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    Thread: APR Stage 2+ at the strip.

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      04-30-2012 01:01 AM #26
      Quote Originally Posted by s t a y g o l d View Post
      No, I'm not. would that make a huge difference? I was under the impression that those modifications were subtle.
      Going tune without atleast updating your DV is not a good idea. This may be why you noticed a drop in performance you probably blew your stock DV. This is an updated oem style version for a good price.

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      04-30-2012 02:11 AM #27
      Quote Originally Posted by Zaedrous View Post
      Going tune without atleast updating your DV is not a good idea. This may be why you noticed a drop in performance you probably blew your stock DV. This is an updated oem style version for a good price.

      http://www.ecstuning.com/Volkswagen-...alve/ES263879/
      my DV is fine, no leaks or loss of pressure.
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      We don't want to see pictures of your poverty Jetta in this thread. Why is it so hard to understand?

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      04-30-2012 02:03 PM #28
      Quote Originally Posted by s t a y g o l d View Post
      my DV is fine, no leaks or loss of pressure.
      I find it funny that people insist on "upgrading" a DV that's still functioning. If it's fine, it's fine. If it blows, THEN upgrade it people

      You're numbers are indeed pretty slow for stage 2, but in your defense:

      - it's a Jetta (not GTI), slightly heavier car...
      - it was 90 degrees...most likely the MAIN culprit right there
      - bad clutch, a little slip here and there could easily slow you down

      And yes, stage 2+ requires an upgraded hpfp. You are stage 2. Not a HUGE difference, but there is a difference.

      The main thing is that you had fun, right?
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      04-30-2012 02:32 PM #29
      Hey man you beat my 18.xx hahaha. The track was too wet. They had no business opening and I had no business going. At least I got a refund.

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      04-30-2012 02:45 PM #30
      A working DV is a good DV

      Have fun & drive safe! All that matters.

      Heggz - you going to SOWO next month?

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      04-30-2012 03:02 PM #31
      Quote Originally Posted by TheHeggz View Post
      I find it funny that people insist on "upgrading" a DV that's still functioning. If it's fine, it's fine. If it blows, THEN upgrade it people

      You're numbers are indeed pretty slow for stage 2, but in your defense:

      - it's a Jetta (not GTI), slightly heavier car...
      - it was 90 degrees...most likely the MAIN culprit right there
      - bad clutch, a little slip here and there could easily slow you down

      And yes, stage 2+ requires an upgraded hpfp. You are stage 2. Not a HUGE difference, but there is a difference.

      The main thing is that you had fun, right?
      I wasn't trying to be an ass I'm simply trying to help the guy. The DV is a common failure on the FSI motor and even fails under stock tune mine did at 100k miles. Sorry for trying to help.
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      04-30-2012 06:39 PM #32
      Quote Originally Posted by eatonrabbit. View Post
      A working DV is a good DV

      Have fun & drive safe! All that matters.

      Heggz - you going to SOWO next month?
      I don't even know where that is haha, I'm not into the show scene, but if there was a local one I might find my way there. They have some in our local mountains from time to time, still haven't made any of those yet.

      Quote Originally Posted by Zaedrous View Post
      I wasn't trying to be an ass I'm simply trying to help the guy. The DV is a common failure on the FSI motor and even fails under stock tune mine did at 100k miles. Sorry for trying to help.
      Relax good sir, it wasn't a personal attack. I just see people toss around common problems on here becuase they read it somewhere, not realizing that there would be accompanying symptoms. If he had a torn DV, I can bet that he'd probably do a lot worse than high 14s haha. Yes they do fail under stock conditions sometimes, but they also stay alive under tuned conditions for unknown reasons...e.g. my 05.5 A4 had a revision B that was still problem free when I traded it in at almost 80k miles...and that was running APR stage 2 most of the time
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      04-30-2012 07:00 PM #33
      Quote Originally Posted by TheHeggz View Post
      I find it funny that people insist on "upgrading" a DV that's still functioning. If it's fine, it's fine. If it blows, THEN upgrade it people

      You're numbers are indeed pretty slow for stage 2, but in your defense:

      - it's a Jetta (not GTI), slightly heavier car...
      - it was 90 degrees...most likely the MAIN culprit right there
      - bad clutch, a little slip here and there could easily slow you down

      And yes, stage 2+ requires an upgraded hpfp. You are stage 2. Not a HUGE difference, but there is a difference.

