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    04-23-2012 02:11 PM #1
    I heard there is a bracket/fix for that pesky steering column failure in the MK1 stuff.

    Anyone have one or know if they will be available at Cincy?

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    04-23-2012 02:58 PM #2
    Stephen, is this what you are referring to ?


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    04-23-2012 03:47 PM #3
    How about we all buy new bearings and have a group bearing replacement seminar at cincy

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    04-23-2012 08:46 PM #4
    Fred,

    That's it! Looks like you are the purveyor of this latest coolity. Should have known the "Master Genius & Fabricator" would come up with something like this.

    I would like to throw my hat in the ring for at least 2 and maybe 3 (if my 4000 has the same steering column design).

    Please tell me you will bringing these to Cincy with you???

    Let me rephrase,

    Fred, would you please bring me a couple of your steering column repair devices so that I might take delivery of them at the Cincy gathering and avoid the whole shipping and international thing? (Shhh, you know I am trying to stay off the grid and away from the prying eyes of the Canadian Government.)
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    04-23-2012 10:18 PM #5
    It is with great pleasure for me to provide fellow A1 chassis owners with this little trinket, that might help in putting pleasure of drivability back into our vroom vrooms!

    Cheers!
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    04-23-2012 10:41 PM #6
    I would be liking one of those, too, please.
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    04-24-2012 05:55 AM #7
    I'm in for 2.

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    04-24-2012 06:52 AM #8
    Guys & gals, just send me a PM please, so I can arrange to have enough of them at Cincy...

    Cheers!
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    04-24-2012 09:54 PM #9
    Quote Originally Posted by fredybender View Post
    Stephen, is this what you are referring to ?

    bring them and i shall help w/ the installs, mr. bender.
    it's not just a car...it's a scirocco!

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    Yes. Follow the adjustment procedure in the Bentley. Works like "magic."

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    04-24-2012 10:39 PM #10
    Excuse my ignorance, but what exactly is the problem that this fixes?
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    04-24-2012 10:43 PM #11
    Quote Originally Posted by Jacob Matthew View Post
    Excuse my ignorance, but what exactly is the problem that this fixes?
    When the bearings go bad or drop they cause all sort of hell and weirdness...from light switches and such not working to vibration and excess free play up and down at the wheel.

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    05-01-2012 09:27 AM #12
    Quote Originally Posted by ginster86roc View Post
    bring them and i shall help w/ the installs, mr. bender.
    Im holding ginster to that statement!!!
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    05-01-2012 10:47 AM #13
    Quote Originally Posted by fredybender View Post
    Guys & gals, just send me a PM please
    Your mailbox is full!

    But! I will take one of your magic little devices at Cincy. I have to see if the '75's steering column bearing/race design is the same as the rest (I know a lot of other things in that column are different than every other year).

    If it is different, I'll use it on the '86. If it's the same, I'll order a second from you when I'm back in Toronto
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    05-01-2012 07:28 PM #14
    PM box cleaned up...
    The 75 steering column bearing should be the same according to Etka.

    Got you covered

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    05-01-2012 07:29 PM #15
    Free install to all, at Cincy with purchase; I will also bring some grease and pack your bearings too !!!

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    05-01-2012 08:46 PM #16
    Question: Your column fix, all it does is keep the bearing from coming back out ? I ask this because i think i have to fix whatever makes it rattle in the first place (Broken Bearing?) Im a lil confusesssssssss......

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    05-01-2012 09:09 PM #17
    Check if the lower column bearing is still in place. If the plastic race is off, and the bearing is loose, you have a very good chance on the bearing, still being OK.
    That being said, the faulty lower bearing plastic race, gets loose, and crumples over time:
    This will make your lower steering bearing slide down the column.
    If you still drive with this condition, it will eventually eat out the inner race, that will crawl up the steering shaft (being pinched on the lower portion of the race) and disintegrate after a while.

    You DO NOT want that, as the inner race, is unobtanium ! (you can still get some bearings here & there with some $ and patience)

    All in all, this item will keep the lower bearing in place, with or without the plastic outer race.

    HTH
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    05-01-2012 09:15 PM #18
    Quote Originally Posted by fredybender View Post
    Check if the lower column bearing is still in place. If the plastic race is off, and the bearing is loose, you have a very good chance on the bearing, still being OK.
    That being said, the faulty lower bearing plastic race, gets loose, and crumples over time:
    This will make your lower steering bearing slide down the column.
    If you still drive with this condition, it will eventually eat out the inner race, that will crawl up the steering shaft (being pinched on the lower portion of the race) and disintegrate after a while.

    You DO NOT want that, as the inner race, is unobtanium ! (you can still get some bearings here & there with some $ and patience)

    All in all, this item will keep the lower bearing in place, with or without the plastic outer race.

    HTH
    Fred
    Got it. Ok so i have seen that the lower bearing is still reasonably intact. But i dont see an outer plastic race that is supposed to retain the bearing. This is where your column fix should come in and take care of it? nice!

    thanks!!

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    06-18-2012 12:27 PM #19
    Quote Originally Posted by fredybender View Post
    The 75 steering column bearing should be the same according to Etka.
    Went for a quick peek this weekend, and it doesn't look like an easy install on the '75-only-pain-in-the-ass steering column. As you can see, where the bearing would sit is a big-ass spring sitting between the u-joint and the thrust ring.

    Last edited by cholland_; 06-18-2012 at 01:14 PM.
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    06-18-2012 12:38 PM #20
    Quote Originally Posted by cholland_ View Post
    Went for a quick peek this weekend, and it doesn't look like an easy install on the '75-only-pain-in-the-ass steering column. As you can see, where the bearing would sit is a big-ass spring sitting between the u-joint and the thrust ring.
    I see...
    If you don't need it, let me know, I'll just refund you...
    I only based myself on the steering column bearing P/N
    That spring is actually a pretty good idea!

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    06-18-2012 01:22 PM #21
    Thanks Fred. I may disassemble the steering column at some point, in which case I'm going to see if it's possible to use it between the spring and the inner bearing.

    But! On the plus side, the research I've put in after failing to install this thing has made me actually start looking for solutions to making a useable steering column on this damn car!
    Quote Originally Posted by Chris16vRocco View Post
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