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    Thread: Question for the KO4 Guys...

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      05-08-2012 08:35 AM #26
      Quote Originally Posted by emmauslax31 View Post
      explain what hiccups? just out of curiosity, i know there will be things to smooth out but just like the leg up to know what to expect
      had some sputtering issues and car loosing power at times but with help frm a friend some new plugs and i dont know what else he did it ran smooth...flashed it with the k04 file and felt weird flashed it again with same file and worked good just make sure everything is up to par
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      05-08-2012 09:03 AM #27
      Stupid question....what's a ko4 upgrade?

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      05-08-2012 09:36 AM #28
      Quote Originally Posted by MasterJetti08 View Post
      Stupid question....what's a ko4 upgrade?
      ^ ^^ Google it

      To everyone else.... great info in here. Companies always say "bolt on", "Factory Smooth", "Plug n Play" and so on. That's why it's nice to see threads like this that can either confirm or deny the smoothness of transition to something like k04
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      05-08-2012 09:47 AM #29
      Yea and then it gives like a million sites that say its some sort of turbo upgrade but doesn't really tell me what it is. It a whole new turbo? Idk a lot about he turbo engines on our cars because I have a 2.5, so I just thought I'd ask. If you don't want to answer then there's really no reason to reply at all right?

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      05-08-2012 10:33 AM #30
      Quote Originally Posted by MasterJetti08 View Post
      Stupid question....what's a ko4 upgrade?
      Quote Originally Posted by MasterJetti08 View Post
      Yea and then it gives like a million sites that say its some sort of turbo upgrade but doesn't really tell me what it is. It a whole new turbo? Idk a lot about he turbo engines on our cars because I have a 2.5, so I just thought I'd ask. If you don't want to answer then there's really no reason to reply at all right?
      there is a reason to post and that reason is the information is right at your fingertips, literally in this case. If you don't know what it is or cannot get an idea of if from the posts in the thread just Google. I understand that you have a 2.5L so in your everyday life turbo talk or specifically the k04 may not be something you run into but the fact still remains that you can search for information. Educating yourself on any given topic is relatively easy these days, though my first comment may have come across mildly obnoxious and for that i am sorry, but the message is still valid.

      OP- i apologize for thread basically thread jacking and won't stray from the original thread anymore. MasterJetti08 if you have anything else to say specifically to me please feel free to pm me so that we don't clutter up this thread that's actually informative.
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      05-08-2012 10:52 AM #31
      Quote Originally Posted by MasterJetti08 View Post
      Yea and then it gives like a million sites that say its some sort of turbo upgrade but doesn't really tell me what it is. It a whole new turbo? Idk a lot about he turbo engines on our cars because I have a 2.5, so I just thought I'd ask. If you don't want to answer then there's really no reason to reply at all right?
      Google or no Google, this forum is here to answer questions, that's why its a COMMUNITY.
      The K04 that we're talking about is simply the stock turbo that is run in the Euro edition GTI (ED30) and the Euro S3. It's pretty much just a straight bolt on turbo and as long as you buy the recommended upgrades (intercooler, exhaust, software, etc), then it's bitchin to drive. It makes you go fast
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      05-08-2012 11:00 AM #32
      Thank you. That's all I wanted to know. Cluttering the thread? Wouldn't have been cluttered had he question just been answered...lol. Thanks again guesswho.

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      05-08-2012 11:02 AM #33
      This thread has been jacked .....while we are talking upgrades i have a couple quick questions?

      How fast is ko4 upgrade? I have a apr1 and I already drive way tooo fast. I can just imagine what a ko4 feels like. Where are you going to actually be able to open her up with out getting arrested? Other than a race track.

      I like to hear numbers ?

      How much $ on avg for these upgrades? Just off your head with labor? I under stand all the parts I just want off your head avg. numbers? So I can have an idea.....

      Apr 2 ?
      Apr 3 ?
      Ko4 ?
      Big turbo ?

      Thank you thank you

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      05-11-2012 05:40 AM #34
      Quote Originally Posted by RetroOrbitalBleed View Post
      This thread has been jacked .....while we are talking upgrades i have a couple quick questions?

      How fast is ko4 upgrade? I have a apr1 and I already drive way tooo fast. I can just imagine what a ko4 feels like. Where are you going to actually be able to open her up with out getting arrested? Other than a race track.

      I like to hear numbers ?

      How much $ on avg for these upgrades? Just off your head with labor? I under stand all the parts I just want off your head avg. numbers? So I can have an idea.....

