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      04-29-2012 04:36 PM #1
      So I put a deposit on an R at the local dealer so when it came in I'd have first choice on the car. Well they called me today and I went and checked it out. It's a white, base 2dr which is what I was looking for...HOWEVER the dealership is asking get this.....41,000 for a BASE 2dr... Originally I was informed the vehicle would be 35k when it came in as equipped. Well I talked to the manager to work a deal with them and as of now they won't budge on the price.

      Should I keep trying to negotiate it with them or say screw it and start looking elsewhere?
      I spent a good three hurs at the dealer today trying to work out a price and the only thing they gave in was free extended warranty...
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      04-29-2012 04:38 PM #2
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      04-29-2012 04:41 PM #3
      I would laugh at them and walk away. I paid Msrp for my 2dr loaded.

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      04-29-2012 04:41 PM #4
      Quote Originally Posted by .:AreThirteeTwo View Post
      So I put a deposit on an R at the local dealer so when it came in I'd have first choice on the car. Well they called me today and I went and checked it out. It's a white, base 2dr which is what I was looking for...HOWEVER the dealership is asking get this.....41,000 for a BASE 2dr... Originally I was informed the vehicle would be 35k when it came in as equipped. Well I talked to the manager to work a deal with them and as of now they won't budge on the price.

      Should I keep trying to negotiate it with them or say screw it and start looking elsewhere?
      I spent a good three hurs at the dealer today trying to work out a price and the only thing they gave in was free extended warranty...
      What!! tell them to Fuc# off!! My dealer Discounted my car $1300 off sticker.
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      04-29-2012 04:59 PM #5
      Wow. I've been driving around in my car for 3 months... I feel slightly dirty for having paid "full MSRP" for it but at least I didn't pay over MSRP, and there were no absurd fees to go along with it.

      Just tell them that you would happily make an offer of $33,230 + $770 destination = $34,000 today. I feel like thats a fair price. And to give you a call when they're willing to sell it for that.

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      04-29-2012 05:13 PM #6
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      04-29-2012 07:02 PM #7
      I had to double check the date to make sure this was current ! I paid $448 under msrp at Darcars in MD for a white 4 dr loaded. A plane ticket out of state would be worth the savings.

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      04-29-2012 09:21 PM #8
      Walk away and keep looking. That is crazy. Sticker was $36,260 on mine and I paid $34,510. That's close to invoice. The car was 3 hours away so I bought a $40 bus ticket and went and picked it up and drove it back. Prices are coming down and they will continue to drop closer to invoice. My local dealer is selling one here for close to invoice as well.

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      04-30-2012 01:23 AM #9
      Quote Originally Posted by Cowclops View Post
      Wow. I've been driving around in my car for 3 months... I feel slightly dirty for having paid "full MSRP" for it but at least I didn't pay over MSRP, and there were no absurd fees to go along with it.

      Just tell them that you would happily make an offer of $33,230 + $770 destination = $34,000 today. I feel like thats a fair price. And to give you a call when they're willing to sell it for that.
      I paid msrp too so dont feel to bad. Im up in saratoga right now. Just saw my frist R on 87 today csg.

    10. 04-30-2012 03:03 AM #10
      Quote Originally Posted by .:AreThirteeTwo View Post
      So I put a deposit on an R at the local dealer so when it came in I'd have first choice on the car. Well they called me today and I went and checked it out. It's a white, base 2dr which is what I was looking for...HOWEVER the dealership is asking get this.....41,000 for a BASE 2dr... Originally I was informed the vehicle would be 35k when it came in as equipped. Well I talked to the manager to work a deal with them and as of now they won't budge on the price.

      Should I keep trying to negotiate it with them or say screw it and start looking elsewhere?
      I spent a good three hurs at the dealer today trying to work out a price and the only thing they gave in was free extended warranty...

      If you order from Commonwealth VW in santa ana/orange, they will only charge msrp.
      I've seen this happen, in other peoples lives, now its happened in mine...... <------ME New Phaeton Owner.

    11. 04-30-2012 05:09 AM #11
      $ 41,000 for a base! What dealer? Thats ridiculous

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      04-30-2012 08:22 AM #12
      Inform them that the car is not as "exclusive" as they may think it is, and that you could always just get a 2013...

      But at this stage...I would tell them to **** off and look elsewhere. A dealer like that doesn't deserve your business.

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      04-30-2012 09:18 AM #13
      Don't consider giving that dealership business. These cars aren't as "unavailable" as you may think. While you can't get as good a price as other cars because of the limited production, there are dealerships that will work with you. I was able to get just around $1100 off MSRP. I didn't have to do the "I'm walking away" and maybe I could have done a bit better. That being said, I first went to cars.com, found some potential Rs, called the dealerships to find out if they were still available. Only 1 dealership around me was charging over MSRP, and it did the same thing when the 2004 R32 came out. If you don't find any fairly close by, consider a 2013. Make sure before ordering that you are getting the same price if you were to buy a 2012. I ordered a 2013 but paid the 2012 price. They aren't changing between model years.
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      04-30-2012 02:09 PM #14
      Quote Originally Posted by b-R-ad View Post
      Inform them that the car is not as "exclusive" as they may think it is, and that you could always just get a 2013...

