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    04-24-2012 11:59 PM #1
    anyone know which springs are stiffer, H&R race springs, or the ST coilover springs?

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    04-25-2012 07:19 PM #2
    my spring is the hardest for you

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    04-25-2012 07:51 PM #3
    I have some H&R race springs to sell.

  4. 04-25-2012 10:02 PM #4
    I'm definitely the stiffest right now

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    04-25-2012 11:12 PM #5
    God damn you really know how to pick a thread name.

    I'm going with H&R, since my ST's are bouncy as f*ck
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  6. 04-25-2012 11:45 PM #6
    Quote Originally Posted by NeedingAnAudi View Post
    God damn you really know how to pick a thread name.

    I'm going with H&R, since my ST's are bouncy as f*ck
    My sts are retty ****ing stiff but I still have helper springs

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    04-26-2012 12:02 AM #7
    Quote Originally Posted by ThatA4T View Post
    My sts are retty ****ing stiff but I still have helper springs
    http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=...type=3&theater

    idk if you can see this but every bump i hit the car bounces multiple times. I want h&r ultra lows at this point. Sick of the bounce, but I love 22 1/4
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    04-26-2012 12:12 AM #8
    Quote Originally Posted by NeedingAnAudi View Post
    http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=...type=3&theater

    idk if you can see this but every bump i hit the car bounces multiple times. I want h&r ultra lows at this point. Sick of the bounce, but I love 22 1/4
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  9. 04-26-2012 01:44 AM #9
    I'm super duper stiff when I visit spankwire.com....lol
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    04-26-2012 01:59 AM #10
    I cant see... :'(


    I want to know how to get stiffer springs for my PSS9s

    Good luck getting it as stiff as you can handle!

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    04-26-2012 07:11 AM #11
    Www.hypercoil.com
    Best race springs on the market. That's how I upgraded my coils on my b5.
    My dad runs them in his race car and so do I.
    They make springs for everything.
    Now get the thing stiff
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    05-10-2012 08:41 PM #13
    link fail

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    05-10-2012 09:27 PM #14
    James i'd keep the STs. you felt how my car drove. its pretty stiff.

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    05-11-2012 12:02 AM #15
    Bouncy-ness isn't related to the spring as much as the fact that your dampers are not doing their job...

    In fact, the harder your springs, they more the car should bounce back upward after compression. It's the shock absorber's job to control that.

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    05-11-2012 06:35 AM #16
    http://www.hypercoils.com/
    Link fixed
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    05-11-2012 06:42 AM #17
    Quote Originally Posted by Angrypanda View Post
    Bouncy-ness isn't related to the spring as much as the fact that your dampers are not doing their job...

    In fact, the harder your springs, they more the car should bounce back upward after compression. It's the shock absorber's job to control that.
    But 90% of the guys with lowered a4 are on budget coils. Aka preset dampers
    But you are correct damper and rebound settings make the ride
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    05-11-2012 12:11 PM #18
    Quote Originally Posted by NeedingAnAudi View Post
    http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=...type=3&theater

    idk if you can see this but every bump i hit the car bounces multiple times. I want h&r ultra lows at this point. Sick of the bounce, but I love 22 1/4
    I have to agree. The rides been terrible for me also.

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    05-11-2012 12:59 PM #19
    Apparently Raceland coils are the stiffest...I'm debating them.

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    05-11-2012 01:21 PM #20
    ^^and the most garbage coils you can buy. youre better off with just springs in that case

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    05-11-2012 01:23 PM #21
    Quote Originally Posted by b5blazing View Post
    http://www.hypercoils.com/
    Link fixed
    Best springs on the market
    you by chance have part numbers for the ones to use on a4 coilovers?

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    05-11-2012 03:00 PM #22
    How exactly do spring rates and shock dampening effect each other? For example: The stiffer the spring the more dampening you'll need to avoid bounce?

    I'm a little lost on it.

