came across this on yahoo! autos, arguably the be-all, end-all in automotive journalism
Reality check: Let’s talk about space and size. For around the same price and fuel economy and comparable power as the Mazdaspeed3, you can get the 2012 Honda Odyssey which seats seven passengers (two more than the Mazda), has nearly double the passenger volume (172.5 cubic feet versus 94.6 cubic feet) plus another 25 or so inches in length (202.9 versus 177.6).
On a serious note, who ever wrote this.... I.... nevermind I'm speechless
Reality check: The much smaller Subaru Impreza Wagon WRX STI gets the same fuel economy as the brawny Ford F-150 truck, which carries a 3.7-liter V-6 engine that can generate 302 horsepower and 278-lb-ft of torque and weighs (curb weight) 1300 more pounds than the Subaru Impreza Wagon (4,685 pounds versus 3,384 pounds).
Reality check: The 2012 Porsche 911 Carrera (with 7-speed PDK automatic transmission) gets better economy than the Ralliart trim of the Mitsubishi Lancer.
Well, that settles it then! I'll just be getting a 911 instead of a Rallart Lancer and an F150 instead of a WRX.
I see what they are trying to do, but I really don't think anybody interested in buying a WRX is going to not buy it because it gets below average gas mileage. If you were talking about something like a Hyundai Accent getting bad mileage, then yeah, OK.
Last edited by Roboturner913; 04-26-2012 at 09:23 AM.
Wow... and an STI gets the fuel economy of a "much bigger" F-150... as if size is a benefit in all situations.
The MS3 and STI may not haul 5 kids or 3 yards of soil, but the Ody and F-series aren't touching them on a backroad either. But, apparently, it's all about size per dollar.
So if I want better fuel economy and don't care about performance I shouldn't purchase the performance model?? Thanks, got it.
Embarrassing "article". No way it would have made it to physical print if we still did that kind of thing. It bothers me how the Internet has watered down journalism, and automotive websites seems to be the worst offenders. At least this one seems to have been run through spell check.
dasjettakartell - immortalized on the wall, forgotten on the floor
It is curious that an S4 gets the same mileage as a MS3: http://www.fueleconomy.gov/feg/Find....31584&id=31180
I live in a former GM town and we can't drive either of our cars (Mazda, Nissan and a Toyota) without some local yokel putting their 2 cents in about it. A couple times a week somebody leaves a note under the windshield wiper saying something like "every foreign car you buy is an American job lost" or something equally stupid.
i agree that their premise is misinformed. for example, not everyone who purchases a car values size as one of their top priorities. but they do have a point in regards to fuel economy. there really is no reason that the wrx/sti/evo continue to get the abysmal fuel economy that they do, especially when cars and trucks that weigh significantly more and have similar power outputs manage to get just as, if not better, fuel economy. but i imagine it is something that subaru/mitsu will address with their coming redesigns.
Well damn! I guess I need to cross off the sti from the vehicles I want to buy to save money on fuel!
The MS3 is very capable of getting decent gas mileage so long as you stay out of boost.
The WRX/STI and Evo needs to be tuned to lean out the fuel mixture at partial throttle to get that gas mileage up. But in order to do that, they need factory catalytic converters that can keep the emissions (which are heightened from leaning out the mixture) down to a normal amount.
There isn't much to the Evo's and STI's aside from their power plants. All other aspects were cut to keep cost down. Using better catalytic converters and tuning for fuel economy is one of those areas I would assume Subaru and Mitsubishi said "**** it. People will buy them anyway."