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    Thread: Which new automotive trend needs to die?

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      04-23-2012 01:32 PM #106
      I agree with anyone who is not feeling the colors of todays cars. Back in the day , if a car was black, gray or silver - it was bada$$. Now, its just boring.

      The O.E. design teams need to work harder on making cars beautiful again -a "safe" color isn't good enough with todays paint technology. It is a simple marketing concept- great looking cars sell better.
      Someday I will post something stupid here, but not yet.

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      04-23-2012 01:53 PM #107
      Something that bothers me - each new generation of car gets bigger than the previous gen. Why not just keep it the same size?

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      04-23-2012 01:55 PM #108
      Can they please do away w/these large 4dr/cuv/coupe things??



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      04-23-2012 03:37 PM #109
      Quote Originally Posted by 01tj View Post
      No MANual option
      No MANual option on all but the bare-bones base model
      Bare-bones models with manuals are hard to come by; depending on the marque.

      Dealer lots aren't stocked with them; you'd have to order one, which akin to teeth-pulling without anesthetic.

      Another thing that needs to die are upswept rear windows, especially with another lousy trend: low roof lines.



      (Malibu is worse than it looks)

      More plz

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      04-23-2012 03:51 PM #110
      I dislike center mounted instrument clusters, but seems that the trend is fading

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      04-23-2012 03:57 PM #111
      Quote Originally Posted by sticky euro View Post
      stance
      /thread. Nothing annoys me more than nutswingers who attempt to justify form over function. imad.

      Form over function has been what custom cars have been about since the 1940s. It's not a new fad (just has a new bit of slang to describe it) and is not going away anytime soon.



      For my contribution, the "fad" I hate the most is intolerance on message boards to other people's automotive hobby choices. It's become hip to be as insulting as possible about every tiny thing you don't like. It's made the entire hobby a dismal and antagonistic thing to be involved in. So I'm returning the favor. You want to be insulting, you're gonna be insulted in return.
      I love cars, but the problem is they are like schroedinger's hobby. They're always in a quantum superstate of being both awesome and a huge waste of time and money... until observation momentarily forces them into one state or another.

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      04-23-2012 04:25 PM #112
      Quote Originally Posted by BRealistic View Post
      AFTERMARKET HID DROP IN KITS.
      x2 This should be illegal…..period. I have been blinded many times by d-bags that drop this crap in to their halogen housings without any concern for how bright they are or what direction they are pointing in.

      Also, fart-can / potato-gun exhausts in any application, but more so with smaller displacement engines.

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      04-23-2012 04:50 PM #113
      Quote Originally Posted by Lchop1.8T View Post
      x2 This should be illegal…..period.
      It is illegal.

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      04-23-2012 05:15 PM #114
      Quote Originally Posted by sticky euro View Post
      Fair enough, and obviously to each his own. But if you were to bag even a GTI, a "hot-hatch" which is meant to be sporty and fun to drive, why would you ruin it by running bags, and stretched tires? Not to mention show rats who run big turbo...and bags. It just doesn't make sense, why not just buy a golf?
      lol, have you ridden in a car with bags... ever?

      my air suspension handles and rides better than the OEM suspension that came on the car, and the coilovers i had on there for 2 years.

      Bilsteins > OEM.

      the whole "no function" thing is also bull, im pretty sure adding 2 inches of ground clearance over the stock suspension when i air up is perfectly functional... extra clearance on drit/gravel roads, potholes, bumps, road hazards... etc.
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      04-23-2012 05:31 PM #115
      led DRL's
      x2
      ...that shut off when you turn on the indicator, as mentioned earlier. Probably just the bandwagon thing that gets me, as I like them at first on Audis...then Mercs, now Korean cars.
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      04-23-2012 05:32 PM #116
      The only one i really hate is big rims (wheels for American).
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      04-23-2012 06:29 PM #117
      ventiports, pepboys or factory, found anywhere other than on a (old) Buick.


    13. 04-23-2012 06:33 PM #118
      Starter buttons are for LeMans style starts where you can jump in the car with the hand on the shifter and use your other hand to start the car with the button.

      Starter buttons on center consols or the same side of the key are dumb, pointless, and need to go away.

      Also TPS, ABS on subcompacts (don't need it), traction control on weaker cars (don't need it) and the 10 side curtain airbags that do nothing but go off most the time and make the car a complete write off on airbags alone.

      Things that need to come back: ashtrays/lighters.

