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    04-26-2012 12:28 AM #1
    Thought about posting this in the Home Theater section of the forum. But I think this is more about manufacturing jobs returning to the US.

    And in Michigan no less: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3032619/...81431#47181431

    Glad to hear that the US assembled sets are sold out. And I hope sales takes off so US based suppliers takes notice and set up shop.

    Never heard of Element Electronics. I checked their site and the specs for their US assembled sets are coming soon. I checked the specs for the rest of their line up. While it's nothing ground breaking e.g. no 3D or internet capable, I would consider their US assembled set as a 2nd or 3rd set.

    I hope more companies takes notice.

  2. 04-26-2012 12:45 AM #2
    Quote Originally Posted by Crob View Post
    Americans can build anything, just have to convince multinational companies like Samsung, Siemens or Aerobus to invest in the USA. We lack competitiveness with other countries due to outdated infrastructure, and lack of universal health care. We have everything else though, land, raw materials, and labor.
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    04-26-2012 12:59 AM #3
    I thought Mitsubishi still made TVs in the US. No?
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    04-26-2012 01:08 AM #4
    It only mentions North America on Mitsubishi's page: http://mitsubishi-tv.com/company/about

    Sure their headquarters is in California. But their North American manufacturing facility could be in Canada or Mexico. I'm gonna guess Mexico.

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    04-26-2012 01:11 AM #5
    I thought Sony still made TV's in the old VW plant in Pennsylvania?

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    04-26-2012 01:22 AM #6
    Quote Originally Posted by Crob View Post
    I want universal health care and interstates paved with the finest asphalt the world can produce. Hell, add some toll lanes or a totally separate freeway that are truck restricted in between the wide ass medians on many of the country's interstates for drivers that want to go as fast as they want. Pay for my health care, and I'll pay to drive as fast as I want.
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    04-26-2012 01:58 AM #7
    Quote Originally Posted by mx5er View Post
    Never heard of Element Electronics.


    On a serious note, good to hear for Michigan. Hopefully the factory does well.
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    04-26-2012 02:38 AM #8
    The amount of manual labor in that video was very surprising.
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    04-26-2012 02:54 AM #9
    Quote Originally Posted by Crob View Post
    It's not that easy. I don't know the language(s) fluently, and not enough moneys.
    Then quit bitching about the US sonny! When I came to the US, I did not know English and certainly did not have money. Wait I thought the countries you want to move to would assist you if you do not have money. I guess not!

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    04-26-2012 03:25 AM #10
    Glad to see this is happening. Also just watched another thing on tv that jobs that were moved overseas are coming back to the US. Looks like companies are finally realizing the costly mistakes they made. Hope this is not temporary. We really need to boost in the economy here in the states and this is one of the first steps.
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    04-26-2012 07:26 AM #11
    Quote Originally Posted by Crob View Post
    Americans can build anything, just have to convince multinational companies like Samsung, Siemens or Aerobus to invest in the USA.
    wat?
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    04-26-2012 08:10 AM #12
    Only a matter of time until labor unions get involved and muck it up for everyone...like usual...
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    04-26-2012 08:31 AM #13
    None of the parts are being made here just shipped in right? Either way I will take an assembly factory if that's the first step, this is just barely manufacturing though.
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    04-26-2012 08:57 AM #14
    Quote Originally Posted by merckx56 View Post
    Only a matter of time until labor unions get involved and muck it up for everyone...like usual...
    I'm surprised it took this many posts for someone to drag unions into this
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheGreenspanator View Post
    I'm surprised it took this many posts for someone to drag unions into this
    Problem? Labor unions are arguably the biggest reason for the downfall of some of the largest industries in the US.

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    04-26-2012 09:14 AM #16
    Quote Originally Posted by Crob View Post
    Americans can build anything, just have to convince multinational companies like Samsung, Siemens or Aerobus to invest in the USA. We lack competitiveness with other countries due to outdated infrastructure, and lack of universal health care. We have everything else though, land, raw materials, and labor.
    Siemens has a large medical instruments division in metro-Boston.

    The $5.00/hour manufacturing lines are in Asia. Samsung couldn't possibly manufacture cell phones in the US and be competitive. They do employ a ton of people in the US in high skill engineering jobs.

    There are an awful lot of GE and Pratt & Whitney engines in Airbus jets. An awful lot of avionics in an Airbus comes from the US.

    The US is still the largest manufacturer in the world. The US can't compete for $5.00/hour high volume, low skill manufacturing lines but nobody in the US would take a job that pays so poorly.

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    04-26-2012 09:17 AM #17
    Quote Originally Posted by GeoffD View Post

    The US is still the largest manufacturer in the world. The US can't compete for $5.00/hour high volume, low skill manufacturing lines but nobody in the US would take a job that pays so poorly.
    It wouldn't hurt to lower our corporate tax rate either.



