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    1. Member two.twoliter's Avatar
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      04-23-2012 02:39 AM #26
      Quote Originally Posted by jpalmer;77023111I

      I've got about 5,000 miles under my belt with my 2010 VW Jetta 2.5. It's been great so far. I was a bit skeptical about the DSG at first, but have grown to like it. .
      I believe the 2.5s had a regular 6 speed automatic, not DSG like on 2.0t and TDIs.
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      04-23-2012 05:13 AM #28
      Quote Originally Posted by JusDub View Post
      Awesome guys. Looks like I can't go wrong with either one.
      You probably can't, but the Audi is going to be more refined and handle better. I have an '05 Ultrasport wagon that I brought to Germany. Will drive it 'til it dies.

      Have had a few issues (trunk latch, coolant plug, steering rack), but otherwise it has been fine. The car is a very refined and balanced package. I think you just need to consider whether the extra refinement and improved driving experience of the Audi are important to you or not.
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      04-23-2012 08:28 AM #29
      Quote Originally Posted by two.twoliter View Post
      I believe the 2.5s had a regular 6 speed automatic, not DSG like on 2.0t and TDIs.
      Yep.
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      04-23-2012 09:00 AM #30
      Quote Originally Posted by JusDub View Post
      Tbis is where my dilemma lies. I like the mk5 exterior and understand that engine is reliable. BUT I hear the 2.5 is slow as hell. I mean not that I speed wherever I go but if I need to I would like to have some "kick" behind it.
      Try driving one before you fall for the hype. The 2.5 is quite peppy in every day driving. It does not feel as slow as it's 7.7 second run to 60 seems (manual trans). Heck, the B6 1.8T does it SLOWER (in stock form) in 7.8! So, either way, you aren't getting a scorcher.

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      04-23-2012 09:19 AM #31
      I would say 2.5 over vr6 over 1.8t from the list of things you want. Get an 08 or newer though.

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      04-23-2012 02:05 PM #32
      i just went from a b6 s4 6-speed to a mk6 2.5l jetta.

      no regrets. if maintenance is a financial concern at all, go with the more simple jetta.
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      No. 50k miles is 80km.

      You don't seem to understand the concept of 'k'. It means thousand so its 50k and 80k not 8000k

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      04-23-2012 02:35 PM #33
      Quote Originally Posted by StormChaser View Post
      Try driving one before you fall for the hype. The 2.5 is quite peppy in every day driving. It does not feel as slow as it's 7.7 second run to 60 seems (manual trans). Heck, the B6 1.8T does it SLOWER (in stock form) in 7.8! So, either way, you aren't getting a scorcher.
      This.

      Is the 2.5 "fast?" No. Is it "slow as hell?" Absolutely not. The '08+, 170hp variant is actually surprisingly punchy with the automatic, and has plenty of torque for city or highway driving. It's far more usable (IMO) than some of the 150-170hp 4-cylinders that typically have far less available torque. The engine is also a relaxed tank of a power plant (less than 9:1 compression I believe) so it should be rock solid on reliability.

      Like I just told a co-worker (who went on to buy a new Golf last week)... I auto-x with my 2.5. Mine is the 150hp variant with zero engine mods, and it does JUST fine. If you can auto-x with it, you can handle 99% of daily driving with it.
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      04-23-2012 02:44 PM #34
      I actually was pretty serious about an '06 B7 A4 S-line with 65k miles, but ended up with an '08 Jetta SE 2.5 that had 41k miles when we bought it last summer. The A4 is a step up in class, if not size, a more sophisticated car all-around, but I'd wager than upkeep and repairs on a 2.5 mkV Jetta will be much lower.

      As far as the 2.5 itself - I came from a 2.8 12v VR6 in a mkIII and while it's not quite as snappy nor does it sound as sexy, I've grown to like it. It has plenty of low-end torks which makes for snappy around-town driving, and it opens up pretty decently at high RPMs as well as, if not better than, the VR6.
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      04-23-2012 02:56 PM #35
      Coming from an owner ... B6 A4 ... get the 1.8t.

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      04-23-2012 02:57 PM #36
      Posted this a little while back ... seems like it's pretty a propos for this thread ...

      Quote Originally Posted by seadoo2006

      I'll be frank on a couple things:

      1. I drive an ass-crap number of miles (~40k/year)
      2. My B6 has some sort of maintenance issue about once a month
      3. It's a 1.8t, with a Unitronic Stage 1+ tune, but it's still crappy on gas mileage
      4. I bought it with 98,000 miles, so my maintenance costs have been slightly higher than most.



