Revo tune for tsi engine

[vwsizematters]

Hey, I'm wondering if anyone has gotten the revo tune that has a tsi engine. I'd like to ask what our numbers are.

How much horsepower gain did you recieve and torque, psi level and the peak psi.

The websight for revo states numbers for a Audi ecu, how close are these numbers when compared to a Volkswagen?

I would really appreciate any information thank you

[Aonarch]

Ask DubbinDurim

He has GIAC.

revotechnik.com?

[vwsizematters]

I been all over revo and google searching. The numbers they have posted are for Audi not one mention of the gti ecu tune, it does gives tsi numbers of torque and horsepower.

[GoLfUnV]

I had beta stage 1 tune, and i made some crazy #s(more than average but i cannot remember now), this was back in 2010. It is my understanding their current tune is milder. Currently i have stg2, last time car was on a dynojet it posted 249/298 whp/wtq. I hope this helps.

EDIT:I was looking for my dyno graphs, and i came across this one. I am pretty sure something is wrong here, but its the only one i found.

[vwsizematters]

Although your stage 2 it does give me some idea of what I could make. I called my closest revo software distributor. His quote was around 47hp gain/ and I believe he said 60 torque. That could b wrong may have only been 50 do these numbers I just stated make since to anyone? Cause that's a lot of torque gain, I was assuming it was gonna b around 30 hp gain and 30 torque gain.

Also what are your psi levels on stage one?

[GoLfUnV]

50/60 hp/tq gain he is reffering to is not whp/wtq(dyno#), so that sounds about right. I do not have boost gauge so i can not tell you what my PSI reedings were.

[vwsizematters]

Ok thanks, yeah I know it wasn't wheel horsepower. But ok thanks.

[jhnr]

They're tune is on the more aggressive side, be careful.

[Hornblower]

Haven't gotten it on the dyno, either before or after REVO Stage 1, but the dealer claimed I should see about 50 HP increase. So, I guess I can't prove anything specifically but the performance is night and day different. The car was fun to begin with but now, it's just an outright blast. It certainly feels like an additional 50 HP. I'm running performance option B on Stage 1. I also purchased the SPS module so I can flash back to stock or up to option C if needed. One thing I have to watch out for now is rapidly wearing front tires. I guess I'll be doing more tire rotations than normal. One thing is for sure, there is no going back to stock after this.

[Blaylock1988]

Anything but Dynojet. They have an internal calculation error that gives erroneous readings up to 20% higher than actual. Correction factors also make a huge difference as well.

[vwsizematters]

So your saying revo is on the more aggressive side? Compared to who may I ask? And what am I looking out for lol you can't lead me to a hypothetical problem that could arise and not give me any information based on it it's like watching a show that turns out to be continued. Lol

[vwsizematters]

I had beta stage 1 tune, and i made some crazy #s(more than average but i cannot remember now), this was back in 2010. It is my understanding their current tune is milder. Currently i have stg2, last time car was on a dynojet it posted 249/298 whp/wtq. I hope this helps.

EDIT:I was looking for my dyno graphs, and i came across this one. I am pretty sure something is wrong here, but its the only one i found.

This is what is being said for wheel horsepower? From a stage 1 tune?

[jhnr]

^ thats no way stage 2. thats more like KO4 territory

[GoLfUnV]

^ thats no way stage 2. thats more like KO4 territory

That is stage two, but if i remember correctly those are adjusted #s, before adjusting it was around 249whp/298wtq

[StylinVR6]

So your saying revo is on the more aggressive side? Compared to who may I ask? And what am I looking out for lol you can't lead me to a hypothetical problem that could arise and not give me any information based on it it's like watching a show that turns out to be continued. Lol

APR-weak
UNI-Good
REVO-Too much

From what ive gathered on all these threads

[vwsizematters]

I don't know what too much means. But if it's power I really enjoy the revo.
Still have to go to the Dino sometime and check it out I guess myself.

[jhnr]

That is stage two, but if i remember correctly those are adjusted #s, before adjusting it was around 249whp/298wtq

[StylinVR6]

I don't know what too much means. But if it's power I really enjoy the revo.
Still have to go to the Dino sometime and check it out I guess myself.

