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    Thread: Went for .22 Ammo, Bought .243 Rifle. Gonna Get Those Darn'd Groundhogs!

    1. 04-23-2012 03:10 PM #26
      I love 17hmr. great round. super flat shooting and very accurate within its intended range. the p-dogs I've gotten with it pretty much explode. accurate enough for paint balls at 100 yards. its a a whole different thing from .22lr, and past 100 yards it out does the 22mag.

      one of the good things about it, its very frangible, so misses and pass threw's don't have nearly as much chance of a dangerous ricochet.

      don't have any experiance with the .243. seems like a pretty good round.. though maybe a bit of over kill for rodents

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      05-02-2012 07:08 PM #27
      Bump up to see if you bagged one of the groundhogs yet?

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      05-03-2012 10:14 PM #28
      Quote Originally Posted by dj age one View Post
      I love 17hmr. great round. super flat shooting and very accurate within its intended range. the p-dogs I've gotten with it pretty much explode. accurate enough for paint balls at 100 yards. its a a whole different thing from .22lr, and past 100 yards it out does the 22mag.

      one of the good things about it, its very frangible, so misses and pass threw's don't have nearly as much chance of a dangerous ricochet.

      don't have any experiance with the .243. seems like a pretty good round.. though maybe a bit of over kill for rodents
      I too have a .17hmr savage with a 3-9x. i can hit a nickel at 100 yards provided there is little wind. past a 10-20 mph crosswind and you have to start getting creative. on a still day i was punching holes in an index card at past 150 yards...so flat shooting...

      .243 is a great rifle. good pick-up. you could probably hunt larger game like coyote, white tail, or feral pig.
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      05-03-2012 10:59 PM #29
      Quote Originally Posted by Obin Robinson View Post
      Bump up to see if you bagged one of the groundhogs yet?

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      Thanks for the bump Obin

      I've actually not had ANY luck at all

      I've been hunting them almost every late afternoon/evening now. I do see them but they're either not in a position where I can make a clear or safe shot, or they're moving, or they're just not around/out. I took one pot shot at one that was trundling along but missed it by about 3 feet

      I wonder if they're bored of laughing at me yet
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      05-03-2012 11:09 PM #30
      Quote Originally Posted by emmettlodge View Post
      Thanks for the bump Obin

      I've actually not had ANY luck at all

      I've been hunting them almost every late afternoon/evening now. I do see them but they're either not in a position where I can make a clear or safe shot, or they're moving, or they're just not around/out. I took one pot shot at one that was trundling along but missed it by about 3 feet

      I wonder if they're bored of laughing at me yet


      Once they get bored they will slow down thinking you won't get 'em.

      Then you turn them inside out!

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      05-03-2012 11:12 PM #31
      Quote Originally Posted by compy222 View Post
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      .243 is a great rifle. good pick-up. you could probably hunt larger game like coyote, white tail, or feral pig.
      No probably about it! .243 will take any of those just fine. However, keyword too feral is PIG, not HOG. HOGS can be a whole 'nother ball game.

      On a side note I dig the paint job. I really have been considering one of these entry level rifles to paint and use as a basic varmint/predator rifle. Although, that's what I built the AR for, what's another rifle in the safe??


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      05-04-2012 10:27 AM #32
      i have a funny feeling that .243 will evaporate a small ground hog...probably roughly the same effect .17hmr has on squirrels...
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      05-04-2012 11:26 AM #33
      Quote Originally Posted by compy222 View Post
      i have a funny feeling that .243 will evaporate a small ground hog...probably roughly the same effect .17hmr has on squirrels...
      Whenever I do eventually hit one of these suckers, I'm expecting a substantial red mist
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      05-04-2012 01:59 PM #34
      Quote Originally Posted by HookedOn16v View Post
      No probably about it! .243 will take any of those just fine. However, keyword too feral is PIG, not HOG. HOGS can be a whole 'nother ball game.
      Lol, wut? Do you mean feral hogs/pigs and wild boar/pig? Either way, the .243 is fine for both with proper shot placement...


      OP, have any pics of the groups you shot? I am interested how those "entry level" Remmy's shoot.
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      05-04-2012 02:36 PM #35
      Quote Originally Posted by LinkATX View Post
      Lol, wut? Do you mean feral hogs/pigs and wild boar/pig? Either way, the .243 is fine for both with proper shot placement...

      Yeah, however you want to phrase it.

