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    Thread: Golf VII - hope for AWD?

    1. 04-29-2012 02:04 AM #1
      I remember reading a news story somewhere (perhaps Autoblog) where an interviewed VW official said to expect more AWD options from VW in the American market in the future.

      Is it reasonable to hope that the Golf VII will be available with AWD in the United States? I know we didn't get a MKVI AWD option until near the end of the model run with the top-of-the-line Golf R, but I would love to see a more affordable AWD option available for those of us who don't need all of the performance/power/expense of an R-model.

      Any thoughts?

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      04-29-2012 12:05 PM #2
      with the mqb system its very likely we will see it. I bet they still nerf our cars some how. It would also be nice if by uping the low end with awd they would bring an rs, but they probably wont bring it here.

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      04-29-2012 04:17 PM #3
      Maybe VW will look at how well Suzuki does selling the AWD Kizashi model at $22000 base price. I would love to see a Golf AWD in the mid 20's.

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      04-30-2012 11:28 AM #4
      Really hoping for a detuned k04 and AWD option.
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    5. 05-01-2012 05:11 PM #5
      Quote Originally Posted by jgrantco View Post
      Maybe VW will look at how well Suzuki does selling the AWD Kizashi model at $22000 base price. I would love to see a Golf AWD in the mid 20's.
      You mean the same Suzuki that is barely clinging to life in the US Market? Hard to make many judgements based on what happens to them.

      I went from a VW Jetta (MKV) to a Subaru just to get AWD. I gave up many things I loved about the VW just to get a car that would do better on the rarely plowed roads and long commute I need to deal with in the winter. VW would have me back in their camp immediately if they sold somewhat affordable AWD cars.

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      05-01-2012 09:25 PM #6
      Yeah, the AWD Tiguan starts a bit high, and isn't available with a manual transmission. It is often said that the Puebla plant is not laid out for AWD drive trains - but that is wrong; the MkIV and MkV (Golf Variant) were available with 4Motion in Europe. And, things could change with the MQB architecture. So, perhaps at one point we could see an AWD JSW or Jetta sedan.

      It is also pretty clear that VW will build a crossover or an SUV or two at Chattanooga. However, those would be at the minimum Passat-sized, that is comparable to an Outback.

      It looks to me like VW doesn't believe there is much profit in small cars in the US. which is also the reason why we don't get anything smaller than the Golf (especially if it is manufactured in expensive Europe). As long as the Golf is imported to the US from Germany, I doubt things will change. But perhaps we will get more options on the Tiguan; for example, supposedly we will finally get a TDI.

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      05-01-2012 10:20 PM #7
      Quote Originally Posted by jgrantco View Post
      Maybe VW will look at how well Suzuki does selling the AWD Kizashi model at $22000 base price. I would love to see a Golf AWD in the mid 20's.
      Just quoted from another thread - so don't shoot me for any lack of accuracy. April 2012 sales:

      Camry 36,820 +36.1%
      Accord 35,385 +41.3%
      Malibu 21,906 -11.3%
      Fusion 21,610 +2%
      Sonata 20,521
      Altima 16,239 -5.8%
      200 13,343 +61%
      Avenger 11,147 +47%
      Optima 11,021
      Passat 10,096
      Legacy 3,799 -4.43%
      6 3,780 +38.3%
      Kizashi 464 -20%

      or if you prefer to compare a class smaller:

      Corolla 24,804 +15.2%
      Civic 24,423 -8.8%
      Focus 19,425 +12.5%
      Cruze 18,205 -27.6%
      Elantra 16,836
      Jetta 15,658 -7.6%
      3 8,508 -.9%
      Sentra 7,410 -20.9%
      Forte 7,053
      Impreza 6,791 +124.2%
      Golf 3,876 +14.6%

      and:

      Versa 8,335 +30%
      Sonic 6,599 +12.1%
      Accent 6,160
      Fiesta 5,135 -43.9%
      Yaris 4,274 +142%
      Rio 4,006
      Fit 3,202 -55.6%
      2 1,048 -23.4%
      SX4 854 -15%


    8. 05-02-2012 06:25 PM #8
      Quote Originally Posted by feels_road View Post
      Yeah, the AWD Tiguan starts a bit high, and isn't available with a manual transmission. It is often said that the Puebla plant is not laid out for AWD drive trains - but that is wrong; the MkIV and MkV (Golf Variant) were available with 4Motion in Europe. And, things could change with the MQB architecture. So, perhaps at one point we could see an AWD JSW or Jetta sedan.

      It is also pretty clear that VW will build a crossover or an SUV or two at Chattanooga. However, those would be at the minimum Passat-sized, that is comparable to an Outback.

