Camaro ZL1's have hit the streets

[Fritz27]

Oh lordy.

Still can't compare to the mad sounds the 6.2 produces though. But damn those power levels are comparable to the V12TT's from not long ago.

The new 5.5TT in the AMG cars sounds pretty sick. They do the V8 badassness its true justice.

Also, for my money, I'm taking the Stang, but I've been a Stang guy forever.

[SCIROCCO SPEED]

the new mustang commercial where the mustang changes colors for whoever is looking at it.... at the end of the commercial, a little girl is looking at it and it turns pink, then black (and the little girl has black angel wings in the reflection)! Yes, that's the one i think looks perfect! Black with cobra badges. I'm a very euro guy, but god damn i want to spend some time in the new stang!

[westsideseal]

So the race is now between the Americans and the Germans. Where are the Japanese in all of this? Other than Nissan, out to lunch . . . .

Japanese are making light, affordable, driver-oriented cars that can be used on the street without triple-digit speeds. Have they ever participated in the horsepower wars?

That said, I'd love to own one of these cars for track use.

[RacerrRex]

750 hp and still running mid 10's. Awesome.


Would hate to come up on one of these in my shiny new ZL1.

Holy

[JustinCSVT]

Have they ever participated in the horsepower wars?

Of course they did. Early 90's.

[muffintop]

I would rather have 6 used s2000's.

[compy222]

I would rather have 6 used s2000's.

GPW AP1 with full red interior
my suzuka blue AP1
An 04 AP2
An 06 AP2
A 08/9 CR AP2
A 2001 AP1 track beater in yellow

[Tuneman7]

The ZL1 looks awesome, I'd have a difficult choice between that and a Corvette GS coupe. The new GT500 was disappointing at the auto show.

[nismo4life]

inb4 $54,000 dollar camaro
inb4 corvette convertible is cheaper
inb4 corvette grand sport is only 2k more
inb4 "I would rather have 2 323 hp camaros"
inb4 "I would rather have 2 Scion FR-S"
inb4 "I would rather have 6 used s2000s"

It is an interesting time to be a car enthusiast for sure.

I'll take option e.

[burntoast9]

last car is the trams am

[Accidental L8 apex]

Japanese are making light, affordable, driver-oriented cars that can be used on the street without triple-digit speeds. Have they ever participated in the horsepower wars?

That said, I'd love to own one of these cars for track use.

Where are these "driver oriented" Japanese cars you speak of and damn if my car isn't solely designed to be "passenger oriented". Sucks too.

[compy222]

The GS coupe corvette is hugely capable for the money, but any options will push it way past just 2k more than the ZL1.

I would assume that they appeal to two distinct parts of the crowd of buyers for a sports car. the corvette being a purer driving experience, smaller, lighter, etc. the camaro fulfilling more roles including having back seats/storage space.

[greatfox]

Hate to say it, but this car does nothing for me. I don't get that fizzing sensation "down there", if you know what I mean.

[ThreadBomber]

Would rather sexy time with GT500

[curvedinfinity]

Hate to say it, but this car does nothing for me. I don't get that fizzing sensation "down there", if you know what I mean.

Ya looking for someone to pour pop down your trousers or something?

[greatfox]

Ya looking for someone to pour pop down your trousers or something?

yes.

[brickfrenzy]

The LSA engine is a hoot. And 600 pounds lighter than my Caddy, it probably performs pretty well too.

[Shomegrown]

The LSA engine is a hoot. And 600 pounds lighter than my Caddy, it probably performs pretty well too.

I'm pretty sure it weighs about the same as your Caddy...

[brickfrenzy]

I'm pretty sure it weighs about the same as your Caddy...

Nope, I looked up the numbers. The CTS-V wagon is 4400 pounds. The standard Camaro is 3800 pounds. I can't imagine that the gofast bits that the ZL1 option package includes are THAT heavy.

[curvedinfinity]

Nope, I looked up the numbers. The CTS-V wagon is 4400 pounds. The standard Camaro is 3800 pounds. I can't imagine that the gofast bits that the ZL1 option package includes are THAT heavy.

