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  1. Member DjBij099's Avatar
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    04-30-2012 09:53 AM #1
    Alright, the current setup in my car is as follows:


    1.8 16V
    CIS-Basic
    Schrick 276 Cams
    P&P Head
    K&N Filter
    HD Valve Springs
    Euro 50mm Intake Manifold
    Dual Outlet Exhaust Manifold
    Techtonics Catless Downpipe
    Techtonics Cat-Back
    ARP Head Studs

    I've liked this setup and it's been good to me, but I wanna change it up a bit to be a little more competitive for auto-x, my favorite sport. I've played with the distributor timing before, but I've finally come back and settled at factory 6*BTDC. This just feels right to me.

    Now I've had 2 different setups in mind and I'm looking for the one that'll give me the most overall torque/hp curve. I will start with a picture of my dyno last year. I hate to say, but I don't know where the ignition timing was during this run. Keep in mind, this was done on a dyno dynamics, which is the lowest reading dyno out there.



    Now here's one setting I had in mind:

    Keep the Schrick 276* currently in there
    Buy adjustable cam gear and advance that *4

    From what I've read, this brings back some of the cars torque yet the cams still manage to make peak power at redline.

    Here's the other setup:

    Swap the cams for TT street cams which are 254*


    If anyone would have better setup to possibly go with, please voice your opinion. Like I said, I want to play with a different setting for my car to be a little more competitive and how my motor sits I feel holds me back a little bit in auto-x since I'm in such low rpms most of the time. I don't want to go with a setup that'll be all about torque though because I do want to start going into more track events as well where I'll be in the high rpms most of the time.
    Last edited by DjBij099; 08-11-2012 at 03:46 AM.

  2. 04-30-2012 10:25 AM #2
    Schrick 268
    Megasquirt 1 v.30
    40mm intake
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    04-30-2012 02:57 PM #3
    Quote Originally Posted by psychobandito View Post
    Schrick 268
    Megasquirt 1 v.30
    40mm intake
    Is that what you have?

  4. 04-30-2012 03:17 PM #4
    No, but if he's looking for more bottom end, those are the suggestions i would make.
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    04-30-2012 03:43 PM #5
    Quote Originally Posted by psychobandito View Post
    No, but if he's looking for more bottom end, those are the suggestions i would make.
    As much as megasquirt would be better, I've come to like the CIS system only because I could work on it myself no problem. Megasquirt is not something I can see myself doing to the car. I'm not very good with electronics and CIS is all mechanical. For me, it's much more easier

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    04-30-2012 08:57 PM #6
    Don't over think MS, Its not that hard. Its worth it. Any SEM is worth it. Years ago when I did my first build 2.0 16v with just Auto tech cams it made 132hp to the wheels. I did MS, tuned it my self and made 154hp to the wheels. I know that it had more but I was still learning.
    There is nothing wrong with CIS, people make good power with it. But when you start upgrading you need to be able to get all of the power out of what ever you put in..
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    05-01-2012 12:16 AM #7
    for autox I would go for the TT ABF style cams

  8. 05-09-2012 05:11 PM #8
    We have tried three different setups in our ABF.

    Setup #1 was a bone stock ABF (real deal imported) (140whp)
    https://sites.google.com/site/quantu...t/ABF_dyno.jpg

    Then rebuilt the motor with 11:1 pistons and AutronicSM4 and a TT header and TT 268 cams and 100 octane
    Picked up about 10hp and a few tq (but was on a different dyno so who really knows) (149whp)

    Then, swapped in a set of TT 288 cams and a cone filter and took off the muffler
    Picked up another 40hp (190whp)
    http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5045/...093b26e41b.jpg

    Put the muffler back on and certainly lost a few hp but not much and no dyno since.

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    05-10-2012 12:32 AM #9
    Quote Originally Posted by QuantumRallySport View Post
    We have tried three different setups in our ABF.

    Setup #1 was a bone stock ABF (real deal imported) (140whp)
    https://sites.google.com/site/quantu...t/ABF_dyno.jpg
    I like this graph. I should put my car on a dynojet and see what my torque numbers are as well too. Probably be a better comparison as well

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