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    04-27-2012 08:26 AM #1
    17522 and 17526 is what I need help with. disregard the others.So I have this Scan I hope I can get some help. It's been on forever and I can't seem to fix it..
    I have replaced the sensor multiple times, and replaced the ECM once. I then checked all the wiring and it was fine.. Any help is greatly appreciated.

    VCDS Version: Release 11.11.3
    Data version: 20120401
    Nino's Vag Service
    Sunday,22,April,2012,17:55:41:14980

    Chassis Type: 1J - VW Golf/Bora IV
    Scan: 01 02 03 08 15 16 17 19 22 29 35 36 37 39 46 47 55 56 57 75
    76

    VIN: Mileage: 124280km/77224miles
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    Address 01: Engine Labels: 06A-906-032-AWP.lbl
    Part No: 06A 906 032 SM
    Component: 1.8L R4/5VT G 0030
    Coding: 07500
    Shop #: WSC 19419
    VCID: 7BFEE19069FE411
    VWZ7Z0D0922557

    2 Faults Found:
    17522 - Oxygen (Lambda) Sensor; B1 S2
    P1114 - 35-00 - Internal Resistance too High
    17526 - Oxygen (Lambda) Sensor Heating; B1 S2
    P1118 - 35-00 - Open Circuit
    Readiness: 0000 0001

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    Address 03: ABS Brakes Labels: 1C0-907-37x-ESP-F.lbl
    Part No: 1C0 907 379 M
    Component: ESP FRONT MK60 0102
    Coding: 0019970
    Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00000
    VCID: 346C0AAC54204E9

    No fault code found.

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    Address 15: Airbags Labels: 6Q0-909-605-VW5.lbl
    Part No: 1C0 909 605 F
    Component: 04 AIRBAG VW61 0202 0003
    Coding: 12340
    Shop #: WSC 00066
    VCID: 2756EDE0C5F6351

    No fault code found.

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    Address 17: Instruments Labels: 1J0-920-xx5-17.lbl
    Part No: 1J5 920 926 H
    Component: KOMBI+WEGFAHRSP VDO V57
    Coding: 15230
    Shop #: WSC 00000
    VCID: 346C0AAC04204E9
    VWZ7Z0D0922557

    No fault code found.

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    Address 19: CAN Gateway Labels: 6N0-909-901-19.lbl
    Part No: 6N0 909 901
    Component: Gateway K<->CAN 0001
    Coding: 00006
    Shop #: WSC 00066
    VCID: F0E446BCB0B8B29

    No fault code found.

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    Address 46: Central Conv. Labels: 1C0-959-799.lbl
    Part No: 1C0 959 799 C
    Component: 1H Komfortger·t HLO 004
    Coding: 00259
    Shop #: WSC 19419
    VCID: 37763DA01556A51

    Subsystem 1 - Part No: 1C1959801A
    Component: 1H Tırsteuer.FS KLO 0202

    Subsystem 2 - Part No: 1C1959802A
    Component: 1H Tırsteuer.BF KLO 0202

    Subsystem 3 - Part No: 1C0959811A
    Component: 1H Tırsteuer.HL KLO 0202

    Subsystem 4 - Part No: 1C0959812A
    Component: 1H Tırsteuer.HR KLO 0202

    6 Faults Found:
    00912 - Window Regulator Switch; Front Left (E40)
    27-10 - Implausible Signal - Intermittent
    00913 - Window Regulator Switch; Front Right Driver (E81)
    27-10 - Implausible Signal - Intermittent
    01331 - Door Control Module; Driver Side (J386)
    37-00 - Faulty
    01332 - Door Control Module; Passenger Side (J387)
    37-00 - Faulty
    01333 - Door Control Module; Rear Left (J388)
    37-00 - Faulty
    01334 - Door Control Module; Rear Right (J389)
    37-00 - Faulty

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    Address 56: Radio Labels: 3B7-035-1xx-56.lbl
    Part No: 3B7 035 180 G
    Component: RADIO 3CP 0007
    Coding: 00031
    Shop #: WSC 00066
    VCID: 244CFAECB4C0DE9

    2 Faults Found:
    00856 - Radio Antenna
    36-00 - Open Circuit
    01042 - Control Module; Not Coded
    35-00 - -

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    04-27-2012 08:40 AM #2
    So O2 sensors? What exhaust do you have? If you have a aftermarket steel exhaust that isn't as restricted that would probably be why... as heat will sit on steel longer and heat differently. Also will measure different due to high flow.

    Just a thought really. Is there a fix? /shrug maybe if you flash your car. I know I wonder if I could find REVO near me I'd be able to get rid of my CEL by going to 2 or 2+

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    04-27-2012 08:54 AM #3
    I have a 3 inch Eurojet exhaust with an o2 spacer.
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    04-27-2012 08:56 AM #4
    That may be it right there... O2 sensors are finicky. temps pressure etc. Did this start when you got the exhaust.

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    04-27-2012 08:58 AM #5
    Those are both circuit codes that indicate high resistance/open circuit, as if the sensor was unplugged. I can't see a big exhaust or spacer causing these codes.