The ZL1 is like 4100-4200 lbs

[Green Panzer]

inb4 $54,000 dollar camaro
inb4 corvette convertible is cheaper
inb4 corvette grand sport is only 2k more
inb4 "I would rather have 2 323 hp camaros"
inb4 "I would rather have 2 Scion FR-S"
inb4 "I would rather have 6 used s2000s"

It is an interesting time to be a car enthusiast for sure.

I'll take option e.

Totally!!!

1) Install roll bars in all S2000s.
2) Weld diffs solid.
3) Practice driving on two wheels until you get it right.
4) ???
5) Profit.

-GP

[greatfox]

The ZL1 is like 4100-4200 lbs

That is totally inexcusable for a performance coupe. What is it an SUV?!?! This car is such a fail

[tampaSi]

Of course they did. Early 90's.

When they all had 276bhp?

[Broduski]

That is totally inexcusable for a performance coupe. What is it an SUV?!?! This car is such a fail

lol my Ford is like 4300 lbs. Cars have gotten far too heavy when a new sports coupe weighs as much as an old half-ton pick up.

[malv1]

I actually saw an orange ZL1 this morning on my way to work... I didn't have to time to pull out the trusty iPhone and take a pic as I was going to fast in the Juke to do so...

I honestly thought I would see him at the next light or two and I could snap a pic but the guy never showed, I am guessing he turned.

It is a monster looking machine but like many others, it doesn't do it for me... I think I am completely turned off the new Camaro due to how long it took them to actually release the thing. I am a Mustang guy but I love the Z06 and this is a cool Camaro and all but just doesn't do "it" for me.

[JustinCSVT]

The ZL1 is like 4100-4200 lbs

A little under 4100.

Don't see what's so surprising when the CTS-V coupe weighs 4200, the GT500 will probably close 38-3900, and the GT-R is at 3900. The M6 will probably be around there too if not more than those mentioned.

[SSLByron]

A little under 4100.

Don't see what's so surprising when the CTS-V coupe weighs 4200, the GT500 will probably close 38-3900, and the GT-R is at 3900. The M6 will probably be around there too if not more than those mentioned.

More, for sure. The 6-Series is as obese as they come.

[Toaster29]

750 hp and still running mid 10's. Awesome.


Would hate to come up on one of these in my shiny new ZL1.

LOL, pot calling the kettle black. The late SC Mustangs have always produced impressive numbers when modified...performance that does not translate to the track relative to other cars with similar power numbers.

[Zinhead1]

Saw my first one this past weekend.

I prefer that 964 Turbo in the background. In five years, the 964 will have gone up in value, while the ZL1 will be worth half the current price.

[curvedinfinity]

I prefer that 964 Turbo in the background. In five years, the 964 will have gone up in value, while the ZL1 will be worth half the current price.

Yeah, but that applies to all new cars. The proper way of framing it is the ZL1 was probably one of the fastest cars in that parking lot, and its not absurdly priced for that capability.

[InternetMeme]

The Camaro imo has the best looking front end of any sports car currently on the market... and the worst rear end. Totally kills the car for me. But GD if that front end isn't amazing

[SVTDanny]

LOL, pot calling the kettle black. The late SC Mustangs have always produced impressive numbers when modified...performance that does not translate to the track relative to other cars with similar power numbers.

A 500 whp Cobra is a solid mid 11 second car. How is that not in line with how other cars perform?

[carguy69]

mustang>camaro. mustang is the best there is, the best there was and the best there ever will be.

[MikeSAABt]

I prefer that 964 Turbo in the background. In five years, the 964 will have gone up in value, while the ZL1 will be worth half the current price.

that's the dumbest comparison of two cars i've ever heard.

[Accidental L8 apex]

I prefer that 964 Turbo in the background. In five years, the 964 will have gone up in value, while the ZL1 will be worth half the current price.

You realize that 964 dropped in value for years before reaching its current state, no? The Camaro will do the exact same two things on a different scale. Stop being an elitest and go back to your ultra-low posts-per-day average, please.