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    04-29-2012 06:19 PM #1
    So yesterday was the KCH2O annual meet and greet get together. It was about a 2 hour drive there maybe 80 miles in, my tire decided give up. It blew out while I was going 75 - 80 mph. Lucky for me, there was no body in the right lane so I was able to pull over pretty quick and the actual beads are all still intact so the wheel was never really on the pavement.

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    I dont know what the hell happened. The tires are brand new, and had maybe a little more than 100 miles on them since I put the wheels on last sunday. I pumped 50 psi in the tires but I doubt that was the problem. Stretch was 205/45 on a 17x8.5 so nothing too ridiculous. Even the outside tire face, the side wall is very soft so we were all assuming it was a tire failure. What do you all think? Should I call up falken or is that due to stretching? I cant complain to a tire shop since I mounted the tires my self :/

    Anyways, I could have had it towed back home but that would have been $400+ so I said **** it, and carried on to the meet with hopes of borrowing someones spare (since I dont have one).


    So I get there, grab someones spare and throw it on. All is well. Hang out with everyone (great meet/gathering btw) and then I fell trying to climb over a wall and scraped my leg a little bit. Shortly after, I got bit by a dog

    After a few hours I decided to leave and went about 5 minutes before I had to pull over again. There was a loud scraping noise coming from the passenger front wheel well. I figured it was the wheel bearing since I heard the scraping sound every once in a while but after the tire failure, it was even worse! So just my luck, I had to have my dad come and drive all the way out there with a uhaul trailer and pick me up



    Luckily, I checked everything out today and the bearing seems fine...it was the stupid brake cover/dust shield. I guess it was pretty close to the rotor before and after the tire incident, it somehow got worse because the cover was right up against the rotor. It was a quick fix but it is probably good that I trailored the car home since the spare sounds funny at 20+ mph. I am pretty sure it isnt rubbing but who knows.

    Anyways, the weekend was very eventful; I lost $215 from the first tow, need a new tire, scraped a good bit of the paint off the front valence, have a scraped leg and a sweet dog bite. At least I dont need to buy new bearings and I got good mileage going all the way there

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    04-29-2012 06:27 PM #2
    ... Wow... Just wow, and I thought I had bad luck.
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    04-29-2012 06:29 PM #3
    that tire is gnarly. sorry to hear about your luck
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    04-29-2012 06:32 PM #4
    Glad to see you made it home, Jon. Hopefully next next year it goes a lot smoother.

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    04-29-2012 06:36 PM #5
    Hey duder. Yeah I didnt get home until about 1. The only place my dad could find a trailer was half way to saint louis.

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    04-29-2012 06:36 PM #6
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    04-29-2012 06:42 PM #7
    What a weekend...

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    04-29-2012 06:43 PM #8
    damn, and i thought my weekend was bad.... sorry to hear man



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    04-29-2012 06:44 PM #9
    Quote Originally Posted by bboy_jon View Post
    Hey duder. Yeah I didnt get home until about 1. The only place my dad could find a trailer was half way to saint louis.
    Damn! That sucks. I'm thinkin of converting the Jetta to a mk3 tdi, next time I can just tow you home myself lol.

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    04-29-2012 06:47 PM #10
    Quote Originally Posted by 01golfgls View Post
    Damn! That sucks. I'm thinkin of converting the Jetta to a mk3 tdi, next time I can just tow you home myself lol.
    do it man.

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    04-29-2012 06:54 PM #11
    You didnt thought on putting tires with the correct width on the rim???? this is exactly what happens if you put a undersized width tire on any rim
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    04-29-2012 06:54 PM #12
    You're in a bit of a pickle, since you mounted the tires yourself, you aren't allowed the standard warranty.
    I know that at my tire shop, if a customer comes back with a sidewall blown out, the manufacturer of the tire is obligated to replace it for free because we are licensed tire techs, ruling out the possibility of it being our fault even if it is.
    Tire's do blow out for no reason. The sidewall radial belt can be faulty, defective, just like any other car part. It happens.
    This is from our Falken warranty claim booklet:
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    At the time of purchase, the tire(s) must be properly installed, balanced, and air pressure set to the vehicle manufacturer’s recommendation. At least monthly the owner must check air pressure with a gauge and reinflate to recommended level. Every 5,000 miles tires must be rotated. Staggard fitments are not covered by our mileage warranty, and the proof of compliance must be recorded on the Warranty Card.
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    You must pay any costs for mounting, balancing, or any other service charges, including applicable taxes.
    Your best bet is to get in contact with a Falken representative and see if you can get it replaced at a discount. Although even I wouldn't expect that much

    Edit: Ignore the guy above this post. Stretching tires has NOTHING to do with the reason this particular tire blew out. Things like this just randomly happen, and I hate hearing that it happened to a fellow vw enthusiast.
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    04-29-2012 07:04 PM #13
    just buy a new tire its not worth waiting on a phone for nothing and theyre only $100 and have a professional mount them this time
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    04-29-2012 07:07 PM #14
    You were running 50psi in your tires??

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    04-29-2012 07:15 PM #15
    sucks dude at least your alright though. should have a professional mount them next time

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    04-29-2012 07:16 PM #16
    I've had worse...