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    05-11-2012 03:25 PM #23
    My STs are pretty stiff. They dont bounce like Alex's at all.
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    05-11-2012 04:13 PM #24
    i liked some of these responses heres my situation, i just bought ST's, and i have a set of h&r race springs as well. right now theyre on my vmaxx struts. i want to see if i can make them any better than they already are before i install them. and the race springs on hand make it very cost effective
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    05-11-2012 07:01 PM #25
    Quote Originally Posted by silvermannn View Post
    How exactly do spring rates and shock dampening effect each other? For example: The stiffer the spring the more dampening you'll need to avoid bounce?

    I'm a little lost on it.
    Start here: http://auto.howstuffworks.com/car-suspension2.htm

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    05-11-2012 07:54 PM #26
    Quote Originally Posted by MarcMiller View Post
    My STs are pretty stiff. They dont bounce like Alex's at all.
    I'm almost certain it's because you are a 2.8 and the dampening and spring rates are better suited to that weight. N-Brod told me his ST's rode fine also.
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    05-12-2012 09:22 AM #27
    Quote Originally Posted by Angrypanda View Post
    Maybe I missed it but what I was looking for is not in there....

  27. 05-12-2012 11:09 AM #28
    I am running with the first version of the ST coilovers, where they had different spring rates for the 1.8t and 2.8/S4 engine. I opted for the B5 S4 sedan units. A couple of is 1.8T B5 A4 guys did that. My front spring rate is 690 lbs/in and the rears are progressive. No bounce and the ride is not bad at all. Of course, weight and heavy dips in the road at higher speed changes everything. These units never had helper springs, and I have noticed people don't like the revised units that ST now sells. I also have a lifetime warranty on mine.

    GB thread a lot of AZ members got theirs from, including me: http://www.audizine.com/forum/showth...ST-PRICES-EVER!

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    05-14-2012 06:51 AM #29
    Quote Originally Posted by silvermannn View Post
    How exactly do spring rates and shock dampening effect each other? For example: The stiffer the spring the more dampening you'll need to avoid bounce?

    I'm a little lost on it.
    For Silverman
    The higher stiffer spring rate needs a stiffer rebound damper , rebound damper is the force holding the spring in place as it expands...

    All struts coil overs unless damper adjustable have preset stiffness, we all **** ourselfs when we dump are cars pull helper springs. Run them on the lowest possible thread.
    When you adjust your coil overs, your messing with the springs preload. Preload is good.

    I'm pulling my car apart next week to finish Rwd conversion. I can grab part numbers than. I'm on 600lb rears and 900lb fronts or so first set I bought I was way wrong f/r were over 1000lbs each car felt like ****
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    05-14-2012 07:24 AM #30
    Quote Originally Posted by NeedingAnAudi View Post
    I'm almost certain it's because you are a 2.8 and the dampening and spring rates are better suited to that weight. N-Brod told me his ST's rode fine also.
    My ST's are also fine. If you want them stiffer try getting the ST S4 springs. At least the early version (possibly all of them) are not progressive in the rear.
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    05-14-2012 10:40 AM #31
    Quote Originally Posted by .Mad Hatter. View Post
    My ST's are also fine. If you want them stiffer try getting the ST S4 springs. At least the early version (possibly all of them) are not progressive in the rear.
    I have the new style ones unfortunately, which are the same part number for 1.8t 2.8 and 2.7. Idk I'm looking into custom coils now specifically for riding very low. I mean, I am a fabricator.
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    05-16-2012 06:45 AM #32
    Quote Originally Posted by NeedingAnAudi View Post
    I have the new style ones unfortunately, which are the same part number for 1.8t 2.8 and 2.7. Idk I'm looking into custom coils now specifically for riding very low. I mean, I am a fabricator.
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    06-15-2012 07:38 PM #33
    I'm looking to sell my h&r race springs for $150. I'm making a Thread now, hmu
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    06-16-2012 05:11 AM #34
    Quote Originally Posted by b5blazing View Post
    I'm on 600lb rears and 900lb fronts or so first set I bought I was way wrong f/r were over 1000lbs each car felt like ****
    Is that for track only or street use as well?
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    06-16-2012 03:10 PM #35
    waaait a minute. i have two sets of STs. one for a 2.8 and the set on my 1.8.... can i swap springs? the 2.8's are stiffer. or is that a sillyyyyy inquiry?
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