Would you really want to buy a car back that randomly explodes it's airbags at you?
10k miles. This was done in 2002. Shocks on the front are stock, rear are koni strt. It has a rear sway bar.
Last edited by 24vowner; 05-01-2012 at 07:44 AM.
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The average wholesale value for this car (the maximum cash value an insurance company will pay out to a customer if the car is 'totaled') is a great deal less than what it will cost to have everything repaired and re certified. Insurance companies don't like to spend a dime more than they need to. I think you'll end up with a total. If either VW or your insurance company can prove that you have compromised the air bag system of the car by you modifying or adding something electrical or mechanical to the car your settlement could take quite some time. The real issue in this situation will be seeing who pays for the settlement - your insurance company or VW. You'll likely be stuck on the side lines, watching and waiting, while VW, your insurance company and perhaps a lawyer you might need to hire spend enough money to buy you and yours brand new GTI's as they battle to determine who gets to pay the wholesale value (not a pile of money ) of the car to you . Make sure your deductible and all legal fees are added to your total payout if you end up going to court. You were an accident victim and had nothing to do with what happened. Don't give up that deductible . Hope you come out of this mess with a fair settlement and quickly
You make it sound like there's a sensor connected directly to the airbag and the sensor went on the fritz and deployed the airbags. That's just not how it works.
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I don't know how strict VW and other manufacturers are with aftermarket shocks and springs when it comes to covering the damage or accepting fault. I'm sure this has happened with cars that had both factory and aftermarket suspensions.
You would still think that the ride quality/harshness should not affect an impact sensor.
Like someone else said, when all is said and done you can probably keep the car. The question is whether the insurance company or VW will cover it. If insurance does and they total it, you can probably work a deal to get the car back. If you're handy you can probably source a used airbag and trim parts and fix it up. But hopefully you won't have to and it'll be paid for.
Last edited by mhjett; 05-01-2012 at 12:11 PM.
I'm not denying that the suppliers VW used for Mk4s were incredibly questionable, that's why I refuse to own a Mk4. You people can keep bashing VW, but they aren't the only car company that has had supplier issues.
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The insurance appraiser will be looking at the car thursday.
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In the Touareg (2003 and up), there are 6 crash sensors that are connected to the airbag control module, which then sends the signal out to the various airbags and seatbelt pre-tensioners. I would imagine that this car has a similar arrangement.
Whether it was a sensor, airbag control module, chaffed/shorted wiring, or even a severe bump in the road that caused the airbags to deploy is something for an engineer to determine. I doubt this is something that can be determined by users on this forum without seeing the vehicle.
PS: Certainly other manufactures have similar issues. I recall my father telling me years ago of a Porsche that had its airbags deploy at a PCA track event. There wasn't a crash, just hard braking.
Last edited by spockcat; 05-01-2012 at 12:51 PM.
Here's another interesting link:
From the article:
Story is about 7 years old but at least at one point VW's official policy seems to have been that they should cover the cost of the repairs.Originally Posted by Volkswagen’s spokesman Tony Fouladpour
VWoA is actually VERY receptive, the ****ing dealers on the other hand WILL try and get every cent from you.
Short story. When my heatercore went in my MK3 about 9ish years ago, VWoA good willed it, but the dealer said the foam kit was going to be $150 bucks. Asked them if the blown heatercore caused it and they said yes, VWoA covered the foam kit also.
This happened to a friend's Jetta years ago. She drove over a bumpy railroad crossing and suddenly the side curtains deployed. I believe it was fully covered and fixed for free, but at the time the car was fairly new so that may have had something to do with it. Good luck man
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Apparently they had no failures of the systems, so they gave them a clean bill of health and told dealers to not bother with a replacement unless demanded by an owner. Apparently the airbag/safety system is the best made system in an entire car.
Of course, doesn't mean the VW system is going to be the same - but they most likely are made by the same supplier (there aren't that many). VW and other brand do extensive testing to make sure this type of situation does not happen - but nothing is perfect.
Call VW and see... if not it is repairable. Might be a couple thousand dollars tho. Should not be a write off tho. Usually the car is a write off because it is the damage plus the cost of airbag replacement... You have minimal damage to repair (headliner and inspection of the failed sensor/computer that triggered the malfunction).