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    Thread: Which new automotive trend needs to die?

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      04-24-2012 08:48 AM #126
      I like the xB,Soul,Cube class of cars. They're efficient, have tons of space, and cheap. Not to mention most come loaded with features out of the box. Its a pretty sweet car for young adults hauling things around. Plus since they're smaller cars it makes getting through the city/parking less of a hassle than driving an SUV.

      The sporty SUVs are cool too. I dont mind having a badass balls to the wall SUV that made for pure performance. My issue is when every manufacturer goes and does the same thing as the first guy who did it. There isn't much of a high powered SUV market out there, so one or two companies doing it is fine, but when all of them do its overkill.

      I guess the oversaturation done by all companies is what kills a lot of niche cars and while its not so much of a trend as much as it is just doing business, it needs to stop. The X6 is a perfect example, one company makes a niche car with relative success, a few others try to. If you're company can't make a better product then what you're trying to compete with in a niche market, don't make it. Thankfully the car companies were smart enough to not try to copy Nissan with the Murano droptop.
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      04-24-2012 08:57 AM #127
      4-door coupes and CUV/SUV things that look like dogs dropping a deuce.

      The only ones that should be allowed to live are the CLS and the X6, respectively.

      The rest (Panamera, A7, ZDX, 5GT, Crosstour et al) can go burn somewhere. Yes, even the Porsche. All are styling abominations.
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      04-24-2012 09:49 AM #128
      Quote Originally Posted by Dave Zero View Post
      Things that need to come back: ashtrays/lighters.
      Why? No one smokes anymore. Plus I enjoy the additional storage space that doesn't look like an ashtray.

    4. 04-24-2012 09:50 AM #129
      HID retrofit kits, anything higher than 6000K. Any HID in a truck or a lifted car.

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      04-24-2012 09:50 AM #130
      Quote Originally Posted by JCMaler View Post
      ventiports, pepboys or factory, found anywhere other than on a (old) Buick.

      How about the fact that this was considered a viable design in the first place.

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      04-24-2012 09:55 AM #131
      The one trend with cars that bothers me the most are how commonplace low-profile tires or side-wall reinforced tires are now. Basically a ton of cars now come with tires that have a 50 to 55 aspect ratio, which means that theres a metal band in the sidewall, and if you even slightly curb the rim or hit a nasty bump, you'll need a new tire. Forget the fact that you got them from Costco and they'll replace it for nothing, it's a damn pain in the ass and a waste of oil, since it takes 8 barrels to make a damn tire anyways.

      I'd like to see more automakers revert to tires with the 60-aspect because many of those tires don't have the metal-reinforced sidewalls and in the long haul they endure alot better. Also, some cars, like the Mazda3, have a downright horrible ride with the stock 17-inch rims and when downgraded to the 16-inchers found on the base i models, they ride a ton better.

      It's annoying to see literally every high-level trim car out there with big rims and costly tires. You can get good tires for your money provided that the rim size isn't freaking outrageous. And the car can still drive wonderfully with a good ride/handling trade off.
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      It really is the perfect, no excuses all-rounder for the rich guy who's accustomed to having it all - the Hybrid version especially. It's like an F-150 Raptor banged an M5 in the men's room of a biker bar. Nobody really wanted the results, but damn - what a set of genes.

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      04-24-2012 09:56 AM #132
      Oh one more thing:

      One more trend I'd like to see start more of is standard fog lamps. Automakers are lazy as **** and should provided these on mid-level models instead of gouging people for the high end one.
      Quote Originally Posted by Turbiodiesel!
      It really is the perfect, no excuses all-rounder for the rich guy who's accustomed to having it all - the Hybrid version especially. It's like an F-150 Raptor banged an M5 in the men's room of a biker bar. Nobody really wanted the results, but damn - what a set of genes.

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      04-24-2012 10:47 AM #133

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      04-24-2012 12:00 PM #134
      Quote Originally Posted by DasBaldGuy View Post
      Didn't read whole thread but I hate:

      1) Angry Front ends
      2) Angry Rear ends


      ...it was bad enough when cars slowly started looking angry (agressive?) from the front but then the asses started being pissed off too....that is when you know you've taken it too far.
      i laughed at this
      Quote Originally Posted by vdubdave View Post
      The pinched front grilles coming from the Asian manufacturers. Needs to stop. Now.





      agreed. ugly. ps idea, pinch, yeah thatll work
      Quote Originally Posted by L33t A2 View Post
      hood and fenders that blend into the windshield and a-pillar



      wheel arches that have a 2-3" flat border around the opening

      ^yeah, bad taste.
      Quote Originally Posted by bryanboley View Post
      lower it.

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      Quote Originally Posted by JCMaler View Post
      Chrome/clear taillights.
      kill this bs trend.
      Quote Originally Posted by Viveka View Post
      Those nasty Nissan Cube / Kia Soul / Scion XB things

      UGLY!
      when were boxes good cars to own? oh. yeah. thats right... when-i-was-five
      Quote Originally Posted by delrio View Post
      those look like fun though turbo they remind me of jet skis and mouse boats for the road
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    10. 04-24-2012 12:08 PM #135
      Quote Originally Posted by Woodski View Post
      led DRL's.

      yeah but why!?!? They are energy efficient and bright so who cares?

      The only thing i dont really like is 18+ inch wheels on regular everyday cars. They are not needed for handling, or to cover larger brakes, they just cost double when you need tires.