      It looks to me like VW doesn't believe there is much profit in small cars in the US. which is also the reason why we don't get anything smaller than the Golf (especially if it is manufactured in expensive Europe). As long as the Golf is imported to the US from Germany, I doubt things will change. But perhaps we will get more options on the Tiguan; for example, supposedly we will finally get a TDI.
      Very possible that VW may just not see any money in it. I only want and AWD car due to living in Maine and having a long commute. For people in many parts of the country, AWD just eats gas. The number of available AWD cars under $24K is pretty small, and I don't find myself wanting to pickup a Tiguan over a Jetta/Golf just to drive back and forth to work in the snow. I ended up with a Subaru simply because there aren't many options. Subaru created its own niche with an AWD lineup, and it really shows in the Northeast. There are times I park at the store and every other car in an entire row is a Subaru. When you look at my company parking lot on a snowy days, its all trucks, C/SUVs, and Subarus lined up out there. Anyway I like VW and hope they provide me with and affordable way to get back into one

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      05-03-2012 08:44 AM #9
      Most manufacturers seem to think the small, inexpensive AWD isn't worth the cost, I would be surprised if VW does. They don't do the Passat in AWD, even with the VR6, and I think this would be a higher pick for AWD.

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      05-03-2012 03:52 PM #10
      Quote Originally Posted by jgrantco View Post
      Maybe VW will look at how well Suzuki does selling the AWD Kizashi model at $22000 base price. I would love to see a Golf AWD in the mid 20's.
      I thought he was being sarcastic when he said this... I'm a huge car person and I've never even HEARD of a Kizashi. Hahahaha.

    11. 05-03-2012 04:18 PM #11
      Quote Originally Posted by jsausley View Post
      I thought he was being sarcastic when he said this... I'm a huge car person and I've never even HEARD of a Kizashi. Hahahaha.
      It is a great car and the front end looks like they lifted the basic design right off a MKV Jetta Only problem is that it is a Suzuki, which means terrible resale value, few dealers (many of which are failing), and a company that hasn't exactly been well managed over the last decade.

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      05-03-2012 04:31 PM #12
      Quote Originally Posted by jsausley View Post
      I thought he was being sarcastic when he said this... I'm a huge car person and I've never even HEARD of a Kizashi. Hahahaha.
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      Sad part is I know I've seen one, but never knew what it was called.
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      07-18-2012 04:19 AM #13
      My sister recently bough a Suzuki SX4 sport sedan, cute little car. I have like the suzukis, owned a grand vitara before and for what it was it was a great car.

      I never heard of the Kizashi till i went to the dealer, a good looking car, with a very nice fit and finish after looking it over. Surprisingly i have started to see many of them here in Edmonton Canada.
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    14. 07-18-2012 02:14 PM #14
      Quote Originally Posted by [pl] View Post
      My sister recently bough a Suzuki SX4 sport sedan, cute little car. I have like the suzukis, owned a grand vitara before and for what it was it was a great car.

      I never heard of the Kizashi till i went to the dealer, a good looking car, with a very nice fit and finish after looking it over. Surprisingly i have started to see many of them here in Edmonton Canada.
      I think a lot of the smaller Asian manufacturers have their **** together in the styling and performance department in recent years. I cannot think of a honda/toyota/nissan that I would take over most of the Kia/Hyundai/Suzuki models. 10 years ago, I would have stuck my nose up at those brands, especially Hyundai, but they are killing it. Not that I am going to leave VW/AUDI anytime soon.

    15. 08-02-2012 11:22 AM #15
      Quote Originally Posted by jgrantco View Post
      Maybe VW will look at how well Suzuki does selling the AWD Kizashi model at $22000 base price. I would love to see a Golf AWD in the mid 20's.
      They don't sell it well, because there is like what 1 suzuki dealer every 500 miles or something? No advertising etc.

      interior is awesome, its awd, it looks good, decent gas. Its better than civics and stuff but nobody has seen it or heard of it.



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      09-06-2012 03:36 PM #16
      It would be great to get an AWD version but I don't think that fits in with VW scheme. It seems like they want to go back to basic with the Golf (and the GTI) in particular. It is supposed to be a hot hatch (read a hot cheap hatch). I think they will probably be looking at keeping the costs down esp with the ever increasing growth in the Korean/Japanese market.

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      09-06-2012 06:59 PM #17
      Quote Originally Posted by roger2050 View Post
      Really hoping for a detuned k04 and AWD option.
      Do you realize you have basically described the current MK6 Golf R?

      And you are probably right. The best chance the US has for seeing an AWD MK7 Golf is in the "highend" "R" configuration.

      If anyone is seriously expecting AWD option in a base Golf configuration, I have some swamp land in Florida I would love to sell you.

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      09-07-2012 05:48 AM #18
      The new Golf will in europe get the 4motion option on two diesel versons.
      1.6 TDI 105hp 6 speed manual 4 motion (starts produktion in week 45)
      2.0 TDI 150hp 6 speed manual 4 motion (starts produktion in week 45)

      The new Golf R (fall of 2013) will have 290hp.

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