I'm interested in more info. Like projected length of the strut, length of the threaded portion, and distance between top bag plate to the top of the camber plate.
We thought it was about time we made a thread dedicated to this idea that we're kicking around. When we were out at AirLift in March, we discussed the idea of having them produce a Mk5/6 Slam XL kit very similar to their new Subaru GD/GDF kit. These 'special production' units would include:
• BC Racing Fully Threaded Bodies
• Dampening Adjustment
• Camber Plates
The only concern/drawback/hangup is that these have the possibility of not 'laying out'. In our minds, it's really a no-brainer. We'd gladly trade laying out for the ability to adjust camber and dampening. Not to mention have a fully threaded coilover body. Bear in mind, this does not mean that they won't go extremely low, it just means you might not be able to put your subframe on the ground. Alas, we're not here to please ourselves or sell what we really like, we're here to support the community and the enthusiast market. We're looking for input, suggestions, insight, feedback, etc. Please also note that this isn't a definite, this is merely a feeler to gauge interest.
I dont know man... after rocking the mason tech's with the relocated bearing and threaded coilover body, i dont think its really worth it. the camber plates are an awesome idea that many have wanted for a long time, but honestly, i havent TOUCHED the height of the coils (lowest setting) since i bought them in '08 and i doubt many will. Not to mention, that locking ring is one more thing that takes away a couple of options as far as wheels/offsets go. if i were to change the height of my struts, i cant rock certain wheels/offsets and have to figure out stupid combos in order to get everything to work (if im running anything EXCEPT spun all the way down)... mine do have dampening adjustment which i LOVE, so thats also a nice thing to throw in...
so, yeah man, do it all... just dont even bother with the coil fab. just build a solid strut with the other 2 features.... just speaking from experience...
The threaded Mason Tech struts were built off of an off-the-shelf coilover. This is why they had to be threaded all the way down. The new Air Lift struts are designed specifically to be paired with air springs (unlike the old threaded Mason Techs).
Not that I'd be interested (you know why) but what about Just XL's with camber plates? Could that not work? Don't get me wrong having them built around BC's and threaded bodies and dampening adjustment is cool and all, but Air-rex already kind of makes that. What about a fixed strut dampening adjustible, and camber plates?
Edit: Apparently I suck at reading. I have objections to threaded bodies for the same reasons. I've had BOC, and I've had the fully thread MT's too (without bearing relocate) and its always a compromise between wheel fitment and having the bag low enough to nearly lay out. Besides, as we know having the bag lower does not necessarily mean you go lower. You could put the bag higher in the total length of the strut with a bag that compresses more and achieve the same thing, and never fight with wheel fitment. I may be giving away too many secrets. I'll be quiet now.
Last edited by bgsapc; 04-20-2012 at 05:03 PM.
I just think that fully threaded bodies are always a compromise between low and wheel clearance. Some one who was interested in a high performance track ready big turbo GTI might find wide wheels/tires difficult to fit and still air out even sort of low.
What kind of bag are you guys thinking of running on the struts?
A) The handling characteristics / ride quality that you desire
B) The height that you desire
Without a way of changing the overall strut length independently of air spring pressure, you can only choose A or B. The downside is, you might find that the perfect 'sweet spot' pressure that you would ideally like to align your car to doesn't give you the look (fitment, ride height etc.) that you want.
With a threaded body, you get to choose both A and B. You first determine the handling characteristics and ride quality that you want, write down the air spring pressures and then move on to step B, setting the desired strut height which will allow you to achieve the look that you want.
At the end of the process you return to your previously determined ride pressures and dial in the dampening settings to your liking.
Last edited by Will@BagRiders; 04-23-2012 at 11:09 AM.
This is getting really dialed in, and I like it. But for me, I'm happy with the XL's I have (they ride great at 40 psi). Like mentioned by others, the camber and dampening is the most intriguing part to me.
If I didn’t just buy some XL's, or I really want to track my car these would be 1st choice. Provided the price is in the same ball park.
Thank you to everyone who took time to respond and leave feedback! These type of things do not go unnoticed. We're keeping a running list of questions as well as interested parties for this special project. Hopefully, we can convince AirLift to actually put these into production in the near future!
I could be down for these as well...I am already rocking the airlift performance front struts and the dampening is pretty key.
I would be interested
Two questions...how much dampening adjustment and would there still be sway bar mounts?
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Andrew have you ever thought about just selling AirRex? I can connect you with Forjworks if interested. What you're looking to do sounds exactly like AirRex. I'm the first MKVI on them and love them now that they're laying frame. I currently run on the softest setting because it's my daily commuter/family car. But did run 3 up front and 2 in the back. It was pretty stiff. The front camber is great as well I believe I'm at -3.5. Honestly was the thing that sold me.
Lmk I'd be glad to set you guys up.
I'll get some pics of how they sit tucking 17x9 et25 up front.