Tell me about UR Quattros!

[nismo4life]

Watching the Wheeler Dealers episode of the 86 UR. What are these cars like to drive, own, and work on? Awful from a maint. standpoint?

God that 5 cylinder sounds beautiful.

And per TCL rules;

[Powderkeg]

I'll chime in about the high power versions. Over 700 horse.

But of course you are asking about the street items

yes... can be expensive to maintain.

[Snake Hips]

As far as working on them goes, they're simple machines. Most issues stem from parts availability rather than labor difficulty, but there's so much cult following that the aftermarket provides replacements for almost everything, and usually they're improved over the OEM.

Mine doesn't qualify as an UrQuattro, but it's got the Torsen and 5-cylinder. 203,000 miles and the only maintenance in the past 20,000 was $400 coil pack improvements and $400 in shocks, besides oil changes.

A 200TQ or Coupe would be awesome, but there aren't many around that haven't used the way they were designed.

[nismo4life]

I'll chime in about the high power versions. Over 700 horse.

But of course you are asking about the street items

yes... can be expensive to maintain.

Walter Rohl is supposedly going to be running Pikes Peak this year with his Quattro S1

[Chileno]

Walter Rohl is supposedly going to be running Pikes Peak this year with his Quattro S1

[nismo4life]

Yup.

http://www.audiusanews.com/newsrelea...ak-again&mid=1

[izzo]

[Son]

Walter Rohl is supposedly going to be running Pikes Peak this year with his Quattro S1

[flat6guy]

I must report this post to moderators due to pornographic content

[The Holy Molar]

Yup.

http://www.audiusanews.com/newsrelea...ak-again&mid=1

And I"ll be there!

[71DubBugBug]

[Hybrid_Hatch]

my friend has a grey market 81 ur-quattro, his previous engine made 625 awhp, his new stroker engine should make plenty more. they are absolutely amazing machines and a ton of fun, they are easy to work on, but some suffer from serious rust issues depending on where they spent their lives. The other major issue to be concerned about is NLA parts, (no longer available), many crucial parts are no longer available, ball joints, windshields, ect. they do come into stock on occasion and there are after market solutions or alternative oem solutions for most things but as a general rule it isn't a car you could just go down to the dealer and order whatever part that you need.

[Diamond Dave]

Just to be clear, to this point, only 3 ur-Quattro pictures have been posted. The rest are Sport Quattros worth between 3x and 10x the value of a ur-Quattro.

[nismo4life]

Just to be clear, to this point, only 3 ur-Quattro pictures have been posted. The rest are Sport Quattros worth between 3x and 10x the value of a ur-Quattro.

I was under the impression that Sport Quattros we're only the short wheelbase models.

And I"ll be there!

Acquire a terminal illness. On a serious note though, take videos...in HD!

[Tim@VMG]

I was under the impression that Sport Quattros we're only the short wheelbase models.

There were a LOT of changes carried out to the original quattro to turn it in to the Sport. Shortening the wheelbase was one. They also as a result had to use different doors. They changed the rake of the windshield. The body is a mix of steel and carbon-kevlar, etc etc, not to mention the different engine and other bits as well.

And he's right - I have not, that I can recall, seen a Sport quattro come up for auction that didn't fetch at least six figures in US$.

They only made just over 200 of them. (The actual number is something that's a subject of debate among Audi-heads.)

-Tim

[Harv]

There were a LOT of changes carried out to the original quattro to turn it in to the Sport. Shortening the wheelbase was one. They also as a result had to use different doors. They changed the rake of the windshield. The body is a mix of steel and carbon-kevlar, etc etc, not to mention the different engine and other bits as well.

And he's right - I have not, that I can recall, seen a Sport quattro come up for auction that didn't fetch at least six figures in US$.

They only made just over 200 of them. (The actual number is something that's a subject of debate among Audi-heads.)

-Tim

2nd.

Sport Quattros weren't even offered in the US. And the ones that are here are worth well over $100,000. With only 200ish them made originally they are getting the point where it's going to be a museum car.

[Hybrid_Hatch]

the 600+ awhp one is on the left.

[Diamond Dave]

I was under the impression that Sport Quattros we're only the short wheelbase models.

You're close; the Sport Quattros were synonomous with the short wheelbase. But beyond that, since it was a homoglated version they only needed to hit 200 road cars to get all the Kevlar goodies (fenders, hood, and I think the roof).

