I believe the 2.5s had a regular 6 speed automatic, not DSG like on 2.0t and TDIs.Originally Posted by jpalmer;77023111I
Have had a few issues (trunk latch, coolant plug, steering rack), but otherwise it has been fine. The car is a very refined and balanced package. I think you just need to consider whether the extra refinement and improved driving experience of the Audi are important to you or not.
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92 Corrado SLC 5MT: The most reliable VW I've ever owned (yes, ironic).; 06 Jetta 2.0T 6MT: The fastest boring VW I've ever owned.; 01 Jetta VR6 5MT: The slowest funnest VW I've ever owned.; 08 R32 DSG: The best yet most disappointing VW I've ever owned (cough cough DSG cough cough).; 16 GTI SE DSG: The best DSG VW I've ever owned.
Is the 2.5 "fast?" No. Is it "slow as hell?" Absolutely not. The '08+, 170hp variant is actually surprisingly punchy with the automatic, and has plenty of torque for city or highway driving. It's far more usable (IMO) than some of the 150-170hp 4-cylinders that typically have far less available torque. The engine is also a relaxed tank of a power plant (less than 9:1 compression I believe) so it should be rock solid on reliability.
Like I just told a co-worker (who went on to buy a new Golf last week)... I auto-x with my 2.5. Mine is the 150hp variant with zero engine mods, and it does JUST fine. If you can auto-x with it, you can handle 99% of daily driving with it.
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I actually was pretty serious about an '06 B7 A4 S-line with 65k miles, but ended up with an '08 Jetta SE 2.5 that had 41k miles when we bought it last summer. The A4 is a step up in class, if not size, a more sophisticated car all-around, but I'd wager than upkeep and repairs on a 2.5 mkV Jetta will be much lower.
As far as the 2.5 itself - I came from a 2.8 12v VR6 in a mkIII and while it's not quite as snappy nor does it sound as sexy, I've grown to like it. It has plenty of low-end torks which makes for snappy around-town driving, and it opens up pretty decently at high RPMs as well as, if not better than, the VR6.
i would not jump into an audi before a vw
if you find that you can't keep up w/proper maintenance, you'll just diminish the luxury/performance experience, and just run a fine car into the ground
i drive my 2.slow like an audi, sometimes better/faster too
w/ the vw, you'll be paying close to audi maintenance bills anyway
speed is over-rated (w/gas prices and speeding tickets)
luxury is over-rated (how many hours do you spend in a car versus at home ? makes no sense when my co-workers have a more luxury/comfortable car than a place to live, lol)
I currently own both a b7 A4 2.0T and a MK5 Jetta 2.5. If you are looking for some excitement, a great interior with options and a little bit of "status" ... get the Audi. If you want a car that will be rock solid, start every time, take a beating and still be pretty fun to drive ... get the Jetta.
The Jetta doesn't have the mystique or driving feel that the audi has, but when we decide to go a long trip, we take the Jetta.
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My current car is an 04 A4 1.8T and I am in love with this car. I bought it at around 75k mi, replaced the timing belt, water pump, tstat, etc. Yes, I have had vacuum line problems; in fact, I've replaced so many that I lost track (it all started with replacing the damn coolant temp sensor - worst positioning). Otherwise, regular maintenance has kept up. I love the ride, the overall quality of the car, and the looks. It's not as peppy as I had hoped, considering its weight with the Quattro set up and fairly underpowered motor, but as a daily driver, it's all that I need and gets me where I need to go.
Like a few other people have said, test drive both cars, and decide which you feel most comfortable purchasing, and what you can see yourself driving for a long time. Also, though not always possible, I highly recommend trying to find a vehicle with extensive maintenance history - a very well maintained car is much better route. Good luck in your endeavors.
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I had 2 2.5 Jettas and love them . I had 06 and wife has 2010(40k miles on it now) and its been trouble free for both cars. They are not the fastest thing, but plenty of power to go around. We have all black interior and it looks great.
A4 has nicer styling and more features and options. 1.8T has more tuning potential, but also potential problems.
If you want the looks and not worried about POTENTIAL(doesnt mean it will happen) problems, get A4.
If you want a reliable,simple fun engine in a decent package get a Jetta. Any and all work on the Jetta will be cheaper then A4.
coming from a b6 a4 3.0, I went to a jetta wolfsburg 2.0t...no regrets at all...the only thing that kinda bothered me was not having xenons but in comparision the 2.0t is way funner to drive and still my dd. In addition I havn't had a single problem with it since. The audi was full of headaches even though I maintained her very well
I have a 02 A4 3.0Q 6spd sport with 87k miles. I purchased it 3 years ago with 49k. It has been daily driven everyday, and only in the past few months have I sank a serious amount of $ into it. I had the timing belt and all other components replaced, along with a new radiator fan module, new axles and a few new mounts. Other than regular gas/oil changes, it has been reliable. There are things that break, and with it being 10 years old now, it's to be expected that parts are going to wear out to some degree.
One of the worst things I hate about the interior is the finish on all the switches. If you look at any B6 A4 I guarantee you will find peeling window switches or headlight switches, or hvac switches. Broken armrest lids, gloveboxes, and seatbacks are probably going to be pretty common. Unfortunately, they are not always cheap fixes. I lock my glovebox and don't ever use it, the armrest lid is annoying having to be in the down position (when driving a manual anyway) as it can interfere with shifting at times, and the seatbacks, well, I don't look at it so it doesn't bother me till I open the rear door, or someone mentions it. The styling is definitely still very nice, and I find it to have aged very well.
The 3.0 has enough oomph to make it enjoyable, but if you plan to mod the engine for more, then do not consider it. But it doesn't sound like you are looking to go mod crazy, so it's a very comfortable package.
The Jetta will be newer- less broken, and definitely cheaper to operate/maintain.