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      05-01-2012 08:04 PM #1
      I tend to keep my cars for a long time, about 10 years. What current vehicles being sold will hold up the best in 10 years? Obviously nearly everything can last if it is treated with care, but let's assume it gets your average family abuse: unreported crub hitting by the wife, scratches and bumps from the parking lot, long washing intervals, long oil change intervals, teenage drivers, dogs and cats, eating, drinking, trips to the dump, trips to home depot, etc.
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      05-01-2012 08:05 PM #2
      I dont know of any cars that will not last 10 years.

      Hell, my baby turns 10 this year:
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      05-01-2012 08:08 PM #3
      Quote Originally Posted by RacerrRex View Post
      I dont know of any cars that will not last 10 years.
      That wasn't the question. The question is which will hold up best.
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      05-01-2012 08:08 PM #4
      10 years x national yearly average of 15,000 miles = 150,000 miles. Almost any car will last that long, but a 10/150 warranty will guarantee the powertrain. I think Jeep does that. hell Chrysler has an 80 year warranty.

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      05-01-2012 08:09 PM #5
      My best guess would be Hondas and Toyotas.

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      05-01-2012 08:13 PM #6
      My answer is whatever car has the least electronics. They do have a shelf life. I'm not so sure even the best engineer could design something to extend that life.

      And while I'm not saying I'm against all electronics and want to toss around in a horse and buggy, it's always in the back of my mind that wiring/electronics repair = $$$
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      05-01-2012 11:02 PM #8
      Quote Originally Posted by Activ8 View Post


      More electronics than any car on the road. Even though it's a Lexus, things will still break out of warranty. And it isn't cheap.

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      Toyota Tacoma

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      05-01-2012 11:08 PM #11
      current generation impalas? mkvi jettas with the 8v? IIRC current cars are more reliable than older cars...I could be wrong though.

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      05-01-2012 11:12 PM #12
      budget? If you don't want Japanese, or a Silverado, I would say a left over BMW E90. Has to be a 328, no 335 here. Manuals never break. The auto, going against conventional wisdom of other BMW's, is a good trans. I think I may have done ONE in the 7 years that body was out. The ZF leaks, the GM steel pan doesn't. The only things that go wrong that seem to be recurring trends are the electric water pump, which after the redesign has been lasting longer then 60K miles. Belt tensioner fails for the serp belt. Oil filter housing starts leaking around 50K, valve cover a little after, and the Pan gaskets seem to go around 100K....... Control arm bushings, depending on the roads can be 60-90K miles..... thats about it. We do get the odd car that needs an evaporator, but thats rare. With routine maintenance, they are absolute tanks. Fun to drive, safe. Mine will get about 27 on the highway with cruise, 19-20 mix commute. I have a customer with an '08 coupe closing in on 200K and several others around the 150k mark and only a few years old.
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      05-01-2012 11:17 PM #13
      Quote Originally Posted by tango_28 View Post
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      Actually this is a pretty legit answer, I know first hand and have seen a handful with 200+ idle miles plus ten years of abuse for everything else and they still seem to be aging pretty well
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      05-01-2012 11:28 PM #14
      Quote Originally Posted by tango_28 View Post
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      These cars will take your average family abuse x 10.
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      05-01-2012 11:28 PM #15
      My old EP3 Civic Si (gave it to my mom a few years ago) will be ten years old later this year. It has just under 100k miles on it and has only had bulbs, wipers, tires, two batteries, fluids, filters, an A/C compressor (they all implode) and a power lock actuator (not repaired). The suspension, rotors, pads, clutch and everything else is original and it still feels and sounds tight and new.
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      05-02-2012 12:19 AM #16
      As boring as it may sound - most mainstream Honda/Toyota products, preferably with a manual transmission.

      Toyota's Hybrid Synergy Drive cars have been holding up very well (the clever transmission and brake system ensures low maintenance), and the batteries have an 8-10 year, 100K-150K warranty depending on the state you live in.

