The Official APR UK Golf R Results Thread

[Arin@APR]

From Keith@APR - Head of our new APR owned operation in the UK.

Hello Everyone,

There has been quite a bit of a stir going on as of late regarding APR's v3.1 ECU Recalibration for factory equipped Ko4 turbocharger engines.

APR has recently released v3.1 for all ED30/Pirelli Edition's, SLC R's, Golf R's, Scirocco R's, TT-S' and S3's developed, tested and approved for the UK market.

APR UK's Golf R was the primary development car so we will start with the results of it thus far.

2010 VW Golf R DSG Stage 2+

APR v3.1 ECU Recalibration
APR High Pressure Fuel Pump
VWR Induction System
VWR Turboback Exhaust
VWR Anti-roll Bars
VWR Lower Engine Mount
VWR Coilover Suspension
VWR Braking System
Haldex Performance Controller

Our first timed testing event was a few weeks ago at Santa Pod Raceway with yours truly behind the wheel:



Some of you may have seen Jonny's thread here http://www.vagoc.co.uk/vb/showthread...0722&showall=1 and as we had planned to run the Golf R at the MLR 30-130mph day we ended up at Bruntingthorpe instead.



With Jonny Cocker behind the wheel and some help with the launches from a wet surface we were able to achieve the following:

0-60 MPH - 3.5 Seconds!


Quarter Mile - 11.9 @ 115.5 MPH!


As we finish up our dyno installation project at our office in Milton Keynes, we will release Official Power Figures for v3.1 but here are some unofficial results in the meantime:

SEAT Leon Cupra R Stage 2+ APR v3.1 APR HPFP in Denmark:



Please feel free to update this thread with any other performance measurements you may have achieved with APR's v3.1.* Eventually I will build a database in this thread to document all of the various dyno graphs, 0-60 times, 1/4 mile times, etc.

Follow the UK thread here: http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/in...html#msg538238

[Time for a GTI]

Those are some impressive numbers.

[asylum]

I agree!

[jsausley]

0-60 in 3.5 seconds?

Wow. Is v3.1 a currently a UK-only new release? Assuming that's something that hasn't come here yet, if I'm reading that correctly.

[TLud]

Wow. Is v3.1 a currently a UK-only new release? Assuming that's something that hasn't come here yet, if I'm reading that correctly.

+1. I'd be interesting in knowing how v3.1 is different from what is currently on my car and whether v3.1 will be available when I go to Stage 2+ in the next few weeks. Thanks, Arin.

[jsausley]

Also important to notice, as it should be obvious but it took a few seconds to click... that 0-60 time is with a DSG car.

Ah, the power of DSG. Fair to say we won't be seeing anywhere near 3.5 seconds with our H-pattern cars.

[Arin@APR]

0-60 in 3.5 seconds?

Wow. Is v3.1 a currently a UK-only new release? Assuming that's something that hasn't come here yet, if I'm reading that correctly.

V3.1 is what you guys get in the US.

Also important to notice, as it should be obvious but it took a few seconds to click... that 0-60 time is with a DSG car.

Ah, the power of DSG. Fair to say we won't be seeing anywhere near 3.5 seconds with our H-pattern cars.

DSG is amazing. One thing I would like to point out is this is on a STOCK DSG with STOCK DSG software. Some silly companies out there tell you DSG software is required.

[TLud]

V3.1 is what you guys get in the US.

Wow, so low to mid-4 second 0-60 times should be very possible with Stage 2+?

[Bakerrrr]

I would also assume that the Haldex controller is helping a tiny bit with putting the power down that quickly.

Good work

[Arin@APR]

Wow, so low to mid-4 second 0-60 times should be very possible with Stage 2+?

I don't see why not!

[jsausley]

I still don't have the guts to launch mine from 6,000 but it's great knowing that the R could, theoretically, be capable of getting into the low 4's without any major upgrades.

[TLud]

I still don't have the guts to launch mine from 6,000 but it's great knowing that the R could, theoretically, be capable of getting into the low 4's without any major upgrades.

+1

[GTIVRon]

Pshh that's nothing.

On TopGear I saw an air-cooled beetle do 0-60 in like 2.7sec when it was racing a Porsche. And the beetle looked pretty much stock.

[Time for a GTI]

Pshh that's nothing.

On TopGear I saw an air-cooled beetle do 0-60 in like 2.7sec when it was racing a Porsche. And the beetle looked pretty much stock.

Gravity will do that

[GTIVRon]

Gravity will do that

I heard the 2013 Golf R can accelerate at 1g too.

[TLud]

I heard the 2013 Golf R can accelerate at 1g too.