From my understanding its too aggressive. Yeah it makes more power but its not a "safe" power. I could be wrong though.

[Aonarch]

^ How would you know?

[StylinVR6]

^ How would you know?

Thats what ive taken in from reading all the tuning threads... Like I said, I could be wrong.

How would you know any different ?

[Aonarch]

Thats what ive taken in from reading all the tuning threads... Like I said, I could be wrong.

How would you know any different ?

Umm because I have/ had Revo and APR?

You can't just go blurting out crap that you have read on a forum acting like it is true.

Unsafe? WTF? You obviously have no idea what you are talking about and I will end this argument here. If you would like to continue this will be one sided.

[StylinVR6]

Umm because I have/ had Revo and APR?

You can't just go blurting out crap that you have read on a forum acting like it is true.

Unsafe? WTF? You obviously have no idea what you are talking about and I will end this argument here. If you would like to continue this will be one sided.

Its not that I read one forum and said dang thats the truth. Ive read several threads about it and im still not saying its the truth. Sorry to hurt ur feelings about you having revo. Ive talked to a couple distributors here in Colorado and both have told me Revo is a little aggressive. Even a Revo distributor told me its the most aggressive tune. Im not arguing, or taking sides. Im just stating what ive heard/read.

[GoLfUnV]

Its not that I read one forum and said dang thats the truth. Ive read several threads about it and im still not saying its the truth. Sorry to hurt ur feelings about you having revo. Ive talked to a couple distributors here in Colorado and both have told me Revo is a little aggressive. Even a Revo distributor told me its the most aggressive tune. Im not arguing, or taking sides. Im just stating what ive heard/read.

Based on your well informed self, can you please elaborate and tell us what does "too aggressive" mean, and why it is bad?

Thanks you.

[chubs625]

Based on your well informed self, can you please elaborate and tell us what does "too aggressive" mean, and why it is bad?

Thanks you.

This is why I went revo!

;-/

[StylinVR6]

Based on your well informed self, can you please elaborate and tell us what does "too aggressive" mean, and why it is bad?

Thanks you.

You guys are blowing this out of proportion. Im not sure how many times ive said "I COULD BE WRONG" if im wrong simply state it with proof that apparently im misinformed.

[GoLfUnV]

You guys are blowing this out of proportion. Im not sure how many times ive said "I COULD BE WRONG" if im wrong simply state it with proof that apparently im misinformed.

not blowing anything out of proportion, i asked why do you think revo is too aggressive, and why does it make a worst product than Uni or APR? if you don't have anything to back up this statement please do not spread misinformation, because tomorrow someone is going to read your posts and take it as a fact.

I am not saying revo is better than the other two big players in the game, because i cannot back it up, but i know that for the price of APR stage 1 tune you can go revo stage 2 and buy catless DP.

[StylinVR6]

I thought revo was aggressive based on what people have said.

I had beta stage 1 tune, and i made some crazy #s(more than average but i cannot remember now), this was back in 2010. It is my understanding their current tune is milder.

Its possible they dummied down their tunes, who knows.

[not JDM]

Umm because I have/ had Revo and APR?

which do you prefer? Is Revo really more aggressive?

I want a legit opinion here, finally getting around to going Stage 1 pretty soon.

[StopSweatinMe]

which do you prefer? Is Revo really more aggressive?

I want a legit opinion here, finally getting around to going Stage 1 pretty soon.

There is a thread on here where APR shows that the REVO tune alters some of the safety features built into the factory tune. They are supposedly the only company of the 4 to do so.

I'm pretty set on the GIAC tune for 2 reasons. AWE is very close to me. And I had a GIAC tune on my 01vr6 which was great, plus trouble free.

[not JDM]

There is a thread on here where APR shows that the REVO tune alters some of the safety features built into the factory tune. They are supposedly the only company of the 4 to do so.