Without getting into the obvious performance difference between the Sport and the stadnard ur-Quattro (the only Audis that use the captial Q, BTW), the body dimensions are gloriously perfect.

To make a Sport Quattro from a ur-Quattro, as SilverSLC noted, you'd need to start with sectioning the body just after the B-pillar and then find Sport Quattro side glass, use the doors, windshield, and A-pillar from a 4000 sedan. For some reason, I remember there's also something that needs to be done with the rear. There have been more than a handful of "conversions" that only sectioned the body and they really look horrible without flattening the windshield. Those should be set on fire IMO.



There are maybe a dozen Sport Quattros in the US. I've actually seen one here in Portland getting a checkup at Matrix Engineering. Quite a staggering presence.

[Tim@VMG]

You're close; the Sport Quattros were synonomous with the short wheelbase. But beyond that, since it was a homoglated version they only needed to hit 200 road cars to get all the Kevlar goodies (fenders, hood, and I think the roof).

Only part of the roof. The rear section is steel, and you can actually see the seam where the two are joined. There are a lot of places on the sports where you can see that they're handbuilt, "special" cars. In my "other" life I write and help out on Fourtitude.com, and I was there for the photoshoot and putting together this article, and spent some time riding in and being around the one featured there. I wasn't able to drive it due to insurance reasons, but it's an awesome, awesome car.

To make a Sport Quattro from a ur-Quattro, as SilverSLC noted, you'd need to start with sectioning the body just after the B-pillar and then find Sport Quattro side glass, use the doors, windshield, and A-pillar from a 4000 sedan. For some reason, I remember there's also something that needs to be done with the rear.

Aside from the huge box flares, I also think there are other changes back there, but I'd have to go look them up at home to be sure.

There have been more than a handful of "conversions" that only sectioned the body and they really look horrible without flattening the windshield. Those should be set on fire IMO.

The change in windshield rake was actually at the request of the rally drivers, who found that the stock one caught too much glare, particularly from the flashes of photographers and such, and killed visibility for them, so it got changed.

-Tim

[audiphile]

Link to Wheeler Dealers episode?

[case m]

Watching the Wheeler Dealers episode of the 86 UR. What are these cars like to drive, own, and work on? Awful from a maint. standpoint?

God that 5 cylinder sounds beautiful.

To answer the OP's questions:
To drive, they are nose heavy and slow in stock form. ~160hp stock. Chipped ecu and stiffer wastegate spring gets you to ~225hp. Anything more than that you're looking at efi + big turbo or 20vt swap.
To own, I can't really say since all I've had are the 4 door version, the 4000 quattro. It's just like owning any other 30 year old fuel injected turbo German car, sometimes awesome, sometimes a nightmare.
To work on, piece of cake, to me anyways.
Maintenance, LOTS of parts are no longer available and a complete pain to source. Rust is an issue unless you're lucky enough to find one that isn't rusty.
Yes, the sound of a 5cyl > any other engine.

Want an awesome 80s car with box flares? Just buy an e30 m3. And this is coming from a long time Audi enthusiast.

[NotoriousWithaG]

my good friend's URQ, I love beating the hell out of this thing, its so much fun

[nismo4life]

Want an awesome 80s car with box flares? Just buy an e30 m3. And this is coming from a long time Audi enthusiast.

Never again. If its not from Stuttgart, I'm not buying it . I'm done with German cars otherwise, just always loved the UR Quattros.

[Sepp]

I've had the immense honor/pleasure of owning one for the past 11 years.
Incredible cars despite the N.American versions being less peppy than the European siblings.
-this is easily remedied.

The later models (84/85) are much easier to find parts for, as they have a different list of chassis parts than the earlier cars.
The wiring on the earlier cars also had VW Rabbit fuse boxes...which cause some reliability issues.

The engine, and drivetrain are very stout and put up with quite a bit of abuse.

The leading causes for the death of these cars is the aforementioned rot issues, and owner neglect.
The '85 models are partially galvinised, which has cut down on the rust issues quite a bit.

Driving a well sorted car is an incredible experience that one will never forget. The sound of the engine, the slight turbo lag followed by an intoxicating wave of power....and the incredible grip.

This car has an incredibly tight-kit community...so parts may be a challenge on occasion to find...but help is always avail to find said parts.


The E30M3 is an ENTIRELY different beast.....even the fender flares are different!!!