[jsausley]

air-cooled beetle

Hahahaha...

[GTIVRon]

Hahahaha...

Prefer to call them oil-cooled?

[jsausley]

Prefer to call them oil-cooled?

I just thought of all the "air" that was "cooling" that Beetle while it was falling toward the earth.

[tmoe]

Arin,

Any chance APR going to post 1/4 time for USA APR cars running stage 2+, I'd be interested to see how they compare to the UK DSG?

No matter, the stage 2+ upgrade is a ton of fun to drive.

For conservative driving any thoughts on how long the stock clutch will handle the power, should I plan on upgrading?

I just changed out my subframe mount on my R32 with the VWR mount and it really helped, much better than the HPA mount I had, seems like a change to consider for the R, have you guys tried it?

Last, which Haldex Performance Controller is APR using in the UK?

From Keith@APR - Head of our new APR owned operation in the UK.

Hello Everyone,

There has been quite a bit of a stir going on as of late regarding APR's v3.1 ECU Recalibration for factory equipped Ko4 turbocharger engines.

APR has recently released v3.1 for all ED30/Pirelli Edition's, SLC R's, Golf R's, Scirocco R's, TT-S' and S3's developed, tested and approved for the UK market.

APR UK's Golf R was the primary development car so we will start with the results of it thus far.

2010 VW Golf R DSG Stage 2+

APR v3.1 ECU Recalibration
APR High Pressure Fuel Pump
VWR Induction System
VWR Turboback Exhaust
VWR Anti-roll Bars
VWR Lower Engine Mount
VWR Coilover Suspension
VWR Braking System
Haldex Performance Controller

Our first timed testing event was a few weeks ago at Santa Pod Raceway with yours truly behind the wheel:



Some of you may have seen Jonny's thread here http://www.vagoc.co.uk/vb/showthread...0722&showall=1 and as we had planned to run the Golf R at the MLR 30-130mph day we ended up at Bruntingthorpe instead.



With Jonny Cocker behind the wheel and some help with the launches from a wet surface we were able to achieve the following:

0-60 MPH - 3.5 Seconds!


Quarter Mile - 11.9 @ 115.5 MPH!


As we finish up our dyno installation project at our office in Milton Keynes, we will release Official Power Figures for v3.1 but here are some unofficial results in the meantime:

SEAT Leon Cupra R Stage 2+ APR v3.1 APR HPFP in Denmark:



Please feel free to update this thread with any other performance measurements you may have achieved with APR's v3.1.* Eventually I will build a database in this thread to document all of the various dyno graphs, 0-60 times, 1/4 mile times, etc.

Follow the UK thread here: http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/in...html#msg538238

[climbingcue]

Good info in this post, would like to know what the stock clutch setup will handle power wise...

[Arin@APR]

Arin,

Any chance APR going to post 1/4 time for USA APR cars running stage 2+, I'd be interested to see how they compare to the UK DSG?

It's not every day we hit the strip but this may be possible. I know for sure our customers will thought and I'll be glad to share their results!

For conservative driving any thoughts on how long the stock clutch will handle the power, should I plan on upgrading?

On the MK5 GTI I had customers upgrading to a K04 (same turbo as the Golf R) with over 80K miles and still driving just fine. I think it comes down to the driver, but other than that I don't have any reliable data to say how long it will last.

I just changed out my subframe mount on my R32 with the VWR mount and it really helped, much better than the HPA mount I had, seems like a change to consider for the R, have you guys tried it?

Yes, we have. It's probably the best mount upgrade you can make. The side engine/trans mounts are pretty extreme in comparison. They will take up the rest of the slop and still retain daily driveability but if you want the best bang for your buck, least increase in vibration for a good reduction in engine movement, this is the way to go.

Last, which Haldex Performance Controller is APR using in the UK?

I'm not sure but I'll get all that data for you!

[sup_lado]

Subscribed!!

[tmoe]

Excellent! Thanks for the quick update

It's not every day we hit the strip but this may be possible. I know for sure our customers will thought and I'll be glad to share their results!



On the MK5 GTI I had customers upgrading to a K04 (same turbo as the Golf R) with over 80K miles and still driving just fine. I think it comes down to the driver, but other than that I don't have any reliable data to say how long it will last.



Yes, we have. It's probably the best mount upgrade you can make. The side engine/trans mounts are pretty extreme in comparison. They will take up the rest of the slop and still retain daily driveability but if you want the best bang for your buck, least increase in vibration for a good reduction in engine movement, this is the way to go.



I'm not sure but I'll get all that data for you!

[GK625]

Subscribed! What amazing numbers!