I'm just getting used to my Phaeton (2008 3.0TDi 60K miles). I know that steering & suspension issues have been talked about a lot but could I ask you guys if you think my steering is "normal" for a Phaeton:
When on a flat, level road it will tend to drive straight but at the hint of a bit of camber or dip in the road it will pull fairly noticeably one way or the other. As a result I find myself holding the wheel quite tightly all the time "just in case".
So, is this common due to the low profile tyres (19" omanyt wheels) and light steering or do you think there may be wear in the rubber suspension parts?
(I have had the wheel alignment adjusted twice recently on a 4 wheel alignment system).
Last edited by robbie-rocket-pants; 05-07-2012 at 06:04 PM.
My phaeton has 125000 miles and steers straight and true as well. I find it very easy and relaxing to drive. I think there must be something effecting your car. Recently I read about a car with wheel bearings which were effecting the steering but it could be several things. Maybe some of the other guys will have some ideas.
Should feel utterly straight and true. Have a trusted garage check the bushes for wear, a little play that seems acceptable can make the car feel awful and tramline on tired, rutted roads like the inside lane of the M1 for example. The dealer may tell you can't just get the bushes, that is rot except for the anti roll bar drop links which really aren't worth messing about with other than exchanging them.
If its just one corner then don't waste your time doing all four wheels again, just align that to the rest of the car which you now know to be correct.
Last edited by gartracescort; 04-26-2012 at 02:47 PM.
I had a bent nearside wishbone due to pothole damage, the car drives better now its fixed. I would say that my Phaeton does 'track' the road, especially in the deep trenches lorries create in slow lanes on the motorway. I have the same Omanyt 19" alloys with Pirelli PZero Rosso XL tyres, I typically use 39PSI all round, even though it recommends upto 48PSI in the rears (fully loaded).
...When on a flat, level road it will tend to drive straight but at the hint of a bit of camber or dip in the road it will pull fairly noticeably one way or the other. As a result I find myself holding the wheel quite tightly all the time "just in case"....
I had exactly the same problem. I too had to hold the steering wheel on not so perfect asphalt roads, just in case the car would turn to the right or left. An expensive alignment by the dealer didn't fix the problem either. Then I had the tires changed, which completely solved the problem. It turned out that the old (front) tires were severely worn at some locations at the inner side of the tires. The dealer probably overlooked some particular sections during his inspection of the tires.
Once you have the bushes replaced make sure that you hace a proper wheel alignment performed in which the "Toe constant S" is checked and adjusted if neccesary. Not all the wheel alignment equipment can perform such measurement, plus you have to carry it out with the front wheels raised.
Should you need more info, let me know. I can post the proper VW procedures.
Interesting I’ve run 17”, 2 sets of 18”s and now 19”s on my W-12.
It has always driven straight and true until I installed the Bentley wheels. Now it tramlines all the time… meaning it wants to go left or right depending on the surface. Not sure if this is due to the tire size, wheel geometry, or alignment but it is really noticeable.
I’m going to try to reposition/rotate the wheels to see if anything changes. For what it’s worth the car has 54K miles and the tires/rims have less than 1000.
I’ll be curious to know what solves your situation.
I had the same thing excactly. The steering of the car got aligned 3 times after that I marked a position that seemed straight to me. That was just like 3-5 degrees to the right. After the dealer aligned the steering according to my marker - the steering seems fine.