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    Thread: Possible to delete PS and keep AC?

    1. Member mk3alltheway's Avatar
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      04-26-2012 04:47 PM #1
      Ive already deleted my AC and now Im looking to delete my PS and reinstall my AC for this upcoming summer if its possible.

      Now Ive seen how the belt is routed and If I routed the belt on the opposite face of the AC pulley it would lessen the belt wrap on the alternator, which seems like a potential problem. Anyhow has anyone done this before?

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      04-26-2012 08:33 PM #2
      I would amagine the belt wrap would not be enough on the alt if routed that way.

      Personally I would make a idler on a bracket in place of the ps pump, although I also would keep my pump.

      If you do some measurements, you can input the information into calculators on the internet for minimal wrap angle.
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      04-27-2012 03:56 PM #3
      As a guy who just deleted my PS this past weekend, I will say "seriously reconsider deleting the PS system." I'm not a small guy by any means. I am 225 and can easily bench my own weight. I wish I had never converted my PS rack to manual steering. I'm assuming that an actual manual rack is less effort, but a power R&P with the internal seals cut out is pretty ugly to daily drive. I imagine that I'll eventually have to convert back (meaning a new rack) after a few months--especially after a few auto-x events.
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      04-30-2012 09:10 AM #4
      do a search bro, this comes up at least once a month. ive been running no p/s or a/c for years and love it. need to get a shorter 6 rib belt. and ditch your power rack and do it right with a manual rack

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      05-02-2012 06:46 PM #5
      Quote Originally Posted by Nuzzi View Post
      do a search bro, this comes up at least once a month. ive been running no p/s or a/c for years and love it. need to get a shorter 6 rib belt. and ditch your power rack and do it right with a manual rack
      I dont believe that was what I asked. Im looking for past experiences of anyone who has done the same and what they had to do to achieve it..

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      05-02-2012 09:33 PM #6
      Quote Originally Posted by mk3alltheway View Post
      I dont believe that was what I asked. Im looking for past experiences of anyone who has done the same and what they had to do to achieve it..
      In all fairness, you didn't really communicate that very well. I too thought you were more intersted in how it was done rather than what it felt like.

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      05-02-2012 10:31 PM #7
      Manual racks and power racks have different ratios. Most power racks have 3-3.5 turns lock to lock and manual racks 3.5-4.5 turns. The increased number of turns relates to the effort required to turn. More turns = turns easier.

      I did the same thing on a Honda Prelude years ago and hated it until I put the true manual rack in. Then it was great. It was still harder to turn than power, but not much.

      Also, manual racks weigh 5lbs less on average than power racks, for those counting.

      If I were to do this to our Jetta, I would probably make an idler setup. Maybe gut out the PS pump and put it back in? Take out the vanes, cap the ports.....

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      05-03-2012 09:30 AM #8
      my mistake i misread, then got caught up in the other responses. idler pulley looks like the only option.

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