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    1. 04-18-2012 02:10 PM #1
      Hey guys,

      My dealer talked me out of doing all the flushes for my 80K and concentrating more on changing the timing belt. I have a 2006 FSI 2.0t.

      Do you guys agree with that? I will just do oil and filte change and then the whole timingbelt change (and hopefulle swap out the cam follower).

      Too early? Thoughts?

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      04-18-2012 02:22 PM #2
      Nope 80k is being very safe. 90k is pushing it 100k is really really pushing it.
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      04-18-2012 02:30 PM #3
      I did mine at 90K. I have not heard of the belt failing before 100K so you should be okay up to that point.
      thankyouverymuch

    4. 04-18-2012 02:44 PM #4
      Thanks. They should be able to swap the cam follower really easily now right?

    5. 04-18-2012 05:30 PM #5
      Quote Originally Posted by joakim6945 View Post
      Thanks. They should be able to swap the cam follower really easily now right?
      I would be interested in that as well. I'm at 85K now and would like to do my timing belt, tensioner, water pump, cam follower, and this ignition service kit (http://www.ecstuning.com/Volkswagen-...ion/ES2535339/)

      I have heard that the water pump axel is plastic and prone to breaking at 100+ miles. Is this true or a rumor?

      Also, has anybody done an ignition service kit? Is it needed at that point?

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      04-18-2012 05:34 PM #6
      Quote Originally Posted by Cranford803 View Post
      I would be interested in that as well. I'm at 85K now and would like to do my timing belt, tensioner, water pump, cam follower, and this ignition service kit (http://www.ecstuning.com/Volkswagen-...ion/ES2535339/)

      I have heard that the water pump axel is plastic and prone to breaking at 100+ miles. Is this true or a rumor?

      Also, has anybody done an ignition service kit? Is it needed at that point?
      well i do need to change out my spark plugs... might as well change out the coils.

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      04-18-2012 05:53 PM #7
      Keep in mind that age and weather conditions play a role in the acutal belt deteriorating as much as mileage. Maybe I've been conservative but I never let 'em age past 7 years if the mileage hasn't been met.

      An audi tech I know made the recommendation a few years ago.

    8. 04-18-2012 06:10 PM #8
      Thats what my rep told me today. Due to the heat in TX the belt will galvanize at a quicker rate than in colder climates. I think the rep also said that they replace the waterpump when replacing the time belt. Does anybody know if this is true?

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      04-18-2012 07:53 PM #9
      Yeah definitely replace the water pump.

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      04-18-2012 10:06 PM #10
      Yea replace the water pump and try getting a metal water pump, I think the oem ones are plastic, you can get a whole kit online
      ???

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      04-18-2012 10:41 PM #11
      You might rethink the transmission fluid change. Most posts on all the sites recommend changing tranny fluid and filter at 40k miles. the dealers in the Dallas area all told me it's "lifetime" but I'm changing mine at 43k as a precaution.

      The 6-speed trans is not bullet-proof, so you might have them do the fluid change, too.

      I imaging others will want to weigh in on this . . .

    12. 04-19-2012 12:11 AM #12
      Yeah I actually asked about the transmission oil today, but the guy at Metro VW told me it was not neccessary. What is cool is that they are giving me a loaner for this service. At 80K! Pretty cool. I have never had a problem with Metro VW in Irving.

      What is weird is that I thought he said that they were going to change the water pump as part of this services, but I must have misunderstood. That would be too good to be true.

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      04-19-2012 12:12 AM #13
      How much did they quote you for all this?

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      04-19-2012 12:14 AM #14
      Everything I have seen in the manual says 120k for timing belt.


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      04-19-2012 12:23 PM #15
      From what I hear with the tranny fluid is it started out as a never needed service and they changed that to service at every 80k (filter and fluid change)

      With the timing belt I wouldn't wait to 120k I did mine at 80k, just a peace of mind I guess
      ???

    16. 04-19-2012 03:57 PM #16
      They said it would $880 for my timing belt service alone. i doubt that includes a water pump, right?

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      04-19-2012 05:04 PM #17
      I just posted this on PW, hope to share with you

      Little back ground for my car:
      2008 Passat wagon 2.0T Auto, bought used 5 months ago at 98000km mileage, all stock.
      Bring the car(105k km mileage) to my friendly indy for timing belt change, transmission fluid and filter change, cam follower change.(paid CAD$1100,very good deal I would say)
      While he ordering the parts, he said VW parts department not recommend change the trans fluid and cam follower. Which he told me today that the old trans fluid is black in colour and he try hard to get all fluid out for me(7 liters), the cam follower already have no top. lucky, he said no harm has done to the pump and cam. check the picture, I will have my next cam follower at 4-50000km


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      04-19-2012 05:07 PM #18
      Quote Originally Posted by joakim6945 View Post
      Hey guys,

      My dealer talked me out of doing all the flushes for my 80K and concentrating more on changing the timing belt. I have a 2006 FSI 2.0t.

      Do you guys agree with that? I will just do oil and filte change and then the whole timingbelt change (and hopefulle swap out the cam follower).

      Too early? Thoughts?
      Definitely would do the belt change at 80K. I had a timing belt go bad on a different car and had to pay the price. 80K is a good point.
      Last edited by vw_nc_dude; 04-19-2012 at 05:14 PM.