      That being said, I love the car, no scratch that, I adore this car. I love the ride, I love the way it drives, I love quattro in the winter, and I love the looks.


      So, a few things I dislike about the car:

      1. It's a boat ... it feels every bit of its ~3600 some pounds
      2. The 5-speed has pretty short gears ... I'm around 3800rpm at 75mph
      3. My car has the infamous seat heater fire problem (Audi of America graciously replaced everything for FREE at 108,000 miles and I was the 3rd owner)
      4. The OEM HIDs are pricey to replace ... both my ballasts are starting to go and even if you get Chrysler ballasts and bulbs (same product), they are around $200/headlight
      5. The Climatronic tends to have issues ... Mine acts up only when both passenger and driver are set to high. It reverses and sends full heat A/C to both vents in an alternating pattern
      6. The non-Bose system is good for Audio (what I have), but the Bose system is typical Bose (no highs, no lows, it must be Bose)
      7. Gas mileage ... I had envisioned getting better from this car, but the combination of an underpowered motor for the car and quattro makes your averages suck




      Now, for what I love about this car:

      1. quattro ... I can't say enough about it. If you've never owned an AWD car, this system is just superb. In conjuction with the ESP, this car is nearly impossible to put sideways unintentionally ... like, if the system even starts to see your ass-end swing out, it automatically straightens itself out
      2. Boost ... well, the stock k03s might be an underpowered turd of a turbo, but throw a Stage 1+ tune at it to 18psi and the car wakes up ... sounds like a bat out of hell at full boost (even if you aren't going very quickly)
      3. RNS-E ... well, if you splurge like I did and installed an OEM Audi RNS-E, you get the benefits of the integrated cluster with Navigation. The early 2002s with Navi came with the color FIS, but all the rest of them came with the red FIS which requires a quick off/on cycle of the RNS to get it to appear. This is extremely awesome for directions to have it in the cluster.
      4. 2002 Cold Weather Package - the 2002s, as an introductory year, came with rear heated seats. These are more of a novelty than anything else, but it was cool showing that off to the girlfriend's parents when I drove them around for the first time.
      5. 2002 Sport Package - again, the MY2002s came with the lowest OEM suspension of any Audi ... look at the pictures of my car ... it sits at about 1-1.5 finger gap around on the stock springs and shocks




      So, as for the costs of ownership, well, as I said, I drive a crap ton of miles. Here's a quick breakdown of my costs since buying this car last May:


      It's pricey, but remember, most of those costs are fuel and mods. The actual repairs aren't too terribly expensive. My car is repaired at an independent shop @ $60/hour, so compare your own local labor to that if you need a more apples-to-apples comparison.

      Here is my gas mileage over the last 10 months, approximately 32,000 miles of driving (93oct solely):


      In the end, I love this car, even if it does cost me a bit of money. Well worth it for the benefits in my opinion.

    12. 04-23-2012 03:04 PM #37
      i would not jump into an audi before a vw

      if you find that you can't keep up w/proper maintenance, you'll just diminish the luxury/performance experience, and just run a fine car into the ground

      i drive my 2.slow like an audi, sometimes better/faster too

      w/ the vw, you'll be paying close to audi maintenance bills anyway

      speed is over-rated (w/gas prices and speeding tickets)

      luxury is over-rated (how many hours do you spend in a car versus at home ? makes no sense when my co-workers have a more luxury/comfortable car than a place to live, lol)

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      04-23-2012 03:15 PM #38
      I currently own both a b7 A4 2.0T and a MK5 Jetta 2.5. If you are looking for some excitement, a great interior with options and a little bit of "status" ... get the Audi. If you want a car that will be rock solid, start every time, take a beating and still be pretty fun to drive ... get the Jetta.

      The Jetta doesn't have the mystique or driving feel that the audi has, but when we decide to go a long trip, we take the Jetta.
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      04-23-2012 03:59 PM #39
      Quote Originally Posted by seadoo2006 View Post
      Coming from an owner ... B6 A4 ... get the 1.8t.
      ....just be prepared to flip your sh** when the heated seat burns your ass.

