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    Thread: Stephen King says: "Tax Me, for F@%k's Sake!"

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      05-01-2012 07:37 PM #26
      Quote Originally Posted by vwtool View Post
      The Koch Brothers will be thrilled to see so many working stiffs puking up their bought-and-paid-for "cut government spending" talking point.

      Keep up the good work!
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      05-01-2012 07:38 PM #27
      Quote Originally Posted by vwtool View Post
      The Koch Brothers will be thrilled to see so many working stiffs puking up their bought-and-paid-for "cut government spending" talking point.

      Keep up the good work!
      Koch brothers, that's what you are going with?

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      05-01-2012 07:39 PM #28
      Quote Originally Posted by pentaxshooter View Post
      I applied for a Koch internship
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      05-01-2012 07:41 PM #29
      Quote Originally Posted by speaker View Post
      Koch brothers, that's what you are going with?

      I see the "Al Gore" card has already been played by your team, so it's fair play!

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      05-01-2012 07:49 PM #30
      Quote Originally Posted by vwtool View Post
      I see the "Al Gore" card has already been played by your team, so it's fair play!
      I have no team and that's tired.

      Gore however is the gift that keeps on giving.

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      05-01-2012 07:53 PM #31
      Quote Originally Posted by speaker View Post
      I have no team and that's tired.
      Okay, I'll take you at your word.

      Gore however is the gift that keeps on giving.
      Until now.

      Know how I know you have a team?

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      05-01-2012 08:03 PM #32
      Quote Originally Posted by vwtool View Post
      Okay, I'll take you at your word.



      Until now.

      Know how I know you have a team?
      Uh. It seems like you just want to fight.
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      05-01-2012 08:17 PM #33
      Quote Originally Posted by TheDarkEnergist View Post
      Uh. It seems like you just want to fight.
      With people who think "Al Gore" is the ever-ready punchline to their tired jokes?

      You bet.

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      05-01-2012 09:10 PM #34
      Quote Originally Posted by pknopp View Post

      I will agree to higher taxes when they are combined with lower spending.
      I wholeheartedly agree with this. Obviously this country needs to do something about the massive defecit and I'm willing to do my part but only if there is a BIG shift in how our government operates

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      05-01-2012 09:30 PM #36
      Quote Originally Posted by vwtool View Post
      With people who think "Al Gore" is the ever-ready punchline to their tired jokes?

      You bet.
      I'd bet you'd like to be the one that releases Al Gore's second chakra.....


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      05-01-2012 09:35 PM #37
      http://www.fms.treas.gov/faq/moretopics_gifts.html

      "Citizens who wish to make a general donation to the U.S. government may send contributions to a specific account called "Gifts to the United States." This account was established in 1843 to accept gifts, such as bequests, from individuals wishing to express their patriotism to the United States. Money deposited into this account is for general use by the federal government and can be available for budget needs. These contributions are considered an unconditional gift to the government. Financial gifts can be made by check or money order payable to the United States Treasury and mailed to the address below.

      Gifts to the United States
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      05-01-2012 09:40 PM #38
      Quote Originally Posted by rsj0714 View Post
      I would start with people who get payed under the table, illegal occupations, and tax dodgers.
      So you would rather go after the hard working people trying to make a living and get by, rather than the really rich people who in essence would be easier to tax?

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      05-01-2012 09:40 PM #39
      Quote Originally Posted by 2.0T_Convert View Post
      Stephen King has more cred than Romney in my book.
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      05-01-2012 09:51 PM #40
      Quote Originally Posted by 1Point8TDan View Post
      So you would rather go after the hard working people trying to make a living and get by, rather than the really rich people who in essence would be easier to tax?
      You're concluding that rich people aren't hard working. Besides that I think everyone should pay taxes no matter how "hard workin" they are. I pay taxes on a minimum wage job, so should everyone else that gets paid at least what I do, which they have a right to make.

      I am not saying go after them but it is important for everyone to contribute as a citizen and as someone who uses infrastructure built and maintained on the tax payers dollar.

      It's about paying in, even if it's a small percentage of your check.
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      05-01-2012 09:59 PM #41
      That it’s not fair to ask the middle class to assume a disproportionate amount of the tax burden
      People who say this are either stupid, or liars, because it simply. Isn't. True.

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      05-01-2012 10:01 PM #42
      Quote Originally Posted by Egilbe View Post
      oh jeez, this again? Poor people pay taxes, it's just not federal income tax. Someone with very little income is paying a larger amount in taxes, proportionately, when buying a gallon of milk or gas, than the multimilionair buying the same gallon of milk, or gas. Do you see the difference?
      No. Wrong. Some starving Marvin might pay more IN PERCENTAGE than Archie Rich, but so fukin what? Do you pay your mortgage in percents? Can you buy a Porsche in percents? Ever paid for beer with percents?

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      05-01-2012 10:06 PM #43
      Quote Originally Posted by rsj0714 View Post
      What do you expect? America was founded on the principle of not paying high taxes.

