I know someone has pulled an FSI in here
So who out here has pulled their/an FSI engine and either rebuilt it or put a new/used one back in?
I'm not talking about switching engine codes or even transmissions, just a straight engine swap.
Long story short buddy blew his engine 2 hours after picking it up, not his fault. It was pure negligence on previous owner. Anyways, it seems the cheapest option is to get a used engine and do the swap.
Extent of damage we can see from pulling valve cover:
Hydraulic cam tensioner exploded and chain has no tension
Intake camshaft has a blown out bearing
How many valves are bent is the question
Timing belt is flappy loose
Most likely going to find metal shavings in the oil pan
So obviously a rebuild would be far more expensive because we need a new head, block needs minimum honed maybe bored and sleeved... Need all new gaskets, possibly new rods and pistons. New oil pump and pick up tube... and probably more I'm forgetting.
Anyways main question:
What would be the level of difficulty of swapping motors?
Would most likely have a Bentley manual and a VW tech helping when necessary, but the real issue is the means to the end.
Most likely going to be using jacks, stands and ramps. The tech friend says extremely difficult without a 4-point lift and the adapter plate to drop the motor out from the bottom with the trans still attached... Improbable or just a real **** sucker to do?
Pull the front clip off as described in the Apr diy.
remove shift linkages
disconnect coolant lines
disconnect fuel and evap lines
remove turbo discharge
remove noise pipe
remove pen mount
remove upper mounts
Ive pulled motors at junk yards with minimal tools and still took no more then 90 mins with everything attached. Just make sure you disconect everything before you try to slide it out. It sucks to have to remove things while the engine is half out. Good luck on the fix
Oh, and I guess we will have a block/head various engine parts for sale for cheaps, although most of it will probably be toast...
not quite, but I think I'm going to use this opportunity to make a very in depth engine pull/install DIY for the FSI.
Everything is going to be labeled before we take the engine out, and everything is going to be labeled on the other engine as well...
And when we are tearing the old engine apart I'll send you pictures of the extent of the damage; it's pretty bad...
Hydraulic cam tensioner grenaded and all that due to oil pressure loss, the head definitely needs rebuilt if it can be saved, and we haven't looked at the block or the pistons yet, but I will definitely let you know what's going on when we do it.
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I pulled mine and rebuilt the bottom end when I put on the big turbo. http://forums.vwvortex.com/showthrea...GTX3071r-build
Instead of a new engine, pull the cylinder head off and look at the cylinder walls. If they're ok - and they probably will be, replace only the head and timing belt system. Do NOT hone the cylinders - will cause more problems than its worth. Just clean off the tops of the pistons. Should be much less time and probably less money than dealing with an unknown junkyard engine.
Ok, so are you saying we should buy a new head from VW? That's $1850 (with my employee discount) when we can get an engine with about 25k for $2500... seeing as how there's 140k on the bottom end already...
Will have pics up when we get the car back to his place. Hopefully by this weekend.