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    Thread: Should I buy an FR-S?

    1. Member TooFitToQuit's Avatar
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      04-25-2012 08:42 PM #1
      $1,000 gets me the #1 spot at a local dealer. They said I can order a stripped out 6-speed for under $25K and won't have to get any accessories. I need a car and can hold off for ~5 weeks until it arrives on June 1.

      No kids. No pets. 11 mile commute to work on curvy roads and interstates.

      Thoughts?

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      04-25-2012 08:44 PM #2
      I wouldnt. Personally I take subaru a LOT more seriously than Scion, so i'd head that route if i was going to waste any money at all on this car

      Btw, 185 threads about this car since November 2011 and counting. (yes im really keeping track)

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      04-25-2012 08:45 PM #3
      Quote Originally Posted by RacerrRex View Post
      Nope.


      Btw, 185 threads about this car since November 2011 and counting. (yes im really keeping track)
      and how many people are in a perfect position to buy and receive theirs in five weeks?

    4. 04-25-2012 08:47 PM #4
      From it's purpose, to it's promises, to it's real-life reviews, I wouldn't doubt that it can handle your curvy roads and interstates. That fact that you don't have any kids or pets seems to me that a car like this won't be an issue [if I had no kid on the way, I would justify getting one too if I could afford to]. So I say as long as you can deal with it being bare-bones, go for it, also, you can give the haters & lovers here a personal review of the car yourself. If you do get it, I hope you enjoy it [when it comes in].
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      04-25-2012 08:48 PM #5
      I say do it.

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      04-25-2012 08:50 PM #6
      This is the first car in a very long time that has made me say "I want one."

      If I was considering another car, it'd be between this and an S2000.

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      04-25-2012 08:51 PM #7
      Quote Originally Posted by DTMTrini View Post
      From it's purpose, to it's promises, to it's real-life reviews, I wouldn't doubt that it can handle your curvy roads and interstates. That fact that you don't have any kids or pets seems to me that a car like this won't be an issue [if I had no kid on the way, I would justify getting one too if I could afford to]. So I say as long as you can deal with it being bare-bones, go for it, also, you can give the haters & lovers here a personal review of the car yourself. If you do get it, I hope you enjoy it [when it comes in].
      I had a Mustang that was factory-ordered with ABS/TC delete. It was a freakin riot because of how basic it was.

    8. 04-25-2012 08:55 PM #8
      Quote Originally Posted by RacerrRex View Post
      I wouldnt. Personally I take subaru a LOT more seriously than Scion, so i'd head that route if i was going to waste any money at all on this car

      Btw, 185 threads about this car since November 2011 and counting. (yes im really keeping track)
      What exactly is the difference that makes you choose the Subaru version?



      Quote Originally Posted by MustacheGT View Post
      I had a Mustang that was factory-ordered with ABS/TC delete. It was a freakin riot because of how basic it was.
      Awesome, so I 100% vote to go for it!
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      04-25-2012 08:55 PM #9
      Do it, then get tired of it in 6 weeks and sell it to me for substantially less than you paid!

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      04-25-2012 08:55 PM #10
      Yes, yes I think you should.

      You must immediatly post pictures and give us your initial impressions. I am genuinely curious about this car and want a typical car owners review.

      We need a TCL insider with this vehicle.

      I nominate you.

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      04-25-2012 08:56 PM #11
      I say do it too.
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      04-25-2012 08:57 PM #12
      The only holdback for me would be lack of factory HIDs but I bet you can solve that problem quickly

    13. 04-25-2012 08:58 PM #13
      Quote Originally Posted by RacerrRex View Post
      I wouldnt. Personally I take subaru a LOT more seriously than Scion, so i'd head that route if i was going to waste any money at all on this car

      Btw, 185 threads about this car since November 2011 and counting. (yes im really keeping track)
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      04-25-2012 09:01 PM #14
      Do it.

      Seriously, do it.

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      04-25-2012 09:02 PM #15
      Quote Originally Posted by 2.0T_Convert View Post
      The only holdback for me would be lack of factory HIDs but I bet you can solve that problem quickly
      The BRZ has factory HIDs standard.
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      04-25-2012 09:02 PM #16
      Do it.