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      04-23-2012 06:34 PM #119
      Chrome/clear taillights.

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      04-23-2012 06:34 PM #120
      Quote Originally Posted by x_GTI_x View Post
      lol, have you ridden in a car with bags... ever?

      my air suspension handles and rides better than the OEM suspension that came on the car, and the coilovers i had on there for 2 years.

      Bilsteins > OEM.

      the whole "no function" thing is also bull, im pretty sure adding 2 inches of ground clearance over the stock suspension when i air up is perfectly functional... extra clearance on drit/gravel roads, potholes, bumps, road hazards... etc.
      I have and it literally felt like I was driving in a moonbounce. It was stiff and soft at the same time and was plainly awkward. I also never argued that OEM suspension is the best either, I was saying that scenesters who argue that bags, stretched tires, and overdone camber are the same as quality coils and proper fitting tires are laughable.

      'Stance' still needs to die.

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      04-23-2012 07:56 PM #121
      Ding Ding Ding... We have a winner!


      Quote Originally Posted by L33t A2 View Post



      wheel arches that have a 2-3" flat border around the opening


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      04-23-2012 08:07 PM #122
      Quote Originally Posted by -DWM- View Post
      Protruding lights:



      Big picture so it bugs the crap out of you, too.
      I hate this
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      sprayed it on, waited some time, and proceeded to go at it with a scraper, some pliers, and a lot of f-ing hard work.

    18. 04-23-2012 08:22 PM #123
      i think we should go back to horses.

      Cars in general sucks!
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      Keep in mind the noise you hear in an S2000 is the ENGINE, and not the exhaust note that VR6 people jizz over. I'd rather have a nice sounding engine than a nice sounding exhaust.

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      04-24-2012 08:23 AM #124
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      hater..I don't like walking, and horses smell BAD!
      Someday I will post something stupid here, but not yet.

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      04-24-2012 08:28 AM #125
      Those nasty Nissan Cube / Kia Soul / Scion XB things

      UGLY!

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      04-24-2012 08:48 AM #126
      I like the xB,Soul,Cube class of cars. They're efficient, have tons of space, and cheap. Not to mention most come loaded with features out of the box. Its a pretty sweet car for young adults hauling things around. Plus since they're smaller cars it makes getting through the city/parking less of a hassle than driving an SUV.

      The sporty SUVs are cool too. I dont mind having a badass balls to the wall SUV that made for pure performance. My issue is when every manufacturer goes and does the same thing as the first guy who did it. There isn't much of a high powered SUV market out there, so one or two companies doing it is fine, but when all of them do its overkill.

      I guess the oversaturation done by all companies is what kills a lot of niche cars and while its not so much of a trend as much as it is just doing business, it needs to stop. The X6 is a perfect example, one company makes a niche car with relative success, a few others try to. If you're company can't make a better product then what you're trying to compete with in a niche market, don't make it. Thankfully the car companies were smart enough to not try to copy Nissan with the Murano droptop.
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      04-24-2012 08:57 AM #127
      4-door coupes and CUV/SUV things that look like dogs dropping a deuce.

      The only ones that should be allowed to live are the CLS and the X6, respectively.

      The rest (Panamera, A7, ZDX, 5GT, Crosstour et al) can go burn somewhere. Yes, even the Porsche. All are styling abominations.
      Quote Originally Posted by teklord69 View Post
      Scenario: Uphill on two lane hwy. You need to pass and overtake a slower vehicle. That 151 torque won't let you. You will hit an oncoming car the opposite side if you do.

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      04-24-2012 09:49 AM #128
      Quote Originally Posted by Dave Zero View Post
      Things that need to come back: ashtrays/lighters.
      Why? No one smokes anymore. Plus I enjoy the additional storage space that doesn't look like an ashtray.

    24. 04-24-2012 09:50 AM #129
      HID retrofit kits, anything higher than 6000K. Any HID in a truck or a lifted car.

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      04-24-2012 09:50 AM #130
      Quote Originally Posted by JCMaler View Post
      ventiports, pepboys or factory, found anywhere other than on a (old) Buick.

      How about the fact that this was considered a viable design in the first place.

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      04-24-2012 09:55 AM #131
      The one trend with cars that bothers me the most are how commonplace low-profile tires or side-wall reinforced tires are now. Basically a ton of cars now come with tires that have a 50 to 55 aspect ratio, which means that theres a metal band in the sidewall, and if you even slightly curb the rim or hit a nasty bump, you'll need a new tire. Forget the fact that you got them from Costco and they'll replace it for nothing, it's a damn pain in the ass and a waste of oil, since it takes 8 barrels to make a damn tire anyways.

