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    View Poll Results: Will the next generation Nissan Z have smaller or bigger engine?

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    Thread: Will the next generation Nissan Z have a smaller or bigger engine?

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      04-25-2012 02:27 PM #26
      Smaller, turbocharged V6.
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      04-25-2012 03:14 PM #27
      Quote Originally Posted by Adam144 View Post
      Yeah but you're not quantifying it with anything other than a number.

      Have you driven the 370Z? People are obsessed over a number that is honestly unrealistic when you think about it.

      People want cars with options, the best selling cars are usually those with options. Especially in the target market for the Z. If you want to remove the radio/NAV/multi-speaker setup, power windows, power/heated seats, luxurious materials on the interior, sound deadening etc. then yeah you could hit a lower target number. But to meet the safety standards and stuff 6 airbags and active head restraints as well as the expectations of customers with sound deadening and technology weight is inevitable.
      I'm well aware of what people want but so are the car manufacturers who are shedding pounds off their cars now. The recent splurge of aluminum and carbon fiber parts aren't thrown on cars just for the hell of it. It's all about saving weight there. What's the sense now of continually increasing engine size when engines are becoming more powerful? Not even higher end companies such as Mercedes and BMW pointing in the direction of continually upping the size of their engines.

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      04-25-2012 03:21 PM #28
      Quote Originally Posted by Inspector Detector View Post
      I'm well aware of what people want but so are the car manufacturers who are shedding pounds off their cars now. The recent splurge of aluminum and carbon fiber parts aren't thrown on cars just for the hell of it. It's all about saving weight there. What's the sense now of continually increasing engine size when engines are becoming more powerful? Not even higher end companies such as Mercedes and BMW pointing in the direction of continually upping the size of their engines.
      I'm still having trouble understanding how the 370Z is considered "heavy" by any stretch? Please name a 2012 car model with that many amenities and features for sub $50k that's 2500lbs and 332HP. Also, Nissan clearly doesn't care about weight. Please tell me what the 370's driveshaft is made out of?

    4. 04-25-2012 05:49 PM #29
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      No ****.

      There is 40 years between the two cars. Please name a production car that has been around for 40 years and weighs the same or is within 10% of its original weight?

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      In 1973, the Mustang 351cj weighed ~3680lbs 'dry' with 266hp/301ftlbs.

      Today, a much faster V6 mustang weighs 3400lbs 'wet' with the much more powerful V8 GT weighing in at 3533lbs.

      I think a Ford Mustang certainly qualifies as one of the most common production car of the last 40 years.
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      04-26-2012 07:24 AM #30
      Quote Originally Posted by Adam144 View Post
      I'm still having trouble understanding how the 370Z is considered "heavy" by any stretch? Please name a 2012 car model with that many amenities and features for sub $50k that's 2500lbs and 332HP. Also, Nissan clearly doesn't care about weight. Please tell me what the 370's driveshaft is made out of?
      Why shouldn't Nissan care about weight then when it works against them or should I say why is BMW for example choosing to put a smaller engine in the next generation M3 this time around when it would be so much easier to put more cubic inches under the hood and up the anti? http://www.worldcarfans.com/10903201...ries-m-is-a-go

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      04-26-2012 08:45 AM #31
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      04-26-2012 08:49 AM #32
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      04-26-2012 09:01 AM #33
      The 370Z was already lighter than the 350Z, right?

      I wouldn't be surprised by a smaller displacement, new generation V6 to replace the VQ, but still make similar power, while dropping a touch more weight like they did the last time around.

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      04-26-2012 12:24 PM #34
      i would love for the straight 6 to come back but it wont.

      my vote is with a 3ish liter turbo.
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      04-26-2012 02:19 PM #35
      Quote Originally Posted by The Holy Molar View Post
      I wish they'd bring back the RB26 and stuff one of those in the new Z.
      That engine is an emission's nightmare which is why a variant of it has not been further developed and stuffed into the R35.