      Inside Line says the FR-S is more fun than the BRZ, more oversteer tuned in from the factory.

      They also got a better acceleration time (6.6 vs 7.3)

      Quote Originally Posted by InsideLine

      Sixty miles per hour is reached in 6.6 seconds (6.3 seconds with one foot of rollout like on a drag strip), and the quarter-mile in 14.8 seconds at 93.8 mph. Yes, this result is notably quicker and faster than the BRZ, which did those deeds in 7.3, 7.0, and 15.3 seconds at 92.1, respectively. What's going on?

      The data reveals that the BRZ actually accelerated quicker initially, but at 19 mph the Subaru laid over a bit and the Scion powered ahead and never looked back. The explanation is equal parts launch technique and gearchange speed. The Scion's tire-spinning launch allowed it power through the 4000-rpm torque hole we observed in our dyno testing where the Subaru bogged down briefly. Plus, our BRZ tester was plagued with a finicky 1-2 gearchange which ate up precious time en route to 60 mph.

      The suspension calibration of each car reflects the sensibilities of the two manufacturers: Subaru's customers are accustomed to AWD cars with a lot of stability, and so the BRZ is tuned accordingly. The FR-S's rear suspension is slightly stiffer for less understeer, while the front has a bit less spring rate and revised damper valving to improve steering feel. The remaining suspension components — stabilizer bars, bushing durometers, tires — are identical between the two cars.

      In our testing the FR-S generated 0.88g on the skid pad and turned out a 67.3-mph slalom performance; results that trail those produced by the BRZ we tested. The reason is balance — the FR-S's slightly more tail-happy character makes the numbers less big.
      http://www.insideline.com/scion/fr-s...full-test.html
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      04-25-2012 09:04 PM #17
      I wouldn't, they don't have enough torque to safely pass.
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      04-25-2012 09:08 PM #18
      Quote Originally Posted by Noisyninja View Post
      The BRZ has factory HIDs standard.
      I like the FR-S better aside from the lack of HIDs.

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      04-25-2012 09:09 PM #19
      Quote Originally Posted by 2.0T_Convert View Post
      The only holdback for me would be lack of factory HIDs but I bet you can solve that problem quickly
      The factory HIDs are likely D4S anyways knowing Toyota, so they're poop anyways.

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      04-25-2012 09:10 PM #20
      Quote Originally Posted by B3passatBMX View Post
      I wouldn't, they don't have enough torque to safely pass.
      This. It does not get Teklord's coveted seal of torks approval.

      In all seriousness, though, I would be hestitant about the $1000 fee. If it's worth it to you, and you absolutely NEED a car, then maybe. If it were, I would offer MSRP and balk at any additional fees. But that's just me.

      If this car will make you happy, then do it. We all die somtime. My time might be tomorrow, yours might be next year. Who knows. But if this will bring some enjoyment to your everyday life, and you can comfortably afford, then go for it.

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      04-25-2012 09:11 PM #21
      No for me... Unless you don't have a car now and want one soon, I will never buy first year production. (plus brand new model) Even if it is from Toyota or Honda.
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      04-25-2012 09:12 PM #22
      Quote Originally Posted by SchnellFowVay View Post
      In all seriousness, though, I would be hestitant about the $1000 fee.
      It would be marked as a down payment. MSRP would be paid and no more.

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      04-25-2012 09:12 PM #23
      Quote Originally Posted by Avus View Post
      No for me... Unless you don't have a car now and want one soon, I will never buy first year production. (plus brand new model) Even if it is from Toyota or Honda.
      That is one of my two reservations. The other is I haven't driven one yet.

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      04-25-2012 09:13 PM #24
      Quote Originally Posted by Avus View Post
      No for me... Unless you don't have a car now and want one soon, I will never buy first year production. (plus brand new model) Even if it is from Toyota or Honda.
      That's the one thing that's making me hold off for a few years before I get one.

      But...in this case, our boy MustacheGT goes through cars so quickly, it's probably a moot point.