    We are now the highest since Japan lowered theirs.
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  18. 04-26-2012 09:46 AM #18
    Quote Originally Posted by rsj0714 View Post
    It wouldn't hurt to lower our corporate tax rate either.



    We are now the highest since Japan lowered theirs.
    Loopholes and other special treatment for different kinds of businesses mean that businesses pay an effective rate of only 29.2% of their income, which puts the United States below the average of 31.9% among other major economies, according to analysis by the Treasury Department.

    http://money.cnn.com/2012/03/27/pf/t...axes/index.htm

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    04-26-2012 09:48 AM #19
    Quote Originally Posted by Crob View Post
    Want jobs? Then appease to the Globalization gods or perish.
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    04-26-2012 10:00 AM #20
    They've been all over the news here this week since they got up and running... their facility is about 15 minutes away from me so I'm happy to see a local business getting this kind of publicity.

    Quote Originally Posted by mx5er View Post
    Never heard of Element Electronics. I checked their site and the specs for their US assembled sets are coming soon. I checked the specs for the rest of their line up. While it's nothing ground breaking e.g. no 3D or internet capable, I would consider their US assembled set as a 2nd or 3rd set.
    I've seen Element TVs in stores before but I don't know anyone with one. but I'm with you; I'll definitely look into snapping one of them up to replace the old 32" monster set in the basement.
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    04-26-2012 10:07 AM #21
    Quote Originally Posted by Crob View Post
    We lack competitiveness with other countries due to outdated infrastructure, and lack of universal health care.
    We lack competitiveness because we have a significantly higher expectation with regard to quality of life than the industrializing nations. This country also does not have the numbers of skilled workers needed to move a lot of the more complex tasks (design, etc.) over here. I read an article not too long ago about companies paying to bring people from other countries because they couldn't find U.S. citizens with the skill sets that they needed.
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    04-26-2012 10:08 AM #22
    Quote Originally Posted by Crob View Post
    When TV's weighed up to a 100lbs or more, but now I doubt it.
    The Sony 36" HD tube TV in my basement was built in PA. ****er weighs 230lbs. At the time you could get them cheaper from sony direct than from a store because of the freight cost. The picture quality is sick but its not widescreen. Sort of screws up movie viewing a little bit.
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    Boeings rival.
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    04-26-2012 10:11 AM #24
    Quote Originally Posted by 09vdubgti View Post
    Boeings rival.
    Oh....like Volkswagon is a rival of Porsh?
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    04-26-2012 10:14 AM #25
    Quote Originally Posted by MAC View Post
    The Sony 36" HD tube TV in my basement was built in PA. ****er weighs 230lbs. At the time you could get them cheaper from sony direct than from a store because of the freight cost. The picture quality is sick but its not widescreen. Sort of screws up movie viewing a little bit.
    I have one of the very last ones they made: a 34" widescreen Sony XBR CRT HDTV. It weighs well over 200 lbs and is very front-heavy so it takes at least 3 people to move it around comfortably.

    Mine was made in Mexico and I haven't had a single issue with it. Picture quality (1080i) is still outstanding. That said, when I move in the next year or so I will probably just put an ad on Craigslist that says "free if you can move it."

    Also, I know Vizio made (assembled) TVs in the US previously -- not sure if they still do.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ATL_Av8r View Post
    Oh....like Volkswagon is a rival of Porsh?
    nah more like vw and toyota
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    Quote Originally Posted by 09vdubgti View Post
    nah more like vw and toyota
    who?
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    04-26-2012 10:33 AM #28
    Quote Originally Posted by merckx56 View Post
    Only a matter of time until labor unions get involved and muck it up for everyone...like usual...
    Truth x19.

    Seriously, people, look at the UAW and what happened to General Motors and Chrysler. Why do you think they got the bailouts as opposed to Chapter 11?
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    04-26-2012 10:34 AM #29
    Quote Originally Posted by joness0154 View Post
    Loopholes and other special treatment for different kinds of businesses mean that businesses pay an effective rate of only 29.2% of their income, which puts the United States below the average of 31.9% among other major economies, according to analysis by the Treasury Department.

    http://money.cnn.com/2012/03/27/pf/t...axes/index.htm
    29% is still high, regardless.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ATL_Av8r View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by rsj0714 View Post
    None of the parts are being made here just shipped in right? Either way I will take an assembly factory if that's the first step, this is just barely manufacturing though.
    how do you think car factories work?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ValveCoverGasket View Post
    how do you think car factories work?
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    04-26-2012 01:01 PM #33
    Quote Originally Posted by 09vdubgti View Post
    Boeings rival.
    Sure, if Fork is the rival of Gemini Motors.
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  34. 04-26-2012 01:03 PM #34
    Quote Originally Posted by SimpleStaple View Post
    29% is still high, regardless.

    You want incentives, you suck it up and make one.
    If you compare it to our peers, its below average.

    How low should it be?

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    So move to Europe.
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