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    04-28-2012 12:19 AM #1
    So i bought this suspension used off of SpoolnGLI a month back and i installed them myself.. i kept the height and dampening the way he had it.. till today, i wanted to stiffen the front since i have a track day tomorrow and with my previous set you would open up the hood and turn the allen key... well when i opened the hood this is what i saw ...



    its obviously not normal ?? the bolt on the inside that should be there to slip in the 2mm allen key is missing and it looks like its been broken off ?? or are these a different model v3's and its suppose to be adjusted somewhere else ? i highly doubt it but i guess i would ask before accusing him of selling me broken coilovers.

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    04-28-2012 08:39 AM #2
    Are those V2's and with no "rebound" adjustment?

    I only have experience with v3's sold 2007+ and don't know what older versions look like.

    Pm Darryl at HPA or Glen @ AMI Motorsport. They are experts with KW products.

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    04-28-2012 09:03 AM #3
    The V3 has an adjuster sticking up about a pinky tip width in height, with a surface to fit a very small open end wrench on.
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    04-28-2012 09:20 AM #4
    It does not look like its missing anything, cuz it has an Allen hole to fit a key key for install.

    Does it have a deeper small Allen key hole? Can't tell. Looks like it does and the older version, iirc, had this plastic dial with an Allen key? on it. If so, think you can still use a regular Allen key.

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  5. 04-28-2012 11:02 AM #5
    I installed new kw v3's yesterday, and my set had the adjustment on the top. The manual does state that there are two different versions though. Mine had 2mm allen holes to adjust. I believe compression is on top and rebound is on the bottom both front and rear. The rears must be adjusted from the side on the strut though using a small pick.

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    04-28-2012 11:48 AM #6
    OK, last time I am going to post this, TOP IS REBOUND, BOTTOM IS BUMP, FACT.

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    04-28-2012 12:02 PM #7
    Quote Originally Posted by ThatVdub View Post

    Rebound on TOP.

    OP, yours looks like the middle, but? Us there a small Allen hole in the top big Allen hole?

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    04-29-2012 01:35 PM #8
    Quote Originally Posted by ThatVdub View Post
    Rebound on TOP.

    OP, yours looks like the middle, but? Us there a small Allen hole in the top big Allen hole?
    Look at the pics man.. Does it look like u could put a 2 mm Allen key anywhere ??? Obviously not. The two pictures r of each side, I've owned v3s before and they had a little metal piece sticking out like in Ur pic u provided which u turn, I was looking fore that on these n it's obviously not there, so I thought maybe they were a different version of the v3s, that's why I'm asking u guys these questions. Then I searched that u should have a 2mm Allen hole to turn well I don't have that either so somethings obviously missing no ???? Yea
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    04-29-2012 01:43 PM #9
    U know what would make life a lot easier, is if someone with v3s would open there hood and shoot a pic of what there suspension looks like from the top.. Then compare them to my pics.. I think then u guys will understand what I'm talking about.. I didn't come on here asking where to adjust, I'm asking if my pictures look normal ? If they don't look identical to urs then there's obviously a problem.
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    04-29-2012 02:30 PM #10
    I feel your frustration. I'm at work now so can't post any pics but, mine look exactly like the image on the right in reply #7 above - not at all like yours. So, either yours are some older version that adjusts in some other way or, they have been damaged/something is broken off or missing. There is nothing that could be broken off or removed from mine that would result in them looking like yours. I bought mine new around 3 years ago +/-, have heard that there was an older version, but have never seen them to know if they look like what you have. I'd email a pic straight to KW and see if they know what they're looking at.

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    04-29-2012 03:23 PM #11
    Quote Originally Posted by .:RThirtyTwo View Post
    U know what would make life a lot easier, is if someone with v3s would open there hood and shoot a pic of what there suspension looks like from the top.. Then compare them to my pics.. I think then u guys will understand what I'm talking about.. I didn't come on here asking where to adjust, I'm asking if my pictures look normal ? If they don't look identical to urs then there's obviously a problem.
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    04-29-2012 03:24 PM #12
    The guy who sold them to me said there v3s and if I remember correctly I checks the part number and they matched.. My rears also have the extra side can which the v2s
    Don't have.. And the v2s r only dampening adjustable meaning it would be only at the top.
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    04-29-2012 03:27 PM #13
    THANK YOU for the pic.. Finally someone who understands me.. See mine is missing that little piece to turn.. Probably broke off on both. Now my question.. The other versions have a 2 mm Allen hole to turn.. If someone has pics of those to show that would be great but mine has neither.
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    04-29-2012 03:27 PM #14
    Just bought these 2 weeks ago.