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      04-25-2012 09:14 PM #25
      Absolutely yes. That is the car the way it was meant to be. Get it and laugh at the rest of us

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      04-25-2012 09:14 PM #26
      Quote Originally Posted by Mosbius Designs View Post
      But...in this case, our boy MustacheGT goes through cars so quickly, it's probably a moot point.
      I had my 2010 Fit for two years, and the only reason I don't still have my 2012 Fit is because it was taken out in that wreck ten days ago.

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      04-25-2012 09:15 PM #27
      Quote Originally Posted by MustacheGT View Post
      $1,000 gets me the #1 spot at a local dealer. They said I can order a stripped out 6-speed for under $25K and won't have to get any accessories. I need a car and can hold off for ~5 weeks until it arrives on June 1.

      No kids. No pets. 11 mile commute to work on curvy roads and interstates.

      Thoughts?
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      04-25-2012 09:16 PM #28
      Quote Originally Posted by MustacheGT View Post
      I had my 2010 Fit for two years, and the only reason I don't still have my 2012 Fit is because it was taken out in that wreck ten days ago.
      I saw the thread, just poking fun.

      Buy the car, I'm extremely jealous.

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      04-25-2012 09:17 PM #29
      Quote Originally Posted by Mosbius Designs View Post
      I saw the thread, just poking fun.

      Buy the car, I'm extremely jealous.
      No worries.

      My other considerations here are another Fit or a Ridgeline Sport. Talk about completely different choices.

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      04-25-2012 09:18 PM #30
      Quote Originally Posted by MustacheGT View Post
      That is one of my two reservations. The other is I haven't driven one yet.
      I custom-ordered my car without ever having driven one (though I did drive a similar 3-series). I was in no way disappointed.

      You can always re-sell the damn thing if you don't like it. These will hold values extremely well while there are still unfulfilled dealer wait lists.

      I am sure that it won't be a 1M, but I wouldn't be surprised if slightly used models of these fetch a premium over MSRP for the first 6 months - 1 year that they are produced.
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      04-25-2012 09:19 PM #31
      Quote Originally Posted by MustacheGT View Post
      My other considerations here are another Fit or a Ridgeline Sport. Talk about completely different choices.

      BOOOOO NOOOOO!!! HISSSSSSS!!!!

      Why didn't you put that in the original post? If those are the other options, then you are an idiot not to buy this thing.
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      04-25-2012 09:21 PM #32
      i would wait until you can test drive it and compare it to the other cars that are around the same price. the magazine reviews are great but you might end up preferring something like a gti, mazdaspeed 3 or mustang v6 that have more horsepower and torque.

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      04-25-2012 09:21 PM #33
      Quote Originally Posted by SchnellFowVay View Post
      BOOOOO NOOOOO!!! HISSSSSSS!!!!

      Why didn't you put that in the original post? If those are the other options, then you are an idiot not to buy this thing.
      I'm fine being called an idiot. I'm still evaluating what I want / need in a car before I spend up to $31k. That makes me not an idiot.

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      04-25-2012 09:22 PM #34
      Quote Originally Posted by sams0n View Post
      i would wait until you can test drive it and compare it to the other cars that are around the same price. the magazine reviews are great but you might end up preferring something like a gti, mazdaspeed 3 or mustang v6 that have more horsepower and torque.
      Loathe VW after owning six. The Speed 3 seems boring. Had a Mustang GT (well, seven).

      I either put down a check to hold one or I wait many months until a dealer actually has one in stock to play with.

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      04-25-2012 09:26 PM #35
      Quote Originally Posted by MustacheGT View Post
      $1,000 gets me the #1 spot at a local dealer. They said I can order a stripped out 6-speed for under $25K and won't have to get any accessories. I need a car and can hold off for ~5 weeks until it arrives on June 1.

      No kids. No pets. 11 mile commute to work on curvy roads and interstates.

      Thoughts?
      I am getting one too in August.

      I am a Miata guy, but the appeal of the BRZ/ Scion is their. I live in the Tail of the Dragon type roads and I drive them everyday, so I need something that can destroy these roads.

      Anyone know how the base seats are going to be?
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