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    Thread: 2nd gear grinds quite often....

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      05-01-2012 11:55 AM #1
      this happens not all the time, but really only when i "throw" it in secnod.
      it grinds and then catches, a loud and honestly distrubing noise....
      any thoughts?
      much appreciated

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      05-01-2012 12:07 PM #2
      toasted synchro

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      05-01-2012 12:08 PM #3
      Syncro rings are worn out. You could just slow the shift down a little bit, too. The more you grind it, the more worn out it will get and the worse it will become.
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      05-01-2012 12:21 PM #4
      I feel your pain OP. My 1-2 has been really bad lately when driving enthusiastically, so I suppose its time for a tranny overhall.
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      05-01-2012 01:11 PM #5
      My original trans was getting pretty bad for 1 and 2. Picked up a reconditioned one and 3rd grinds a lot, but at least 1-2 works great. Never really need to slam it into 3rd though, so it works out.

      Also, changing the gear oil may help a little..or a lot. If it is really old and yucky, it will make a bigger improvement. That's what I did about 10,000 miles before getting another trans and it made a huge difference.
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      05-02-2012 11:40 PM #6
      thanks
      any recmmended tranny fluid?

    7. 05-02-2012 11:49 PM #7
      im not sure whats the best fluid, but i would use whatever vw recomends, go to germanautoparts.com and see what fluid they have listed for the car. site is very reliable (for me at least), never had any problems. i recently got a bunch of power steering fluid and brake fluid to do a flush, and it was a lot cheaper than going through the stealership.

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      05-02-2012 11:54 PM #8
      Quote Originally Posted by 401wagonguy View Post
      thanks
      any recmmended tranny fluid?
      synchromesh
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      05-03-2012 12:26 AM #9
      Or get that redline trans fluid. **** works wonders


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      05-03-2012 12:29 AM #10
      The unofficial list of good oils are:

      Redline MT-90
      Pennzoil Syncromesh
      GM synthetic fluid (I forget the name of it, but I've heard most chain stores have it)
      Royal Purple

      Basically, you just need one that is GL-4 certified/approved. Some bottles say it right on there, but others may need some skimming of the documentation.
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      05-03-2012 08:47 AM #11
      Redline is the best i have used so far ....used the syncromesh too and it was ok but felt lilke the redline performed better in the long run ...but for price and if ur just gonna replace the trans syncromesh aint too shabby either

    12. 08-18-2012 02:40 PM #12
      2000 vr6, my 2nd gear has been grinding every up shift and inconsistent downshifts. I recently changed gear oil (Lucas 80-90). 2nd still grinds but all the other gears are MUCH smoother. They were all getting a little rough. So it looks like I will just be continuing to avoid 2nd gear to save the syncro.

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      08-18-2012 03:10 PM #13
      Well something else you can do to help the syncros out is to get a lot closer with rev-matching, like you would do when you float the gears. If you're hitting it as an upshift, you'll eventually figure out the timing of when you drop your foot off the gas and the revs fall down, you end up with a short window to get 2nd to be pretty close to rev-matched.

      Can also just slow down your shifting process, too. Regardless, it does sound like the syncro for 2nd is pretty worn-out.
      We need a series like this state-side. I'm in if there is one, or will be one. VW Cup 2014/5, anyone?

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      08-18-2012 04:52 PM #14
      Also try re-aligning your shifter and check for bushing play.


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      08-18-2012 04:59 PM #15
      I have a 95 vr6 and my synchro has been gone for a while...the gear oil works great ( I used redline) slow down the shifting or double clutch it....works for me

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      08-18-2012 05:12 PM #16
      Grinding could also be caused by a stretched shift cable.


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    17. 08-18-2012 06:13 PM #17
      For real. Not allot of people check out the bushings on the cables where it enters the shift box. Not included in rebuild kit and allot overlook it. Same for the 3 on top of trans holding the front cable bracket.

      If the symptom lessens as the trans warms, it's likely a bushing/alignment issue. If it sucks from cold to warm, probably internals as mentioned.
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