it would lower freeway RPMS into a range more suitable for the engine.

      Either way, great job so far folks!
      If that doesnt cost a milleeeeeeeon dollars I'd like to do it myself.
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      05-31-2012 05:41 PM #163
      Quote Originally Posted by ToeBall View Post
      Very nice. The clutch upgrade is very cool, but with the speed limiter gone and the trans already opened up, why not take the opportunity to swap in a set of hardened diesel gear ratios? This would give you theoretical gearing up to around 200 mph, but more importantly, eliminate an extra shift in 0-60 and 1/4 mile. And on top of everything else, it would lower freeway RPMS into a range more suitable for the engine.

      Either way, great job so far folks!
      That's something we can look into doing down the road.
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      05-31-2012 05:46 PM #164
      Quote Originally Posted by Arin@APR View Post
      That's something we can look into doing down the road.
      Are we aware of the limitations of this stock gearbox (other than clutch)?

      I know the Subaru 6spds in the STI have been known to handle 600+hp no problem. It is the actual trans that many rally teams run.
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      05-31-2012 05:50 PM #165
      Quote Originally Posted by betterthansx View Post
      Are we aware of the limitations of this stock gearbox (other than clutch)?

      I know the Subaru 6spds in the STI have been known to handle 600+hp no problem. It is the actual trans that many rally teams run.
      Seemed like 600 hp r32s were eating one now and then
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      05-31-2012 05:53 PM #166
      Quote Originally Posted by ToeBall View Post
      Very nice. The clutch upgrade is very cool, but with the speed limiter gone and the trans already opened up, why not take the opportunity to swap in a set of hardened diesel gear ratios? This would give you theoretical gearing up to around 200 mph, but more importantly, eliminate an extra shift in 0-60 and 1/4 mile. And on top of everything else, it would lower freeway RPMS into a range more suitable for the engine.

      Either way, great job so far folks!
      That's something I'd be interested in. The gears are WAY too short right now and I'm only at 1+.

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      05-31-2012 06:08 PM #167
      Well, that's why I bring it up. It's an upgrade I was thinking about for my car down the road, maybe as part of a big turbo build. That's why I said treated gears instead of regular ones, should hold up to 600+ hp for quite some time. I figure the OEM gearset shouldn't be too bad, as it's all off the shelf stuff, and getting them either heat or cryo treated is pretty common. Probably figure somewhere south of $2k parts and labor (for the treating, not the install), or somewhere there about.

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      05-31-2012 08:42 PM #168
      Quote Originally Posted by ToeBall View Post
      Well, that's why I bring it up. It's an upgrade I was thinking about for my car down the road, maybe as part of a big turbo build. That's why I said treated gears instead of regular ones, should hold up to 600+ hp for quite some time. I figure the OEM gearset shouldn't be too bad, as it's all off the shelf stuff, and getting them either heat or cryo treated is pretty common. Probably figure somewhere south of $2k parts and labor (for the treating, not the install), or somewhere there about.
      Right now, the gearing is way to low....I could hit 62mph in 2nd gear, in my 12' GLI and then 99mph in 3rd. I'm well into 4th gear in my R trying to hit 100mph.....I would love the exact gear ratio as my GLI.....Doing 80 mph, I keep trying to up shift from 6th gear to 7th, but there isn't one...

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      05-31-2012 10:19 PM #169
      Quote Originally Posted by scottisha View Post
      Right now, the gearing is way to low....I could hit 62mph in 2nd gear, in my 12' GLI and then 99mph in 3rd. I'm well into 4th gear in my R trying to hit 100mph.....I would love the exact gear ratio as my GLI.....Doing 80 mph, I keep trying to up shift from 6th gear to 7th, but there isn't one...

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      05-31-2012 10:34 PM #170
      You guys let me know when you get that swap figured out.

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      05-31-2012 10:37 PM #171
      Quote Originally Posted by jsausley View Post
      You guys let me know when you get that swap figured out.
      As soon as I'm finished getting my flux capacitor to stage 2+, that'll be my next step
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      06-03-2012 05:33 PM #172
      Quote Originally Posted by Arin@APR View Post
      With the motor built with strengthened, lightened and balanced internals, and the transmission upgraded with a new limited slip differential, it’s time to put it’s time to install the flywheel and clutch and put it back together so we can begin installing the APR Turbocharger System!

      For this build we went with a DXD Stage III Endurance Clutch System as found here:
      http://www.goapr.com/products/dxdclu...id=20tfsitrans
      What is the weight savings over the stock unit? I know on the 350Z, replacing the dual-mass flywheel with a lighter flywheel dropped a lot of weight and had an awesome improvement on throttle response.

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      06-04-2012 11:36 AM #173
      Quote Originally Posted by Resolute View Post
      What is the weight savings over the stock unit? I know on the 350Z, replacing the dual-mass flywheel with a lighter flywheel dropped a lot of weight and had an awesome improvement on throttle response.

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      I'll have to see if I can weigh one when I get a chance.
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    34. 06-13-2012 09:49 AM #174
      Any word on when the NEW VW motorsports sway bars are coming?Also what did they change on them.updates?

    35. 06-16-2012 12:09 AM #175
      Anyone?Are they all at the BIG race this weekend?

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