      Apr 2 ?
      Apr 3 ?
      Ko4 ?
      Big turbo ?

      Thank you thank you
      OK, on a Mustang dyno I made 323hp to the wheels. Do I think that's accurate? Nope... But it feels damn close to that and is BEYOND a blast to drive... I pieced my kit together for about $1,200. Some parts bought off of the classifieds and some bought through online vendors. I did the install myself (fairly easy if you're the least bit mechanically inclined since it's pretty much just a straight swap... for the most part) so I didn't have to pay an install fee. I think I've heard of an average being around 700-1k. Takes about 2-3 days depending on your "motivation".
      Here's the parts list I made for myself (copy and pasted from one of my "stickies". not sure why i still have it, haha). Some you will need, some you won't. Again, this was just FOR ME. I'm not going to go through and erase stuff because I'm partly lazy... I will say you won't need #27. It already comes on the turbo but mine was broken when I got it. Oh, and you'll need AT LEAST a 3" down pipe, but I was stage 2 and already had one. Hope this helps.

      *Turbo/Manifold
      *S3 Injectors
      *7. 06F 145 757 F: gasket for oil pan
      *8. 06F 145 757 H: oil return line gasket (to Turbo)
      *9. 058 145 757 A: oil return line gasket (to block)
      -12. N 044 502 3: stud (x4)
      *13. N 910 848 01: hexagon socket head bolt (x4)
      *14. N 013 851 4: sealing washer (x4)
      *15. N 908 946 01: hex. nut, self-locking (x5)
      *16. N 102 861 08: shouldered hex. nut, self-locking (x4)
      *17. 06F 253 039 E: Exhaust Manifold Gasket
      *18. 06F 129 717 D: Intake Manifold Gasket
      *21. 1K0 145 762 BM: pressure pipe/s3 discharge pipe
      *24. 1K0 253 115 K: Downpipe gasket
      *25. 1K0 145 803 P: S3 Intercooler
      *26. 06D 998 907: injector install kit (x4)
      *27. 06F 906 283 F: solenoid valve
      -software-150 (APR sale)
      -HPFP rebuild-650 (APR)
      -AWE DV relocation kit-160 (namotorsports)
      -s3 intercooler pipe part number 1K0145832S
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      05-11-2012 09:34 AM #35
      Are S3 injectors also required for the TSI? Or only the FSI?

      I also read that an S3 IC wasn't large enough for a K04
      If your car feels like it's on rails, then you're going too slow.

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      05-11-2012 09:48 AM #36
      Quote Originally Posted by firstorbit84 View Post

      I also read that an S3 IC wasn't large enough for a K04
      well the S3 came with a ko4

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      05-11-2012 10:21 AM #37
      s3 intercooler is still a stock intercooler but for some people it works i just did a new itercooler upgrade from cxracing and came out nice i was doing the test fit for him and work really well....my point is if u are going to do an intercooler i would do an aftermarket one...btw if u from the L.A. area cxracing is looking for mkv to do a kit on for free
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      05-11-2012 02:52 PM #38
      Quote Originally Posted by alexj87 View Post
      well the S3 came with a ko4
      Yeah but the S3 didn't have a stock APR tune, and was only making 260hp. Over 300whp is a little different
      If your car feels like it's on rails, then you're going too slow.

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      05-11-2012 08:36 PM #39
      Quote Originally Posted by firstorbit84 View Post
      Are S3 injectors also required for the TSI? Or only the FSI?

      I also read that an S3 IC wasn't large enough for a K04
      S3 injectors are required unless you go with Revo, I believe, which uses RS4 injectors...

      As far as the intercooler goes, I live in Seattle so teh S3 is more than fine for me. If you have the coin, however, I would go with APR's or some other aftermarket one because; hell, why not?
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      05-11-2012 10:52 PM #40
      APR doesn't mention needing injectors or HPFP for the TSI K04 upgrade
      If your car feels like it's on rails, then you're going too slow.

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      05-12-2012 01:01 AM #41
      Quote Originally Posted by firstorbit84 View Post
      APR doesn't mention needing injectors or HPFP for the TSI K04 upgrade
      you dont need the HPFP, but i was under the impression that you did need the injectors. if not then thats awesome! i have an fsi, im not so lucky
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      05-14-2012 11:54 AM #42
      tsi no injectors or fuel pump required
      ko4'ed APR tuned track times coming soon

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