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      04-24-2012 01:51 PM #136
      Quote Originally Posted by Jettavr666 View Post
      yeah but why!?!? They are energy efficient and bright so who cares?

      The only thing i dont really like is 18+ inch wheels on regular everyday cars. They are not needed for handling, or to cover larger brakes, they just cost double when you need tires.
      You know what's more energy efficient than LED day time running lights? Not having day time running lights... DRL are dumb

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      04-24-2012 01:54 PM #137
      They're required by law.

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      04-24-2012 01:55 PM #138
      Quote Originally Posted by hfiles2011 View Post

      when were boxes good cars to own? oh. yeah. thats right... when-i-was-five
      or when you have a small business and/or you want to maximize interior space for carying stuff while minimizing the actual footprint of the car. They are marvellous exercises in packaging. But I woudl't expect a testosterone addled teenager to uderstand practical vehicles.
      I love cars, but the problem is they are like schroedinger's hobby. They're always in a quantum superstate of being both awesome and a huge waste of time and money... until observation momentarily forces them into one state or another.

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      04-24-2012 01:57 PM #139
      Quote Originally Posted by Fritz27 View Post
      They're required by law.
      So are front license plates in CA, and I don't have one of those either. DRL are still dumb, glad I was able to shut mine off for good

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      04-24-2012 02:21 PM #140
      Quote Originally Posted by Fritz27 View Post
      They're required by law.
      Canada, yeah, but I'm not aware they were ever made mandatory in the US. Of course, I could be wrong...

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      04-24-2012 02:39 PM #141
      Quote Originally Posted by Chris_V View Post
      or when you have a small business and/or you want to maximize interior space for carying stuff while minimizing the actual footprint of the car. They are marvellous exercises in packaging. But I woudl't expect a testosterone addled teenager to uderstand practical vehicles.
      do you direct most of your frustration/anger towards teenagers a lot?
      i was talking about the aerodynamics of the boxes you call a car. carbon footprint i bet you drink bottled water.

      your 2012 scion xb gets a combined 24 mpg with all the stuff you can fit in it, in it. probably 18. the mpg of a maybach or benz v8. dont know how thats practical but you got it champ.

      2012 nissan cube 25 city 30 highway no space for 4 tall testosterone addled teenagers and practical room for small little men.

      2012 kia soul you’ll roughly see 27-mpg in the city and 35-mpg on the highway. not a lot of room here either but better mpg than the others. so out of these 3 it is the most practical.

      ive been in all of these cars theyre not spacious to me and THEY LOOK LIKE BOXES
      not to mention safety - these are all a smart car on a little larger scale


      these cars arent practical they are just weird/different cute and cheap

      come on you sir are not as environmentally friendly as you think you are. what do small businesses have to do with anything? a lot of small businesses dont recycle. write a letter to your representative about your concerns with footprints. all the government vehicles tested and diagnosed if they have big carbon footprints.

      im not saying carbon footprints arent real im saying you use it as a reason to drive that ugly pos when really its just in your budget.

      these 2011 and 2012 cars are practical
      audi a3
      nissan leaf
      toyota prius
      ford focus, fiesta, fusion
      honda insight
      volkswagen jetta, sportswagen, tdi

      i bet you like the new scion iq and you think its practical

      A MARK IV GOLF/JETTA TDI gets around 40 mpg easily 1999.5-2004.5 and are as spacious as those 3 if not more
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      04-24-2012 02:55 PM #142
      ^LOL.
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      No. Smell has a very strong connection in the brain with feelings... or if you're walking past A&F you might think of that chick you fingerblasted when you were 15.

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      04-24-2012 04:42 PM #143
      Quote Originally Posted by hfiles2011 View Post
      do you direct most of your frustration/anger towards teenagers a lot?
      No, but dumbass teenagers tend to make the stupidest statements.
      i was talking about the aerodynamics of the boxes you call a car. carbon footprint i bet you drink bottled water.
      I was talking about PHYSICAL footprint. Didn't say "carbon" anywhere in my post, dumbass. It's about how small you can make a car and make it emminently practical. And a box is the most efficent use of space. That's why vans are box shaped.

      Oh, and I don't own one, as you can see by my list over there
      I love cars, but the problem is they are like schroedinger's hobby. They're always in a quantum superstate of being both awesome and a huge waste of time and money... until observation momentarily forces them into one state or another.

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      04-24-2012 04:48 PM #144
      BMW.

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      04-24-2012 05:11 PM #145
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      I just hate closed minded asshats who revel in having no actual knowledge, like yourself.
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      04-24-2012 05:30 PM #146
      Station wagons with tapering rear ends. They need to be boxy to be practical. A Dodge Magnum doesn't have a lot of cargo room. I like driving a car, but need the extra room. More so than a hatchback.

      It's a long shot, I know, since station wagons are just about dead here.

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      BMW.
      wrong!
      correct answer is VW
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      04-24-2012 05:40 PM #148
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      04-24-2012 06:41 PM #149
      Analog clocks in car dashes. Hate them.

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      04-24-2012 07:04 PM #150
      [QUOTE=Chris_V;77067038]No, but dumbass teenagers tend to make the stupidest statements.


      I was talking about PHYSICAL footprint. Didn't say "carbon" anywhere in my post, dumbass. It's about how small you can make a car and make it emminently practical. And a box is the most efficent use of space. That's why vans are box shaped.

      Oh, and I don't own one, as you can see by my list over there
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