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      04-26-2012 02:42 PM #36
      my educated guess is that they will keep both the 370z moniker and the current engine displacement. The current VQ makes plenty of power - the main complaints have been over NVH and fuel economy. I'm assuming Nissan is working to address these issues, most likely through the use of direct injection technology. I've also read that there are plans to shrink the z even further, so i'm assuming this will be accompanied by a drop in weight. A drop from 3250lbs to 3100lbs seems reasonable if they shrink the size of the car but continue to use a 3.7L v6. I already really like the current model 370z. i would be absolutely ecstatic if nissan released a ~3,100lbs, ~355hp 370z with a modified VQ37 with direct injection.

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      04-26-2012 04:32 PM #37
      Quote Originally Posted by scsuh View Post
      my educated guess is that they will keep both the 370z moniker and the current engine displacement. The current VQ makes plenty of power - the main complaints have been over NVH and fuel economy. I'm assuming Nissan is working to address these issues, most likely through the use of direct injection technology. I've also read that there are plans to shrink the z even further, so i'm assuming this will be accompanied by a drop in weight. A drop from 3250lbs to 3100lbs seems reasonable if they shrink the size of the car but continue to use a 3.7L v6. I already really like the current model 370z. i would be absolutely ecstatic if nissan released a ~3,100lbs, ~355hp 370z with a modified VQ37 with direct injection.

      source: i like to troll around the interwebz for new car news.
      Making the current engine more efficient is another possibility too. I was thinking maybe Nissan can do what the Germans are doing now and call it a 370Z which would lead you to believe they're using the 3.7 liter V6 but they actually installed a smaller engine under the hood

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      04-26-2012 04:51 PM #38
      If they downsize then they might have to rename the car unless they want to come out with another 300ZX or 280Z etc..I think it'll most likely stay a 370Z or maybe move up to a 380Z

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      04-26-2012 04:57 PM #39
      Quote Originally Posted by Inspector Detector View Post
      That would be nice but the typical ego driven Z customer might take some offence to having a tiny 4 banger under the hood, even if it does churn out more HP than the original 240Z did. The Z could certainly get by without its signature long hood with a engine that small too, even though it just wouldn't resemble a Z car then. I know right from the start it was that Jag E-Type look that attracted so many buyers to begin with. I can't forget how Datsun couldn't keep the original 240Z on the showroom floor when it first came out and buyers were happy to pay over sticker for it back then.
      Keep in mind that you don't buy a Nissan Z car to have 45mpg. Also, having a 4cyl that makes 330+hp would be ridiculous due to lag in a sport car
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      04-26-2012 05:33 PM #40
      Quote Originally Posted by MightyDSM View Post
      Keep in mind that you don't buy a Nissan Z car to have 45mpg. Also, having a 4cyl that makes 330+hp would be ridiculous due to lag in a sport car
      The new genesis coupe makes 275 ft/lbs before 2000RPM. With newer turbo/engine technology, do you really think the lag would be that bad? Turbo lag is a thing of the past. However, I really don't see Nissan using anything other than a six cylinder, albeit possibly smaller than the current one, in the Z.

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      04-26-2012 06:00 PM #41
      Quote Originally Posted by MightyDSM View Post
      Keep in mind that you don't buy a Nissan Z car to have 45mpg. Also, having a 4cyl that makes 330+hp would be ridiculous due to lag in a sport car
      A 330 HP 4 banger would eat lots of fuel anyhow, witness the WRX STI. Just another reason why one of Nissan's best strategies is to lighten the Z. You could install a smaller engine in it after that without doing much if any damage.

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      04-26-2012 08:13 PM #42
      Quote Originally Posted by Inspector Detector View Post
      A 330 HP 4 banger would eat lots of fuel anyhow, witness the WRX STI. Just another reason why one of Nissan's best strategies is to lighten the Z. You could install a smaller engine in it after that without doing much if any damage.
      Yes. That is one aspect people don't always get, more displacement does not necessarily mean more fuel. In fact, increasing displacement slightly and broadening the torque curve can increase mileage, especially highway.

      From what I read, a slight increase in displacement wouldn't be a surprise. Nothing drastic, but possibly a bump to 3.8 to match the Genesis Coupe and a little more headroom for compression and HP. Direct injection for sure.

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