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    04-29-2012 07:22 PM #17
    Quote Originally Posted by MechEngg View Post
    You were running 50psi in your tires??
    EXACTLY wtf!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    thats wa too much are you serious?

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    04-29-2012 07:26 PM #18
    Quote Originally Posted by criley76 View Post
    EXACTLY wtf!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    thats wa too much are you serious?
    Plus even if the tires were capable of supporting 50psi, at highway speeds tire pressure can increase another 10psi due to heat of the tires. I would recommend lowering the tire pressure immediately. I run 34psi in my tires...

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    04-29-2012 07:28 PM #19
    on my way to dod5 i got swiped by a coach bus lucky it just bumped the rear fender and now it looks like i have really bad tire burn but thats it hah. clearly the world doesnt like people going to VW meets lol

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    04-29-2012 07:33 PM #20
    Quote Originally Posted by GLI-R View Post
    You didnt thought on putting tires with the correct width on the rim???? this is exactly what happens if you put a undersized width tire on any rim
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    04-29-2012 07:34 PM #21
    sorry to hear the bad news man at least you didnt crash from the tire blowing out

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    04-29-2012 10:12 PM #22
    Yeah I figured I wouldnt be able to get a free replacement, or any for that matter. It was worth the thought.

    Ive read about people running 50 psi in their falkens, Since they need more pressure to keep the side walls on. I normally (well for the week that I had them) ran around 40 :/

    Do you think it was pressure related? All the other ones were at the same psi and they were fine, no soft sidewalls .

    I really need to take them to someone. Honestly though, I just need the tire mounted, I can stretch them myself pretty easily with the bike tube method. Mounting them required a few tire irons. Hopefully I can find someone close by willing to do it.

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    04-29-2012 10:15 PM #23
    Quote Originally Posted by bboy_jon View Post
    Yeah I figured I wouldnt be able to get a free replacement, or any for that matter. It was worth the thought.

    Ive read about people running 50 psi in their falkens, Since they need more pressure to keep the side walls on. I normally (well for the week that I had them) ran around 40 :/

    Do you think it was pressure related? All the other ones were at the same psi and they were fine, no soft sidewalls .

    I really need to take them to someone. Honestly though, I just need the tire mounted, I can stretch them myself pretty easily with the bike tube method. Mounting them required a few tire irons. Hopefully I can find someone close by willing to do it.
    I run 32 psi and never had any problems. 225 on a 9.5
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    04-29-2012 10:25 PM #24
    50psi? Rofl. I don't see how that would ever be required to keep the tire stretched, it's nearly impossible to pop a tire off the bead.
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    04-29-2012 10:28 PM #25
    Sorry man.... I know how it feels.
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    04-29-2012 10:30 PM #26
    Quote Originally Posted by MechEngg View Post
    Plus even if the tires were capable of supporting 50psi, at highway speeds tire pressure can increase another 10psi due to heat of the tires. I would recommend lowering the tire pressure immediately. I run 34psi in my tires...
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    04-29-2012 10:33 PM #27
    50 psi is most likely what made the tire sh!t the bed.

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    04-29-2012 10:36 PM #28
    Hey dude sorry to hear! Im in kcmo, and was heading out there too but I came outside morning of and someone had hit and ran my car. Jammed the passenger door in and left a huge scrape on my lefthand side . Bad weekend for KC dubbers

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sovietaced View Post
    You are an idiot. The same idiot who made the butthurt thread about us all getting along. I saw your post and I was thinking this guy must be trolling. Nope you're just that stupid.
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    04-29-2012 10:53 PM #30
    Quote Originally Posted by GLI-R View Post
    You didnt thought on putting tires with the correct width on the rim???? this is exactly what happens if you put a undersized width tire on any rim
    No.
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    04-29-2012 11:16 PM #31
    Quote Originally Posted by bboy_jon View Post
    Yeah I figured I wouldnt be able to get a free replacement, or any for that matter. It was worth the thought.

    Ive read about people running 50 psi in their falkens, Since they need more pressure to keep the side walls on. I normally (well for the week that I had them) ran around 40 :/

    Do you think it was pressure related? All the other ones were at the same psi and they were fine, no soft sidewalls .

    I really need to take them to someone. Honestly though, I just need the tire mounted, I can stretch them myself pretty easily with the bike tube method. Mounting them required a few tire irons. Hopefully I can find someone close by willing to do it.
    Like I said, it could easily have been a defective tire. It happens, ALL the time. While 50psi didn't help the tire, it definitely wasn't the CAUSE.

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    04-29-2012 11:24 PM #32
    Myself and all others run 45psi in achilles tires to keep bead.

    Im running 225 35 on a 10 and 245 35 on an 11.5, rides just fine, I agree with the fact that it was most likely a defect based on where it split.
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    04-29-2012 11:29 PM #33
    dude i had a ****ty day too! but youve got me beat! I am actually having the same weird metal scraping sound so maybe it is the dust shield. anyways hopefully everything it alright
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    04-29-2012 11:34 PM #34
    man that kinda sucks, glad the wheel didnt get mangled though and you were able to safely pull over after the tire gave out.
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    04-29-2012 11:46 PM #35
    I agree that 50psi in a tire probably won't blow it if it is just sitting there...but when you are going 75mph the pressure may increase to ~60psi because of the heat gain. Now that is ridiculously dangerous in my honest opinion....

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