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      04-26-2012 11:01 PM #1
      I know OT is more lightly moderated than most of the sub-forums, but if all the hot chick threads are getting shut down, would it be possible for threads/posts that are obviously started to get a huge racial poo-flinging contest going shut down too?

      How can posts like these be considered acceptable?


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      04-27-2012 09:35 AM #2
      Quote Originally Posted by Fritz27 View Post
      I know OT is more lightly moderated than most of the sub-forums, but if all the hot chick threads are getting shut down, would it be possible for threads/posts that are obviously started to get a huge racial poo-flinging contest going shut down too?

      How can posts like these be considered acceptable?

      they're not...nobody has reported them until now

      thread gone

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      05-04-2012 06:19 AM #3
      Question: I see a lot of name-calling by current members. I also see a lot of profiles whose members have been banned for reasons unknown...

      Out of curiosity and to keep from making any mistakes, exactly what kind of behavior does it take to be banned? Do people usually get some kind of warning first? (I'm sure of the obvious, like posting porn, using racial epithats, etc...)
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      05-04-2012 07:21 AM #4
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      As far as banning goes: there are a very limited number of people here (as in 5 or 10) who have access to be able to ban people, and it's not something we take lightly. If a user is doing something inappropriate, the moderators will discuss that with them. If the behavior continues, eventually the moderators will talk to the Admins about it, and then one of us will speak to the user about it. If it still doesn't stop, then sometimes the only recourse we have is to ban people.

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      05-04-2012 08:45 AM #5
      Gotcha. Thanks
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      05-05-2012 12:36 PM #6
      wait how about when someone jacks your thread and then complains about it to his buddy and then the thread gets locked- wtf? How about telling broke to stop trolling my threads?
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      05-06-2012 01:30 PM #7
      Quote Originally Posted by vwuberalles2003 View Post
      wait how about when someone jacks your thread and then complains about it to his buddy and then the thread gets locked- wtf? How about telling broke to stop trolling my threads?
      No one cares buddy, your just mad because no one agrees with you. That is life bro.
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      05-07-2012 02:20 PM #8
      Quote Originally Posted by vwuberalles2003 View Post
      wait how about when someone jacks your thread and then complains about it to his buddy and then the thread gets locked- wtf? How about telling broke to stop trolling my threads?
      If there is an issue going on somewhere, please either use the "report post" button or PM one of the moderators about it, and we'll help you out.

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      05-18-2012 01:03 PM #9
      Any chance that this post can get this stupid thread closed?

      All you have to do is highlight it.

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      07-05-2012 09:09 AM #10
      Here we go again.

      Weeeee!

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      07-05-2012 05:10 PM #11
      Quote Originally Posted by Fritz27 View Post
      Here we go again.

      Weeeee!
      So people do not have freedom of speech anymore? Is America not a welfare state? Not saying I agree with said statements from this individual, but I agree we are paying for the welfare of others no matter what ethnicity they are.
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      07-05-2012 05:24 PM #12
      Quote Originally Posted by GinsterMan98 View Post
      So people do not have freedom of speech anymore? Is America not a welfare state? Not saying I agree with said statements from this individual, but I agree we are paying for the welfare of others no matter what ethnicity they are.
      Uh, this is a message board and the First Amendment doesn't apply here. That's why words are automatically censored.

      Regardless of the merit of his political beliefs, he takes a turn for the racist with what he says and that is not cool.

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      07-05-2012 05:32 PM #13
      Quote Originally Posted by Fritz27 View Post
      Uh, this is a message board and the First Amendment doesn't apply here. That's why words are automatically censored.

      Regardless of the merit of his political beliefs, he takes a turn for the racist with what he says and that is not cool.
      Yeah, you are right about his choice of words. I agree with you there, but he does have the right to say what he wants given it stays clean.

      From the FAQ:
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      Advised against does not mean you can't.

      Basically what I am trying to say to you is that a Mod already told you to report the post. What is your reasoning behind posting a thread like this?
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      07-05-2012 06:24 PM #14
      Quote Originally Posted by GinsterMan98 View Post
      Yeah, you are right about his choice of words. I agree with you there, but he does have the right to say what he wants given it stays clean.

      From the FAQ:
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      Advised against does not mean you can't.

      Basically what I am trying to say to you is that a Mod already told you to report the post. What is your reasoning behind posting a thread like this?
      I reported the post, but I figure this would be just as effective.

      Does it really bother you this much? I'll ask a mod to delete this thread if it offends your sensibilities so much.

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      07-05-2012 07:15 PM #15
      Quote Originally Posted by Fritz27 View Post
      I reported the post, but I figure this would be just as effective.

      Does it really bother you this much? I'll ask a mod to delete this thread if it offends your sensibilities so much.
      No man, it does not bother me that you brought up the issue. That being said, don't make posts if your not ready to hear others opinions on the matter, same goes for him. You wanted attention, that is why you made this thread, same reason he made that post. You could have just reported it and left it to the powers that be and let him dig his own grave. You can do as you please, we who live in the USA are free. If you want this thread deleted, do so.
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      07-05-2012 10:35 PM #16
      Quote Originally Posted by GinsterMan98 View Post
      Yeah, you are right about his choice of words. I agree with you there, but he does have the right to say what he wants given it stays clean...
      The last post in said thread was a very vivid attack against a certain group. Wasn't clean.

      Whatever the case, some of the epithets expressed on that thread were completely without class. Uncle Reums? Seriously?

      I believe in this country. Immensly. I love that we have freedoms that a lot of countries don't.

      Although we have the freedom of speech, there are times when it's a totally bad idea to envoke that right; whether or not the response is legal or otherwise equally reciprocated.

      Screem, "fk whitey," at a klan rally. Yell an ethnic slur in Little Havana. See what happens.

      Case-in-point.

      I agree with the fact that you shouldn't post something unless you're prepared for the potential response(s), but consider the following:

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      BUT... I will concede that we're kinda on the same page
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      07-05-2012 11:52 PM #17
      Quote Originally Posted by Fritz27 View Post
      Uh, this is a message board and the First Amendment doesn't apply here. That's why words are automatically censored.

      Regardless of the merit of his political beliefs, he takes a turn for the racist with what he says and that is not cool.
      i agree

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      07-06-2012 01:20 AM #18
      Quote Originally Posted by TheMel View Post
      Screem, "fk whitey," at a klan rally. Yell an ethnic slur in Little Havana. See what happens.
      This statement makes you no better, racist remarks are what they are even if your trying to prove a point. You are free to say it though...


      I agree to disagree. I hold no ill feelings towards anyone because of this.
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      07-06-2012 10:01 AM #20
      Exactly my point. You see nothing wrong with your statement? Guess racism aimed at caucasians is acceptable. How is that glass house treating you? Again, don't post if your not prepared to hear opinions from others.

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      07-06-2012 10:21 AM #21
      Quote Originally Posted by GinsterMan98 View Post
      Exactly my point. You see nothing wrong with your statement? Guess racism aimed at caucasians is acceptable. How is that glass house treating you? Again, don't post if your not prepared to hear opinions from others.

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      His point was that dumb comments are an exercise of free speech, but that doesn't mean those dumb comments won't be met with reprisals.

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      07-06-2012 10:32 AM #22
      I agree. I see your intentions are good. I also hope this behavior stops. Take care.

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      07-06-2012 07:53 PM #23
      Guys, take this elsewhere.

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