Holy crap, I would be worried about the damage to the bellhousing. That is right where the pinion bearing sits.
#1
Hey guys i had an issue last year with my competition twin disc getting it to fit, i called the company directly and was told that i would have to ship it back and they might be regrind the plate down or i just might have to regrind the bellhousing down to fit, they said " they never seen this issue before" so i decided to grind down the bellhousing because i needed to get the car back on the road. I got it running last year but she never drove, i did put it in gears multiple times so i know im ok there, i did also move it in my driveway while it was in gear and everything so i know it does move the car and it does engage into gears very smoothly but what do you guys think? I shaved it down a lot and i used grease on the plate itself to see if it would be touching the bellhousing and it wasnt so i just took the tranny off now because i was gonna check on the timing and i see this, I dont have warranty anymore i think so should i just shave it down a little bit more and call it a day? The discs look fine and so does the flywheel, nothing looks damaged besides the plate and bellhousing, thanks for the help guys
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#2
Holy crap, I would be worried about the damage to the bellhousing. That is right where the pinion bearing sits.
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#3
That's allot of interference, enough to think it's the wrong application. I wonder if you have a crank thrust washer any more. Is that flywheel for that clutch? I always see the cm twins come with a flywheel and don't know if they fit stock ones.
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#4
Yeah it came with the flywheel, its all one package but what should i do? Should i get a new set up and trans? I really dont want to obviously, this **** isnt cheap
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#5
In my view it's not a problem to make more clearance but it must be done with machine tools not by hand. I would have to think that all that damage happened more or less all at once on start up. short of a missing thrust washer there can't be that much movement in the crank. And even then. So yeah...take some off the flywheel and I personally would take some truing cuts on the clutch just for balance sake. You might be able to gain some by taking a cut on the pillars/bosses that mate to the flywheel as well. My guess is if you could gain .10" you would be good, though even .075 might get you there. For sure put a pinion brace on.
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#6
I would not run that case in a high hp car, recipe for disaster. I think they sent you the wrong one. Maybe someone else who runs this will chime in.
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#7
o2a or 02j bellhousing?
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boost + traction = boom
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98 GTI - Mustard Mayhem - 1/4 - 11.679@117.58mph - .8 bar - parted Timeslip
96 GTI - Turbo Panda - 1/8 - 7.63@97mph - 1.1 bar of turbo fun!
89 325is - New turbo project
www.lugtronic.com
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#14
Both the clutch and bellhousing ar scrap. imho
if you have the power to need to run a twinplate, the housing will deff. not hold
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#15
Clutch looks fine. If you look close it's just picked up aluminum from the pinion boss. Very little material has left the clutch. Clean it up and verify balance.
But I agree there is not enough wall left of the pinion boss to stand up to a whole lot. So change the housing. Sucks but it's not a total loss.
But of course you still need to deal with the clearance.
Anyway if you bail on the clutch I'll buy it and make it work. With no handiwork into it that is.
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#16
Another vote for that bellhousing being toast.
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#17
anything over 450 that bellhousing will crack everywhere lol
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#18
both junk....
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#19
Hey guys so i got really good bews, Bob from competition clutch called me yesterday and basically told that for mk3's, there are about 5 or 6 transmission codes so the test vehicle that they had in the shop was a different code so what they are basically going to do is grind down the flywheel a little to get it to fit. They believe that the flywheel will still have enough material to be perfectly functional and of course clear the bellhousing. Everything is covored under warranty and i should be receiving it within the next week. I was pretty worried thinking they would blame it on me but they were honest and lets hope this time everything will be alright. I just ordered a new case so im gonna have to take the gears out of it the old and install everything. I did order a pinion brace from USRT so im really hoping everything fits. I'll definitely spin the engine around multiple times to make sure its not touching anything and if still is, im gonna raise hell![]()
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#20
Ive had issues even with Competition single disc clutches not clearing the bell housing. After about an hour with a file, the rivets were short enough to clear. Both clutches were bolted to the stock VR6 flywheel and then again to the flywheel they offer with no change in fitment.
#21
they should be replacing the bellhousing and cover the labour to split the tranny apart, if they are not take what they give you and then call them everyday and complain.
If they didn't cover everything and that was my car theyd have a clutch and bellhousing thru their front window.
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#23
the mk4, mk5 crowd is a bunch of posers