      Sure shot placement is key with anything, but there's nothing wrong packing a little bit bigger round for a bit bigger animal!
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      05-04-2012 04:52 PM #36
      Quote Originally Posted by LinkATX View Post
      OP, have any pics of the groups you shot? I am interested how those "entry level" Remmy's shoot.
      I don't, but when I zero'd the scope in at 100 yrds I was getting 6"-8" groups in prone position with the rifle supported but no bipod or such.

      I'm not a good enough shot to do better than that so you probably shouldn't compare my groups to what could be expected of the rifle in the hands of an experienced marksman.
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    12. 05-04-2012 06:50 PM #37
      6-8"!!

      how many shots?

      you might want to get that thing on a solid rest and re-zero it, lay down some groups before you try and do any more hunting. you could be getting misses where you should have a solid it.

      FWIW. I found the tool bags they sell from home depot with the stiff sides work pretty well as a good rest when shooting prone.. cheap and also carry shootin stuff (mags, ammo, eyes and ears) well.

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      05-04-2012 07:28 PM #38
      Quote Originally Posted by dj age one View Post
      6-8"!!

      how many shots?

      you might want to get that thing on a solid rest and re-zero it, lay down some groups before you try and do any more hunting. you could be getting misses where you should have a solid it.

      FWIW. I found the tool bags they sell from home depot with the stiff sides work pretty well as a good rest when shooting prone.. cheap and also carry shootin stuff (mags, ammo, eyes and ears) well.
      It was resting on a cinder block. It was pretty sturdy. I shot 20 shots, which was all the ammo I had. I was probably just flinch a lot. It's a loud rifle with a noticeable recoil, I'm not really used to it. I only ever shot .22's.
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    14. 05-04-2012 10:14 PM #39
      ahh, 20 shot group.

      you should probably run some 5 shot groups threw, and allow the barrel to cool in between.

      your probably going to be making mostly cold bore shots, so your going to want it zero and predictable with a cold bore.

      as the barrel heats up the POI is going to change. sometimes they walk up, some times over to one side or the other. it effects heavy barrels less then light barrels but its still something to consider.

      I would shoot a 5 round group, then switch back to the 22 for a while, then switch back so you can work out the flinch and allow the rifle to cool.

      a humane shot requires enough gun (your covered ) and good shot placement.. that rifle should be capable of 2-3" at the MOST.

      you might want to consider some barnes varmint grenades, they fragment pretty well and should mostly eliminate ricochets (might be a problem in the places your shooting) it will turn the groundhogs into mist.

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      05-05-2012 01:08 PM #40
      Pretty much everything said above. Get some sand bags from Home Depot or where ever, I set up at the range to where the rifle is in place on target without being touched. With groups that big, I am going to guess that you were probably resting the barrel on that cinder block and not the forend of the stock. If this is the case, that will send rounds all over the place. The only thing I can say about flinching is that you should line up your crosshairs and lean on the trigger until the rifle discharges. It should basically be a surprise when the rifle actually fires.
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      05-12-2012 06:30 PM #41
      So I went out and shot some this afternoon. I set the rifle stock on a tightly rolled up blanket, and relaxed a lot. Which helped. My groups improved some.

      Going to buy a bipod at some point.

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      05-12-2012 06:41 PM #42
      Quote Originally Posted by emmettlodge View Post
      Going to buy a bipod at some point.
      Practice will make perfect. If you want a top quality bipod then get this one:

      http://www.amazon.com/Harris-Enginee.../dp/B000PWDEWY

      I have used that same bipod for varmint hunting and it was nice and stable. I have the same bipod on my Remington 700 PSS. It is not much more than the imitations but it is a bit more durable. You will never need to replace it.

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    18. 05-12-2012 10:42 PM #43
      If you'd like to improve your rifle marksmanship, might I suggest taking a little bit of time every so often to read this blog, oldest posts to newest: http://artoftherifle.blogspot.com/

      Really a great resource and will be time well spent.

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      05-13-2012 11:31 AM #44
      Quote Originally Posted by gotta_jet View Post
      If you'd like to improve your rifle marksmanship, might I suggest taking a little bit of time every so often to read this blog, oldest posts to newest: http://artoftherifle.blogspot.com/

      Really a great resource and will be time well spent.
      Wow, I just read a whole bunch of his posts. They're fantastic.

      He gets into a bunch of target precision I'm never going to worry about. But I found things like how best to work the bolt while keeping on target really helpful
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