I'm pretty set on the GIAC tune for 2 reasons. AWE is very close to me. And I had a GIAC tune on my 01vr6 which was great, plus trouble free.

tried searching, couldn't find that thread.

from revo's site: "Revo Software works in harmony with the vehicle, maximising the safe potentional from the standard hardware whilst always working within factory safety parameters and retaining smoothness, reliability and fuel economy."

I'm still leaning towards them

[StopSweatinMe]

tried searching, couldn't find that thread.

from revo's site: "Revo Software works in harmony with the vehicle, maximising the safe potentional from the standard hardware whilst always working within factory safety parameters and retaining smoothness, reliability and fuel economy."

I'm still leaning towards them

It's here. In that thread there is a link to the audi forum where this comes to light. Arin from apr finds something on the revo tune that shows the knock correction is alerted by revo. Maybe try searching the audi forum.

However, I'm not knocking revo by any means. None of their cars are dying. Heck, if AWE only dealt revo, I'd probably go revo. My thing is, I would like the flash done by a reputable dealer so if something does go wrong I know that I have their support nearby. The only thing that scares me about being reflashed is the stock clutch. No way I want to spend $1500 for a replacement.

[GoLfUnV]

It's here. In that thread there is a link to the audi forum where this comes to light. Arin from apr finds something on the revo tune that shows the knock correction is alerted by revo. Maybe try searching the audi forum.

However, I'm not knocking revo by any means. None of their cars are dying. Heck, if AWE only dealt revo, I'd probably go revo. My thing is, I would like the flash done by a reputable dealer so if something does go wrong I know that I have their support nearby. The only thing that scares me about being reflashed is the stock clutch. No way I want to spend $1500 for a replacement.

Arin also claims their products are tested and run on their race cars, but if you know anything about series they race you will know its BS.

There was a thread out there, where this electrical engineer from MIT found that APR tune will fry your ECU, withing 45K miles from the time you flash your car. Try searching on technical forum, it was posted couple years ago.

Now as far as your clutch is concerned you don't need to spend 1500 on a new clutch, all you need is $400, and no i am not going to make you search because it is a fact and not a BS post like yours. http://www.futrellautowerks.com/SBC-...Disk-P167.aspx

PS thing about APR ECUs frying is BS, but it holds as much credibility as your posts.

[Aonarch]

Testing the tune on their racecars is legitinot. Stock drivetrain and motor mandatory.

[chris@revotechnik]

It's here. In that thread there is a link to the audi forum where this comes to light. Arin from apr finds something on the revo tune that shows the knock correction is alerted by revo. Maybe try searching the audi forum.

A competitor makes an accusation they cannot backup.. shocking!

Encryptions a bitch and their "proof" does nothing more then show they never actually found where we hid our maps .

You'll also notice they are careful to not claim they never do anything like that themselves in some applications..


As for race car testing? cannot be compared to a street tune. The classes require specific fuel (98 octane for conti I believe) to be run and boost must be at a level that the sanctioning body deemed "stockish" they usually pick a peak boost of say 12psi, this can then change depending on your performance. Do too well they will take boost away, add weight that sort of thing. We've run cars in the same series that they do and have to follow those same restrictions, the tunes in those car resemble in no way what you would buy for your street car. Even if they were running similar calibrations to street cars even the poor teams are tearing down engines between races and rebuilding them, not exactly what you are doing on your commuter.

[Aonarch]

A competitor makes an accusation they cannot backup.. shocking!

Encryptions a bitch and their "proof" does nothing more then show they never actually found where we hid our maps .

You'll also notice they are careful to not claim they never do anything like that themselves in some applications..


As for race car testing? cannot be compared to a street tune. The classes require specific fuel (98 octane for conti I believe) to be run and boost must be at a level that the sanctioning body deemed "stockish" they usually pick a peak boost of say 12psi, this can then change depending on your performance. Do too well they will take boost away, add weight that sort of thing. We've run cars in the same series that they do and have to follow those same restrictions, the tunes in those car resemble in no way what you would buy for your street car. Even if they were running similar calibrations to street cars even the poor teams are tearing down engines between races and rebuilding them, not exactly what you are doing on your commuter.

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