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    04-29-2012 03:44 PM #15
    What i am finding very odd, is the hex cut top center of yours, cap's is not, it's round.

    the new versions have a socket top, unlike yours, which is purely threaded. Follow?

    Edit:

    Now i see why you are confused, and now I see how I was wrong about the V2's, they
    don't have bump, they have rebound, so yours are either damaged V3's, damaged V2's,
    or just normal V1's, for the front. So, to anwer conclusively what they are, does it have
    the "bump" adjustment? If so, then they are V3's and missing a piece.

    Edit2:

    And this is why I will never buy used sh it on here again. Because the last 3 things I bought,
    did not come to me as desribed. Once was not due to the seller, but the shipping company.

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    Why I keep believing they are not damaged and not V3's.
    They don't have a place to hole the rod from spinning on the outside, but rather the center,
    via a hex key. Beause even Cap's "older version" has a way to hold the rod with a wrench,
    yours does not. Not a rocket science dude.

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    04-29-2012 04:19 PM #16
    Yeah, just saw a pic of the V1's, and pretty confident that if you don't have bump adjustment,
    and have that top, it's V1 for the front. I don't believe they are damaged, I could be wrong, but doubt it.

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    04-29-2012 04:47 PM #17
    Quote Originally Posted by ThatVdub View Post
    Yeah, just saw a pic of the V1's, and pretty confident that if you don't have bump adjustment,
    and have that top, it's V1 for the front. I don't believe they are damaged, I could be wrong, but doubt it.
    dude look, i really appreciate the help from you. but ur all over the place.. ive had v3s before .. there the same ones... i can confirm with you that there v3's 100%.. my backs are v3;s its obvious because it comes with the extra little can on the side and the front are v3's because i have the 2mm allen hole on the bottom of the shock to adjust the rebound.. i just dont have the top to adjust the dampening.(bound).. im 99% sure something is missing.
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    04-29-2012 04:52 PM #18
    Quote Originally Posted by kjgun View Post
    Just bought these 2 weeks ago.
    i have this version.. and if you can see if this bold with the 2mm all key hole is mising it goes straight to the treaded part of the shock which you see on my pic.. the whole bolt has been broken off
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    04-29-2012 06:36 PM #19
    Quote Originally Posted by .:RThirtyTwo View Post
    the front are v3's because i have the 2mm allen hole on the bottom of the shock to adjust the rebound.. i just dont have the top to adjust the dampening.(bound).. im 99% sure something is missing.
    1) OK, so you do have V3's, since you have the bottom adjustment on the front.
    2) AGAIN, bottom is BUMP, top is REBOUND (all sides), FACT.

    If you had these before, then you would know the tools needed, like how easy it is to find 2mm
    allen key, and how you can almost use anything for a pin.

    I was confused, since I thought V2's had bump, not rebound, but it is the opposite.
    I was confused, because your pic shows round threads all the way to the top, while ALL V3's have
    on the front top a section to fit a wrench, which is missing on yours. So, yours is completely off,
    now what do you want? Call the dude who sold you damaged V3's and/or contact KW to find out
    how much it is to fix.

    Edit:

    This pic below is fact (B= BUMP, R= Rebound ) as I had put in your other thread.
    I know V3's very well, I just never saw the tops broken off to look like yours.
    How does that happen? No clue. But, should have taken you 2 minutes to figure out,
    ONLY V3's have bump setting.

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    04-29-2012 11:38 PM #20
    Quote Originally Posted by ThatVdub View Post
    1) OK, so you do have V3's, since you have the bottom adjustment on the front.
    2) AGAIN, bottom is BUMP, top is REBOUND (all sides), FACT.

    If you had these before, then you would know the tools needed, like how easy it is to find 2mm
    allen key, and how you can almost use anything for a pin.

    I was confused, since I thought V2's had bump, not rebound, but it is the opposite.
    I was confused, because your pic shows round threads all the way to the top, while ALL V3's have
    on the front top a section to fit a wrench, which is missing on yours. So, yours is completely off,
    now what do you want? Call the dude who sold you damaged V3's and/or contact KW to find out
    how much it is to fix.

    Edit:

    This pic below is fact (B= BUMP, R= Rebound ) as I had put in your other thread.
    I know V3's very well, I just never saw the tops broken off to look like yours.
    How does that happen? No clue. But, should have taken you 2 minutes to figure out,
    ONLY V3's have bump setting.

    Sorry man i keep writing rebound where i want to write bump. i want to thank you for all your help i really appreciate it
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