      But at this stage...I would tell them to **** off and look elsewhere. A dealer like that doesn't deserve your business.
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      04-30-2012 02:22 PM #15
      Quote Originally Posted by ppack View Post
      $ 41,000 for a base! What dealer? Thats ridiculous
      It was fladeboe vw in irvine. I told them to give me my deposit back and that they lost a sale unless they can bring the price down to 33k plus closing costs and what not.
      But my hopes are not up on this
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      04-30-2012 02:27 PM #16
      Go out into the woods, find yourself a nice thick rough branch, and shove it up the sales managers ass. It sounds like that's what he's trying to do to customers anyway..
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      04-30-2012 02:37 PM #17
      Quote Originally Posted by .:AreThirteeTwo View Post
      It was fladeboe vw in irvine. I told them to give me my deposit back and that they lost a sale unless they can bring the price down to 33k plus closing costs and what not.
      But my hopes are not up on this
      I dont know how badly you want it, but id say just try to get them back to sticker. In your neck of the woods i think that is the usual. 33k may not happen even if they were a reasonable dealer.

      just my .02.

      Let me run a search and see if anyone else is showing a similar car in stock. i dont see them going from 6k over sticker to 2k under sticker for you. maybe better luck with a different dealer. id white only color you would take?
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      04-30-2012 02:41 PM #18
      there are 17 2dr base Rs total, not marked sold in Califonia. PM me and ill get you details
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      04-30-2012 02:55 PM #19
      Quote Originally Posted by 1.8turboB5 View Post
      there are 17 2dr base Rs total, not marked sold in Califonia. PM me and ill get you details
      Wow thank you for your help,
      As for color, any color besides red and blue are what I was looking for
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      04-30-2012 04:39 PM #20
      Quote Originally Posted by .:AreThirteeTwo View Post
      So I put a deposit on an R at the local dealer so when it came in I'd have first choice on the car. Well they called me today and I went and checked it out. It's a white, base 2dr which is what I was looking for...HOWEVER the dealership is asking get this.....41,000 for a BASE 2dr... Originally I was informed the vehicle would be 35k when it came in as equipped. Well I talked to the manager to work a deal with them and as of now they won't budge on the price.

      Should I keep trying to negotiate it with them or say screw it and start looking elsewhere?
      I spent a good three hurs at the dealer today trying to work out a price and the only thing they gave in was free extended warranty...
      At 41K that car is going to rot into the ground...

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      04-30-2012 05:18 PM #21
      I have no new input for this thread.
      However, I cannot help but want to post something regarding the issue...

      Hmm, maybe you could let them know that the entire VWVortex board (one that had a lot to do with this car actually being sold within their dealership) is laughing at their entire managerial crew. Ensure them of the horrible PR they are receiving right now.


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      04-30-2012 05:36 PM #22
      I can help you , I work at Puente Hills VW, Fleet manager. call me 626-965-7500 I have your car in stock just came in Candy white 2dr base.


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    23. 04-30-2012 09:57 PM #23
      Quote Originally Posted by trueunion View Post
      I can help you , I work at Puente Hills VW, Fleet manager. call me 626-965-7500 I have your car in stock just came in Candy white 2dr base.


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      As a completely removed third party, I'd like to personally thank you for offering to build a business relationship vs. a brick wall. I hope you sell a car and gain a loyal customer.

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      04-30-2012 10:31 PM #24
      which dealership are we talking about here? I am in san clemente also, would be cool to have another R around town...
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      05-01-2012 02:43 AM #25
      Puente Hills VW city of Industry in CA thanks I just bought my R and I will assist you anybody looking for a New VW.
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      05-01-2012 02:45 AM #26
      My new R love the car.


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      05-01-2012 04:31 PM #27
      Saw this thread yesterday...this morning I did a quick Autotrader run, and it shows 257 Golf R's available currently at US dealers. Most of them are posting MSRP as asking price, a few have discounts listed, I think I came across only one with an inflated price.
      Don't know what the OP ended up doing, but I'd say it would be pretty easy to find one that you like for MSRP or less.
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      05-01-2012 05:10 PM #28
      I've got a deposit on a 4dr RB loaded for $35400. I have that price in writing. Virginia dealership. The only catch is that I still have to wait 2 1/2 months for it, but I don't mind. Definitely do NOT pay that absurd markup.

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    29. 05-01-2012 05:29 PM #29
      Quote Originally Posted by GTISheikh View Post
      I've got a deposit on a 4dr RB loaded for $35400. I have that price in writing. Virginia dealership. The only catch is that I still have to wait 2 1/2 months for it, but I don't mind. Definitely do NOT pay that absurd markup.

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      So, essentially invoice? Are they charging you a "processing" fee, too?

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      05-01-2012 08:56 PM #30
      I'll be honest: I'm not real sure. I'll give them a call and update here. I always buy the warranty and wheel coverage, so they'll be getting that extra money from me. But since this is my 5th VW since 2004, I'm expecting not to get shafted.

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      05-01-2012 09:08 PM #31
      That disgusts me.
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      What's that, exactly?

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      08-09-2012 05:31 PM #33
      My 2013 is in (4DR loaded) and dealer offers me 36152.00 which he says is 500.00 over invoice 35652.00. Thoughts?

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      08-09-2012 06:45 PM #34
      so did you get your deposit money back?
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      08-09-2012 11:06 PM #35
      i bought my car from a long time family friend, weve bought several cars from his company and he always hooks it up. paid a tad under msrp, but he told us that since these cars are the coolest cars any vw dealer has ever had, they try and sell them for a 4k premium. and, your average consumer will pay that after they get behind the wheel. so thats probably what theyre holding out for. unfortunately, they dont want to sell these cars to the informed buyer. the car for the price is out there, just keep looking. what about that dealer that posted he had 3 for msrp? did they sell?
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