      Among domestic cars, probably the pony cars, lower-end trucks, and Jeep Wranglers. All of these have a huge aftermarket that keeps parts prices low, and of course, these cars/trucks have to be durable.

      Among European cars - I'd say the VW 2.5L 5-cylinder is the safest bet.

      But I would say any of today's cars will hold up much better over a decade than even the average 2002 car, let alone 1992 car.*

      (* exceptions = those with funky automatic transmissions, i.e. PowerShift)
      Last edited by Lifelong Obsession; 05-02-2012 at 12:24 AM.

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      05-02-2012 12:24 AM #17
      Quote Originally Posted by Lifelong Obsession View Post

      But I would say today's cars will hold up much better over a decade than even the average 2002 car, let alone 1992 car.
      I see more 92/93 Camrys/Corollas/Altimas than I'd like to.
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      05-02-2012 08:39 AM #18
      Quote Originally Posted by VDub2625 View Post
      hell Chrysler has an 80 year warranty.
      Really?
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      05-02-2012 08:42 AM #19
      Quote Originally Posted by VDub2625 View Post
      hell Chrysler has an 80 year warranty.
      Quote Originally Posted by barry2952 View Post
      Really?
      Yeah, I've never heard of this either. Source?
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      05-02-2012 08:44 AM #20
      Quote Originally Posted by barry2952 View Post
      Really?
      Actually, I thought it was a lifetime warranty. There's only one catch though, it only covers the original owner.

    21. 05-02-2012 08:53 AM #21
      Quote Originally Posted by mikes96GTI View Post
      I would say a left over BMW E90. Has to be a 328, no 335 here. Manuals never break. The auto, going against conventional wisdom of other BMW's, is a good trans. I think I may have done ONE in the 7 years that body was out. The ZF leaks, the GM steel pan doesn't. The only things that go wrong that seem to be recurring trends are the electric water pump, which after the redesign has been lasting longer then 60K miles. Belt tensioner fails for the serp belt. Oil filter housing starts leaking around 50K, valve cover a little after, and the Pan gaskets seem to go around 100K....... Control arm bushings, depending on the roads can be 60-90K miles..... thats about it.
      How are the 128s holding up?

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      05-02-2012 09:18 AM #22
      Quote Originally Posted by tango_28 View Post
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      This. Ford Panther platform cars (Crown Vic, Grand Marquis, Town Car) are probably the most reliable vehicles built. Ever.

      Taxis, Limos, cop cars, you name it. They get used and abused left and right, and they'll go 10-15 years and 300k+ miles without a hiccup. In addition to regular maintenance, you might have to replace a tie rod or ball joint every now and then. That's it. Heck, even with lax maintenance they go forever.

      I've personally seen several taxi examples with 400-500k miles, still going strong. The only problem...they don't make them anymore. And I doubt the new Nissan...thing...will hold up nearly as well in NYC Taxi use.
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    23. 05-02-2012 09:24 AM #23
      Quote Originally Posted by Anony00GT View Post
      And I doubt the new Nissan...thing...will hold up nearly as well in NYC Taxi use.
      Had the recent displeasure of taking a ride in one of NYC's Altima Hybrid taxis. 80k miles and it felt like it was on its last legs.

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      05-02-2012 09:28 AM #24
      Quote Originally Posted by Jrod511 View Post
      Toyota Tacoma

      Lock 'er up.
      x2 Im looking at an 03 with 120K, I will probably pay 8-10gs if I want it.
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      05-02-2012 09:30 AM #25
      Quote Originally Posted by cheap sunglasses View Post
      Had the recent displeasure of taking a ride in one of NYC's Altima Hybrid taxis. 80k miles and it felt like it was on its last legs.
      Thats funny, boss just bought a new company vehicle. Its a chevy outlander, 07 with 83k drives like its fresh out the showroom. I was very impressed.
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