      The main thing is that you had fun, right?
      Exactly. It was definitely a blast. After last night though, I'm seriously reconsidering a BT upgrade.

      .....I fell in love with the E46 M3 and you can get an 03 for like 12k!?! Did not know that, so with the $ I have saved up, I may add a second car to my 'stable' and leave my wolfy the way it sits now. Decisions.
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      We don't want to see pictures of your poverty Jetta in this thread. Why is it so hard to understand?

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      04-30-2012 08:02 PM #34
      Quote Originally Posted by s t a y g o l d View Post
      Exactly. It was definitely a blast. After last night though, I'm seriously reconsidering a BT upgrade.

      .....I fell in love with the E46 M3 and you can get an 03 for like 12k!?! Did not know that, so with the $ I have saved up, I may add a second car to my 'stable' and leave my wolfy the way it sits now. Decisions.
      I'm planing on going K04 when I can, but that's as BT as I see practical for mostly daily driving.

      E46 M3s are definitely the bee's knees, but as far as I see, a decent one is still 20k+ and you're looking at a 10 year old car with a high output V6...may be a money pit, but definitely a nice one That's in my area anyway...I saw nothing for 13k, lowest was 16k with over 100k milesfrom a private seller...
      Quote Originally Posted by cracKness View Post
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      04-30-2012 09:10 PM #35
      Quote Originally Posted by TheHeggz View Post
      I'm planing on going K04 when I can, but that's as BT as I see practical for mostly daily driving.

      E46 M3s are definitely the bee's knees, but as far as I see, a decent one is still 20k+ and you're looking at a 10 year old car with a high output V6...may be a money pit, but definitely a nice one That's in my area anyway...I saw nothing for 13k, lowest was 16k with over 100k milesfrom a private seller...
      Yeah that was my first choice too, but I figured I might as well just go all the way and have the local shop tune it to be as street-able as possible. Not sure, I still may go BT, but man those M3's are just all kinds of sexy

      Where are you located? I'm willing to devote the time & money into it for sure. I've been looking around here (AZ) Vegas, CO, CA, and TX. There's some decent ones around with 70k-100k Miles for 11,000-16,000. and Once I sell my wheels I'll have roughly 16 saved Of course I'll be keeping my VW, but once/if I get the M, I doubt I'll be on here much
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      We don't want to see pictures of your poverty Jetta in this thread. Why is it so hard to understand?

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      04-30-2012 09:22 PM #36
      on ****ty tires i ran a 14.2 with so much spin and wheel hop your head would hurt. i could easily hit 13s with better tires im unitronic stage 2 so im kind of suprised you arnt a bit lower. Im guessing it being your first time you would need to get used to it . i know i did, drag racing takes some time getting used to.
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      04-30-2012 09:26 PM #37
      Quote Originally Posted by vortexn View Post
      on ****ty tires i ran a 14.2 with so much spin and wheel hop your head would hurt. i could easily hit 13s with better tires im unitronic stage 2 so im kind of suprised you arnt a bit lower. Im guessing it being your first time you would need to get used to it . i know i did, drag racing takes some time getting used to.
      Yeah most likely. Also, not sure if this is true or not but, I've heard that the UNI tune is more aggressive than APR's tune. Either way it wasn't really about trying to get a super fast time, I just thought I'd post for reference. It was extremely fun regardless
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      04-30-2012 09:27 PM #38
      Quote Originally Posted by s t a y g o l d View Post
      Yeah most likely. Also, not sure if this is true or not but, I've heard that the UNI tune is more aggressive than APR's tune. Either way it wasn't really about trying to get a super fast time, I just thought I'd post for reference. It was extremely fun regardless
      ofcourse, I loved going to the track but i think this year sence my funds are little, im going to take some crappy 16s with decent tires so i dont roast my good ones lol
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      04-30-2012 09:36 PM #39
      I love the "I heard uni's tune is more aggressive..." quote.