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      04-19-2012 05:09 PM #19
      Quote Originally Posted by Ronstanley View Post
      You might rethink the transmission fluid change. Most posts on all the sites recommend changing tranny fluid and filter at 40k miles. the dealers in the Dallas area all told me it's "lifetime" but I'm changing mine at 43k as a precaution.

      The 6-speed trans is not bullet-proof, so you might have them do the fluid change, too.

      I imaging others will want to weigh in on this . . .
      Isn't the 40K tranny service recommended for DSG only? Did not hear before that we need it for our Aisin 6-speed tranny.

    20. 04-19-2012 05:56 PM #20
      Any thoughts about how much a new water pump usually runs?

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      04-19-2012 05:59 PM #21
      I picked up my "metal impeler" water pump on ecs for abour $65 shipped. FCPeuro.com has good pricing as well.
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      04-19-2012 06:10 PM #22
      Quote Originally Posted by vw_nc_dude View Post
      Isn't the 40K tranny service recommended for DSG only? Did not hear before that we need it for our Aisin 6-speed tranny.
      This was the older process from VW but they've updated it to now say the tiptronic needs servicing at 40k / 80k / etc
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      04-19-2012 06:19 PM #23
      Quote Originally Posted by coderedcomputing View Post
      This was the older process from VW but they've updated it to now say the tiptronic needs servicing at 40k / 80k / etc
      Hmm, I did my 40K service at the VW dealer last month and they did not mention this

      Is this something very recent? Do you have a link or pointer to this updated service schedule?

    24. 04-19-2012 06:31 PM #24
      yeah, I asked my dealer this too yesterday and he was like "nope, there is lifetime oil in these transmissions. Nothing needs to be done".

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      04-19-2012 08:14 PM #25
      Quote Originally Posted by joakim6945 View Post
      They said it would $880 for my timing belt service alone. i doubt that includes a water pump, right?
      A timing belt job should include the water pump, thermostat and some other accessories. Check out the full timing belt kit at ECS tuning.

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      04-19-2012 11:20 PM #26
      The new belts a lot stronger then old ****ty ones on the 1.8t. Besides being wider. I recall they are made with kevlar too.

    27. 04-20-2012 10:30 AM #27
      But still they should be swapped at 80K right? or around there? I'm glad to get it done. I'm skipping everything else on the 80K besides oil/filter and air filter. is ther anything that I really NEED to do right now?

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      04-20-2012 11:39 AM #28
      Years ago I went too long (still within spec, but apparently too long) to change the belt on my Audi. Valves and pistons collided in an unhappy way. Audi helped with 1/2 the bill, but it was a lengthy repair.

      You know you have to do the belt soon anyway, so why wait? My two cents....

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      04-20-2012 12:00 PM #29
      Yes, I would definitely change it at 80K to be on the safe side.

    30. 04-20-2012 11:58 PM #30
      Haven't tried on mine yet, but is it possible to visually check the condition of the belt?

    31. 04-25-2012 01:01 PM #31
      So my B6 is at the dealer for the timing belt, new water pump, oil and filter change, cam follower inspection(and hopefully replacement).

      They gave me a base model 2012 Jetta 2.0 as a loaner. Even though this car is 6 years newer than my car, it feels so old and bad. No cruise control, nothing. The 2.0 really struggles keeping up with Dallas traffic. Hoping to get my car back today.

      My point is: I did not know there were cars made in 2012 withotu cruise control!

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      04-25-2012 01:22 PM #32
      Quote Originally Posted by joakim6945 View Post
      So my B6 is at the dealer for the timing belt, new water pump, oil and filter change, cam follower inspection(and hopefully replacement).

      They gave me a base model 2012 Jetta 2.0 as a loaner. Even though this car is 6 years newer than my car, it feels so old and bad. No cruise control, nothing. The 2.0 really struggles keeping up with Dallas traffic. Hoping to get my car back today.

      My point is: I did not know there were cars made in 2012 withotu cruise control!
      The base model Jetta is pretty much old technology including the engine they are using. Also not as solid as the outgoing Jetta which had much better built quality. It pushes the price point pretty low to make it appealing. Nothing compared to your Passat with the 2.0 turbo charged engine.

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      04-25-2012 01:37 PM #33
      I changed my cam follower as a preventive measure. $54 part, took about 30 minutes to change. Next time it will take about 15 minutes since I know exactly what tools to have handy.

      The original (44k miles) cam follower looked OK, as did the cam lobe I could view.

      VW dealer checked my VIN and said mine was not prone to failure, but for $54 I did it anyway.

      Do others agree?

    34. 04-26-2012 09:53 AM #34
      Quote Originally Posted by Ronstanley View Post
      I changed my cam follower as a preventive measure. $54 part, took about 30 minutes to change. Next time it will take about 15 minutes since I know exactly what tools to have handy.

      The original (44k miles) cam follower looked OK, as did the cam lobe I could view.

      VW dealer checked my VIN and said mine was not prone to failure, but for $54 I did it anyway.

      Do others agree?
      I wasn't aware they could check to see if they were prone to failure or not. Any pictures of the follower you removed? I'm in favor of changing anyways for as inexpensive as it is. I'm sure it has eased your mind a bit.

    35. 04-27-2012 12:32 PM #35
      Ok So I picked up the car yesterday. This is what I had done:

      New Timing Belt and other belts
      New Water Pump
      New Tensioner
      PVC valve recall
      Oil change, filter
      Air filter
      Mounted new tires (brought tires to dealer)
      Alignment

      Final cost: $1,034

      Good deal?

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