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      04-23-2012 04:27 PM #40
      My current car is an 04 A4 1.8T and I am in love with this car. I bought it at around 75k mi, replaced the timing belt, water pump, tstat, etc. Yes, I have had vacuum line problems; in fact, I've replaced so many that I lost track (it all started with replacing the damn coolant temp sensor - worst positioning). Otherwise, regular maintenance has kept up. I love the ride, the overall quality of the car, and the looks. It's not as peppy as I had hoped, considering its weight with the Quattro set up and fairly underpowered motor, but as a daily driver, it's all that I need and gets me where I need to go.

      Like a few other people have said, test drive both cars, and decide which you feel most comfortable purchasing, and what you can see yourself driving for a long time. Also, though not always possible, I highly recommend trying to find a vehicle with extensive maintenance history - a very well maintained car is much better route. Good luck in your endeavors.

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      04-23-2012 05:35 PM #41
      Quote Originally Posted by mhjett View Post
      ....just be prepared to flip your sh** when the heated seat burns your ass.

      Haha, I did and raised holy hell with AoA ... but hey, I got the repair for free ..

    17. 04-23-2012 07:01 PM #42
      Awesome advice guys. Keep it coming.

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      04-30-2012 09:12 AM #43
      Quote Originally Posted by seadoo2006 View Post
      Haha, I did and raised holy hell with AoA ... but hey, I got the repair for free ..
      I know... I remember your thread on here about it.
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    19. 05-03-2012 08:41 PM #44
      Still confused on which to get. Goshh. Decisions decisions n

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      05-03-2012 08:54 PM #45
      As a b5 and b6 owner I will suggest the MKV.
      The little things that keeps breaking in older Audi will disappoint you in no time.

    21. 05-03-2012 10:13 PM #46
      Quote Originally Posted by JusDub View Post
      Tbis is where my dilemma lies. I like the mk5 exterior and understand that engine is reliable. BUT I hear the 2.5 is slow as hell. I mean not that I speed wherever I go but if I need to I would like to have some "kick" behind it.
      I just spent 4 days driving a Jetta 2.5 Auto; felt pretty good to me. Plenty of power; good amount of torque missing in most smaller 4 cylinder cars. Quiet and smooth, makes that nice 5 cyl growl if you run it out. I didn't think it was weak at all.
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      05-03-2012 10:39 PM #47
      I had 2 2.5 Jettas and love them . I had 06 and wife has 2010(40k miles on it now) and its been trouble free for both cars. They are not the fastest thing, but plenty of power to go around. We have all black interior and it looks great.
      A4 has nicer styling and more features and options. 1.8T has more tuning potential, but also potential problems.

      If you want the looks and not worried about POTENTIAL(doesnt mean it will happen) problems, get A4.
      If you want a reliable,simple fun engine in a decent package get a Jetta. Any and all work on the Jetta will be cheaper then A4.
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      05-04-2012 08:05 AM #48
      What's your budget? That will say a lot about which choice is wiser.

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      08-14-2012 04:04 PM #49
      coming from a b6 a4 3.0, I went to a jetta wolfsburg 2.0t...no regrets at all...the only thing that kinda bothered me was not having xenons but in comparision the 2.0t is way funner to drive and still my dd. In addition I havn't had a single problem with it since. The audi was full of headaches even though I maintained her very well

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      08-14-2012 04:30 PM #50
      I have a 02 A4 3.0Q 6spd sport with 87k miles. I purchased it 3 years ago with 49k. It has been daily driven everyday, and only in the past few months have I sank a serious amount of $ into it. I had the timing belt and all other components replaced, along with a new radiator fan module, new axles and a few new mounts. Other than regular gas/oil changes, it has been reliable. There are things that break, and with it being 10 years old now, it's to be expected that parts are going to wear out to some degree.
      One of the worst things I hate about the interior is the finish on all the switches. If you look at any B6 A4 I guarantee you will find peeling window switches or headlight switches, or hvac switches. Broken armrest lids, gloveboxes, and seatbacks are probably going to be pretty common. Unfortunately, they are not always cheap fixes. I lock my glovebox and don't ever use it, the armrest lid is annoying having to be in the down position (when driving a manual anyway) as it can interfere with shifting at times, and the seatbacks, well, I don't look at it so it doesn't bother me till I open the rear door, or someone mentions it. The styling is definitely still very nice, and I find it to have aged very well.

      The 3.0 has enough oomph to make it enjoyable, but if you plan to mod the engine for more, then do not consider it. But it doesn't sound like you are looking to go mod crazy, so it's a very comfortable package.

      The Jetta will be newer- less broken, and definitely cheaper to operate/maintain.

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