      If King and Buffet want their money taken so badly then the government should act on them independently.
      This





      Quote Originally Posted by sjt1985 View Post
      Put yourself in their shoes. I'm sure there are plenty of people in my own income range that would happily give 50-60% of their income, but why should they expect it to be forced on me also? I have no problem with people giving every red cent they earn, but don't tell me I have to do it too. It's easy for us to look at the super rich and say that we would be so much more charitable if we had that kind of money, but it's mostly just hot air.
      And this




      Quote Originally Posted by Uberhare View Post
      If I recall the IRS statistic it said something like 46% of Americans do not pay Federal income tax. Zip, zero, nada. Think about that.....almost 50% do not pay income tax. The other half support the people who don't pay income tax. I have a serious problem with this. I fully support some form or simplified proportional tax system where EVERYONE contributes regardless of income level. PAying no income tax is just wrong and totally unfair.

      And taxing the "rich" more won't solve a damn thing and will drive most rich folks away from the US defeating the purpose of the tax increase. You need to curtail the out of control spending habits of the government first BEFORE addressing taxes.
      What he said


      Quote Originally Posted by GRNWNV View Post
      So just to play devils advocate here,
      If we take the post above, what would these 1% do when the American economy colapses (eg. Greece)?
      Go occupy something

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      05-01-2012 10:10 PM #44
      The other thing that kills me is that people act like if Bill Gates would just pay an extra $100 in taxes, there would be 10 fewer starving babies. Or something.

      In reality, Gates paying $100 more means the gov't would blow about $95 more on something completely stupid. Paying more taxes is like giving in to your heroin addict son's request for more money; he's already blowing through your money on stupid isht, why would you give him MORE? Does anyone really, truly believe the federal government is a good steward of their money, or do they just want rich people to pay more out of spite and envy?

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      05-01-2012 10:14 PM #45
      There's a pretty big fallacy in the... "we need to shrink government" argument. Operating budgets of entire departments can be paid for in a few days of military deployment. I recently read an article supporting the expansion of free education. You could send every college bound high school student to college for ~50 billion. That's basically our military presence in the Middle East for about a week.

      I'm not saying we need a reduction in forces, just that keeping them deployed is incredibly expensive. In my mind it's difficult to argue for a reduction in services provided by the government when most of what's being argued is a proverbial drop in the bucket. Until we unfrack ourselves regarding multiple front endless conflicts and spiraling health care costs, everything else is kind of moot.

      As for a progressive tax system, I'm with Egilbe. The relative cost of living is so much higher as you approach the poverty line and practically insignificant as you approach Mitt Romney. As a moderately well paid, actually middle class individual who's finally made it past living month to month, I can understand why people who make less than me should pay a lower effective tax rate. I find it a little harder to understand why people who make 20x what I make sometimes also pay a lower effective rate.

    21. 05-01-2012 10:14 PM #46
      Quote Originally Posted by speaker View Post
      Koch brothers, that's what you are going with?
      It's become the new Godwin's law.

    22. 05-01-2012 10:17 PM #47
      Quote Originally Posted by vwtool View Post
      I see the "Al Gore" card has already been played by your team, so it's fair play!
      How so? People have been complaining about government waste long before the Koch brothers had any money or were even heard about. But because you are unable to refute those arguement you are left with "Koch, Koch, Koch". It's extremely weak.

      Now, was Al Gore exrtemely stingy with his money (ie: gave almost none to charity) but still called for higher taxes or not?

      Then, what is wrong with directing your wealth to the programs you want to help out others as opposed to giving it to the government to split many different ways with so much of it going to waste?

    23. 05-01-2012 10:19 PM #48
      Quote Originally Posted by vwtool View Post
      With people who think "Al Gore" is the ever-ready punchline to their tired jokes?

      You bet.
      No, I brought up Gore and you didn't say a word to me. Coward.

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      05-01-2012 10:20 PM #49
      Quote Originally Posted by Chris Stack View Post
      The other thing that kills me is that people act like if Bill Gates would just pay an extra $100 in taxes, there would be 10 fewer starving babies. Or something.

      In reality, Gates paying $100 more means the gov't would blow about $95 more on something completely stupid. Paying more taxes is like giving in to your heroin addict son's request for more money; he's already blowing through your money on stupid isht, why would you give him MORE? Does anyone really, truly believe the federal government is a good steward of their money, or do they just want rich people to pay more out of spite and envy?
      Chris you are a true pragmatist.

    25. 05-01-2012 10:21 PM #50
      Quote Originally Posted by Chris Stack View Post
      The other thing that kills me is that people act like if Bill Gates would just pay an extra $100 in taxes, there would be 10 fewer starving babies. Or something.

      In reality, Gates paying $100 more means the gov't would blow about $95 more on something completely stupid. Paying more taxes is like giving in to your heroin addict son's request for more money; he's already blowing through your money on stupid isht, why would you give him MORE? Does anyone really, truly believe the federal government is a good steward of their money, or do they just want rich people to pay more out of spite and envy?
      Gates gives a ton of money to charity. It does far, far more good that way than if he was giving it to the government, IMO.

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