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    Thread: TCL: what sports car THAT YOU CAN AFFORD would you buy new and never sell?

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      04-26-2012 05:12 PM #101
      Quote Originally Posted by IgorRGTI View Post
      Stop it with the common sense, it's just not cool!!!!!!
      Don't bother. He's the same guy who got up in my **** when I mentioned in another thread that I liked both a $1200 watch and a $4000 watch and that I couldn't decide which I'd opt for when I finally decided to pull the trigger. He couldn't wrap his head around it and proceeded to accuse me of lying and not being able to afford it.

      He poo-poos people who judge and make assumptions about the financial decisions/situations of others, and then proceeds to do the exact same thing.
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      04-26-2012 05:20 PM #102
      Nothing that I can think of. For every reasonalby priced sports car that I can think of I can think of a better used car for the same price. And I have a hard time holding onto cars for very long

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      04-26-2012 07:25 PM #103
      Quote Originally Posted by Adam144 View Post
      I'm not questioning HOW anyone spends their money. That's their business. If you're an enthusiast on these forums and you can afford a car that you'd love to keep for 40 years chances are you already own it. If you can afford it then why the hell wouldn't you own it? The hypothetical context of the question doesn't make any sense.
      For exactly the scenario you descibe. Let's say you're a car enthusiast and you've allotted a certain amount of your income to the hobby. This is disposable income - spending it won't affect any other area of your life. The kids will still be able to go to college, you won't lose the house. You and the Mrs will still be able to keep your daily drivers, and change them every few years.

      Now, there's a car you like, but it will absorb the entire car-hobby outlay of the budget for years. It means selling the E30 cab restoration you haven't touched in years anyway, no more track days in the spec Miata - to get this car, it will be the sole outlet for your car hobby until it's paid off, and probably a healthy chunk of it after.

      That's the nub of the question - is there a new car out there you'd be willing to put all your car hobby money into? Because it seems to me that's how you wind up with a 1-owner Shelby Cobra or Yenko Camaro - at some point, these car enthusiasts put it all on the line for that one car they thought was special. They put their money where there mouths were. Not in the hopes that they'd wind up with a classic worth millions, like Hank Williams did in the article, but that they'd have one car they always enjoyed no matter what other cars passed thru their lives.

      You can put it down, and TCL often does: everyone here will point out the used exotic you could have had, or how if you'd waited a year or two it'd have been cheaper. When did car enthusiast's dreams become so... shabby?

      The kicker is TCL loves those stories. People posted lots about that guy with the original owner 3.0CS that BMW filmed a while back. No doubt Hank Williams and his one owner Shelby Cobra is making the rounds on the car forums too. But where will the future one-owner classics come from if not TCL?
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      04-26-2012 08:14 PM #104
      Hank Williams came into what was a healthy amount of money at that time and a promising career. I don't think everyday blue collar TCL is quite on par for income.

      However, i appreciate your clarification on the question and I will give some hypothetical thought to what I would buy if I put all my car enthusiast loonies in one basket.
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      yes, i am bored by FWD driving dynamics, and anyone who doesn't drive there cars to the limits and the beyond.

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      04-27-2012 03:07 PM #105
      I have to say that my audi could very well be a car I keep forever. I just couldnt ever see it not being a useful fun car to have. Its a 2.0T 6MT titanium edition car with a stage 3 turbo kit providing the thrills. As a guy that will potentially soon be having kids, I'll need something that keeps me awake while driving and can still handle a car seat. Barring engine failure I dont know what would have me give this car up.

      The FUN fun cars will probably be leases

    6. 04-27-2012 05:00 PM #106
      Quote Originally Posted by Chris Stack View Post
      Nothing says it has to be your only car, or even your only fun car. I plan to keep my S2000 forever, but i also plan to always have a DD, and I dream of parking an NSX or F355 next to it.
      Yeah.. I think what some people are saying is that no matter what car you dd... and no matter what special car you keep in the garage... they'd rather switch both out on a regular basis in the name of experience and variety. And keeping a car so that you "always have it" just doesn't appeal to some other people like liquidating the asset does.

      When I had my s2k I enjoyed the hell out of it.. when I had my kid and I wasn't going to use it as much .. there really was no reason to keep it in the garage while I daily the g8 and haul the baby. I mean.. that's 15k I can liquidate to pay off the new dd car loan or invest... Or have sex on top of.. or whatever. So I sold it. Now that it is gone.. I am really excited about what I might replace it with one day when the kid hits the legal limit of 4 foot 10 inches... Or when I get that third car garage...

      And whatever that car is that I replace it with.. or add in the third slot... I look forward to switching that future car out in a couple years after that as well ... in the name of variety and technological advancement.


      To the moron saying that a true car enthusiast would own the car that he can afford.... I don't think you understand a lot of people's priorities.. or budgets.. or future plans.. or current needs... You said something about this being a ridiculous thread because we'd all have the cars we could afford... certainly even if that is true - there would be some percent of people that were in the act of changing their minds - or switching to a new car that just came out and hadn't gotten around to it yet.

      As a for instance.. I don't plan on keeping a car forever.. so this thread becomes a complete hypothetical for me.. IF I had to keep a car forever and buy one new right now.. what would it be. The cars I own are not dictated by me having to keep them forever. They are what I want right now.... the cars I buy.. and the cars the OP wants to know about are two different beasts.
      Last edited by x1000rpms; 04-27-2012 at 05:09 PM.

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      04-27-2012 05:17 PM #107
      Boss 302, I suppose. Lots of assumptions needed for that though, i.e., my current car note being annulled.

      If I had to keep my current car payment, then nothing.

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      04-27-2012 06:27 PM #108
      Quote Originally Posted by x1000rpms View Post
      Yeah.. I think what some people are saying is that no matter what car you dd... and no matter what special car you keep in the garage... they'd rather switch both out on a regular basis in the name of experience and variety.
      Yep, that's definitely what came thru in most of the responses - that no matter how much someone likes a car, eventually they'll want to try something new. I'm less prone to that mindset since, being single, even my daily driver/second car doesn't have to be that practical. While I plan to keep my M Coupe forever, in the 4 years I've had it I've also owned a Z3 coupe, Solstice GXP, and Boxster S.
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      04-28-2012 12:33 AM #109
      I plan on buying one of these soon and NOT planning on getting rid of it ANYTIME soon. I fear we are approaching another automotive "dark ages" so to speak where CAFE MPG standards, EPA standards, and "being green" is the in thing, a global carbon tax/offset scheme, coupled with the general overall appearance the up and coming generation is gadget and not car minded may put an end to such things in a few years. IDGAF if gas goes to $10 a gallon, I will pay.

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      04-28-2012 03:53 AM #110
      Quote Originally Posted by 02GTIFREESKIER View Post
      I, too, would go with the Scirocco. In silver, because it's actually a rare color on that car for some reason. And because black looks horrible over years. It's not exactly a sportscar with the 1.4-liter turbo, so I'd have to stretch to the 2.0 TDI or the 1.4-l twincharger. Preferably the latter, as, although it has less low-end torque than the TDI, it pulls willingly in the top range, too, making it a lot more fun.
      Last edited by Son; 04-28-2012 at 03:57 AM.
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