      I'd like to see more automakers revert to tires with the 60-aspect because many of those tires don't have the metal-reinforced sidewalls and in the long haul they endure alot better. Also, some cars, like the Mazda3, have a downright horrible ride with the stock 17-inch rims and when downgraded to the 16-inchers found on the base i models, they ride a ton better.

      It's annoying to see literally every high-level trim car out there with big rims and costly tires. You can get good tires for your money provided that the rim size isn't freaking outrageous. And the car can still drive wonderfully with a good ride/handling trade off.
      Quote Originally Posted by Turbiodiesel!
      It really is the perfect, no excuses all-rounder for the rich guy who's accustomed to having it all - the Hybrid version especially. It's like an F-150 Raptor banged an M5 in the men's room of a biker bar. Nobody really wanted the results, but damn - what a set of genes.

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      04-24-2012 09:56 AM #132
      Oh one more thing:

      One more trend I'd like to see start more of is standard fog lamps. Automakers are lazy as **** and should provided these on mid-level models instead of gouging people for the high end one.
      Quote Originally Posted by Turbiodiesel!
      It really is the perfect, no excuses all-rounder for the rich guy who's accustomed to having it all - the Hybrid version especially. It's like an F-150 Raptor banged an M5 in the men's room of a biker bar. Nobody really wanted the results, but damn - what a set of genes.

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      04-24-2012 12:00 PM #134
      Quote Originally Posted by DasBaldGuy View Post
      Didn't read whole thread but I hate:

      1) Angry Front ends
      2) Angry Rear ends


      ...it was bad enough when cars slowly started looking angry (agressive?) from the front but then the asses started being pissed off too....that is when you know you've taken it too far.
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      The pinched front grilles coming from the Asian manufacturers. Needs to stop. Now.





      agreed. ugly. ps idea, pinch, yeah thatll work
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      hood and fenders that blend into the windshield and a-pillar



      wheel arches that have a 2-3" flat border around the opening

      ^yeah, bad taste.
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      lower it.

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      Quote Originally Posted by JCMaler View Post
      Chrome/clear taillights.
      kill this bs trend.
      Quote Originally Posted by Viveka View Post
      Those nasty Nissan Cube / Kia Soul / Scion XB things

      UGLY!
      when were boxes good cars to own? oh. yeah. thats right... when-i-was-five
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      those look like fun though turbo they remind me of jet skis and mouse boats for the road
      Last edited by hfiles2011; 04-24-2012 at 02:02 PM.

    30. 04-24-2012 12:08 PM #135
      Quote Originally Posted by Woodski View Post
      led DRL's.

      yeah but why!?!? They are energy efficient and bright so who cares?

      The only thing i dont really like is 18+ inch wheels on regular everyday cars. They are not needed for handling, or to cover larger brakes, they just cost double when you need tires.

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      04-24-2012 01:51 PM #136
      Quote Originally Posted by Jettavr666 View Post
      yeah but why!?!? They are energy efficient and bright so who cares?

      The only thing i dont really like is 18+ inch wheels on regular everyday cars. They are not needed for handling, or to cover larger brakes, they just cost double when you need tires.
      You know what's more energy efficient than LED day time running lights? Not having day time running lights... DRL are dumb

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      04-24-2012 01:54 PM #137
      They're required by law.

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      04-24-2012 01:55 PM #138
      Quote Originally Posted by hfiles2011 View Post

      when were boxes good cars to own? oh. yeah. thats right... when-i-was-five
      or when you have a small business and/or you want to maximize interior space for carying stuff while minimizing the actual footprint of the car. They are marvellous exercises in packaging. But I woudl't expect a testosterone addled teenager to uderstand practical vehicles.
      I love cars, but the problem is they are like schroedinger's hobby. They're always in a quantum superstate of being both awesome and a huge waste of time and money... until observation momentarily forces them into one state or another.

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      04-24-2012 01:57 PM #139
      Quote Originally Posted by Fritz27 View Post
      They're required by law.
      So are front license plates in CA, and I don't have one of those either. DRL are still dumb, glad I was able to shut mine off for good

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      04-24-2012 02:21 PM #140
      Quote Originally Posted by Fritz27 View Post
      They're required by law.
      Canada, yeah, but I'm not aware they were ever made mandatory in the US. Of course, I could be wrong...

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