      Didn't another thread show the uni had more boost yet was practically dead even power-wise with apr's "less aggressive low boost" tune?

      Just because you saw someone say it on vortex doesn't mean it's always true
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      04-30-2012 09:44 PM #40
      Quote Originally Posted by bryangb View Post
      I love the "I heard uni's tune is more aggressive..." quote.

      Didn't another thread show the uni had more boost yet was practically dead even power-wise with apr's "less aggressive low boost" tune?

      Just because you saw someone say it on vortex doesn't mean it's always true
      Read the entire post mister. "NOT SURE IF THIS IS TRUE OR NOT." I forgive you, without you even asking
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      04-30-2012 10:06 PM #41
      UNI tune isn't any more aggressive necessarily. From what I've seen, slightly more horsepower, but slightly less torque. It could be a wash.

      I'm in SoCal, so I know about the dry heat in AZ lol. 90 degrees was probably the main culprit honestly. Then there's how long you were sitting there idling before you got to run (heatsoak), physical track conditions, any slight grade the track may have, etc. It's really not fair to compare times unless you were at the same track, waiting in the same line, running in the same lane, at the same time....

      Your best bet would be to compare your times to other people there that night. Were the cars that usually run 12s anywhere else in the country, running 13s? Etc. Same thing with dynos; too many factors to try to compare your numbers to someone elses.
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      04-30-2012 10:44 PM #42
      Quote Originally Posted by s t a y g o l d View Post
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      04-30-2012 11:02 PM #43
      Quote Originally Posted by TheHeggz View Post
      UNI tune isn't any more aggressive necessarily. From what I've seen, slightly more horsepower, but slightly less torque. It could be a wash.

      I'm in SoCal, so I know about the dry heat in AZ lol. 90 degrees was probably the main culprit honestly. Then there's how long you were sitting there idling before you got to run (heatsoak), physical track conditions, any slight grade the track may have, etc. It's really not fair to compare times unless you were at the same track, waiting in the same line, running in the same lane, at the same time....

      Your best bet would be to compare your times to other people there that night. Were the cars that usually run 12s anywhere else in the country, running 13s? Etc. Same thing with dynos; too many factors to try to compare your numbers to someone elses.

      Yeah definitely, it was an event/car show also so it was PACKED. it was about a 15/20min wait per run. I'm definitely dreading the next few months of heat though, 100 degrees while the sun is down is retarded.

      Honestly, I didn't really keep track of any other cars, although I DID race a MK6 GTI running w/m and he only ran a 14.3, so it was most likely the heat.

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      04-30-2012 11:30 PM #44
      As fun as it may be, I wouldn't even bother paying to do a few runs in 90+ degree heat. Sitting there and idling waiting for your turn in that heat isn't much help either
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      04-30-2012 11:45 PM #45
      Quote Originally Posted by bryangb View Post
      As fun as it may be, I wouldn't even bother paying to do a few runs in 90+ degree heat. Sitting there and idling waiting for your turn in that heat isn't much help either
      Well yeah, by myself definitely not. But when you go with 8-10 other guys in 5-6 other cars, its more about the camaraderie than anything. was a great time, plus 20 bucks to run as much as you can until midnight? not too bad. They had a burnout contest and food/drink etc. Plus they sell 106 octane fuel will definitely get some next time & run the 100octane program. it was a good time
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      05-01-2012 12:02 AM #46
      $20 ain't too shabby. Throw beer in that list and I'm down
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      Thread revival, now i have a GTi DSG stock i ran 14.8

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    23. 04-22-2013 12:50 PM #48
      altitude? Must be a factor

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      Quote Originally Posted by 02GTI-VR6-same1 View Post
      altitude? Must be a factor
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