    Check the connection. Verify ALL the wires on the car side. Are you using OE or OE-style Bosch sensors?
    Last edited by Anony00GT; 04-27-2012 at 09:01 AM.
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    04-27-2012 09:03 AM #6
    Well see that's what I was wondering as well seeing high Resistance. I'm all out of thoughts after that. So you replaced them before I'm guessing?

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    04-27-2012 09:09 AM #7
    http://uk-mkivs.net/forums/t/341552.aspx

    A post about the same issue. But on there hand check your wiring again. Take a rag/cloth that is able to catch on cuts/scrapes etc and run it along the wire to see if it catches any Knicks of some sort.

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    04-27-2012 09:15 AM #8
    I go with anony00GT.
    Seems like a wiring problem with high resistance.
    Check all wires to the B1S2 sensor again and load test and voltage drop the wires.
    Also make sure you have power and ground load tested to the heater circuit.
    Also check the ECU connector for corrosion seeing a lot of that lately as these get older.

    Keep in mind the O2 heater circuit known to short out and burn up the ECU pedal circuit destroying the ECU on 1.8T motors. Good idea to fuse the heater circuit to avoid this.

    Good Luck

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    04-27-2012 09:31 AM #9
    Probably right due to high Res. Just wasn't sure seeing as he said he checked wires. I hate wiring... more of a structural Guy. Keep us posted and good luck.

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  10. 04-27-2012 10:25 AM #10
    Change the OXS sensors immediately!

    Add a fuse for the heater circuit if you know how.
    This could cause an unsafe driving condition at any moment.

    Soon you will burn down an ecu.

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    04-27-2012 10:43 AM #11
    Quote Originally Posted by Jack@European Parts View Post
    Change the OXS sensors immediately!

    Add a fuse for the heater circuit if you know how.
    This could cause an unsafe driving condition at any moment.

    Soon you will burn down an ecu.

    Best,
    This is true as well. Forgot about the potential ECU damage.

    Adding a heater circuit fuse is a darn good idea too.
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    04-27-2012 09:10 PM #12
    Quote Originally Posted by Anony00GT View Post
    Those are both circuit codes that indicate high resistance/open circuit, as if the sensor was unplugged. I can't see a big exhaust or spacer causing these codes.

    Check the connection. Verify ALL the wires on the car side. Are you using OE or OE-style Bosch sensors?
    I will double check the wiring. I'm using OEM

    Quote Originally Posted by path0s View Post
    Well see that's what I was wondering as well seeing high Resistance. I'm all out of thoughts after that. So you replaced them before I'm guessing?

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    I have 3 or 4 times, once after the new ECU.

    Quote Originally Posted by path0s View Post
    http://uk-mkivs.net/forums/t/341552.aspx

    A post about the same issue. But on there hand check your wiring again. Take a rag/cloth that is able to catch on cuts/scrapes etc and run it along the wire to see if it catches any Knicks of some sort.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stan067 View Post
    I go with anony00GT.
    Seems like a wiring problem with high resistance.
    Check all wires to the B1S2 sensor again and load test and voltage drop the wires.
    Also make sure you have power and ground load tested to the heater circuit.
    Also check the ECU connector for corrosion seeing a lot of that lately as these get older.

    Keep in mind the O2 heater circuit known to short out and burn up the ECU pedal circuit destroying the ECU on 1.8T motors. Good idea to fuse the heater circuit to avoid this.

    Good Luck
    Quote Originally Posted by path0s View Post
    Probably right due to high Res. Just wasn't sure seeing as he said he checked wires. I hate wiring... more of a structural Guy. Keep us posted and good luck.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack@European Parts View Post
    Change the OXS sensors immediately!

    Add a fuse for the heater circuit if you know how.
    This could cause an unsafe driving condition at any moment.

    Soon you will burn down an ecu.

    Best,
    I haven't a clue how but I will see if I can find some help. I hope it didn't fry this ECU to.

    Quote Originally Posted by Anony00GT View Post
    This is true as well. Forgot about the potential ECU damage.

    Adding a heater circuit fuse is a darn good idea too.
    Thanks everyone for all the input
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    04-28-2012 03:31 PM #13
    depending on the year there is a power steering pressure sensor that leaks internlly and causes a short across the o2 taking out the ecm. so if you ever had oil in those connectors and you just replace the o2, you will still need to clean/replace the rest of the harness. food for thought...

  14. 04-29-2012 11:12 AM #14
    Brake clean is your friend.

    Not if its fused.
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    04-29-2012 11:28 AM #15
    Quote Originally Posted by vortexpert. View Post
    depending on the year there is a power steering pressure sensor that leaks internlly and causes a short across the o2 taking out the ecm. so if you ever had oil in those connectors and you just replace the o2, you will still need to clean/replace the rest of the harness. food for thought...
    Every time I have pulled apart the connecters they are clean. No oil, corrosion etc..

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack@European Parts View Post
    Brake clean is your friend.

    Not if its fused.
    Why exactly ha?
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  16. 04-29-2012 02:15 PM #16
    If its clean don't worry about it.
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    05-20-2012 01:14 AM #17
    Still no clue on how to fix this issue. Anyone have any ideas/help?
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  18. 05-21-2012 08:47 PM #18
    You should send me your ecu for update and to be checked on the bench to make sure its not FUBAR.
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