Rear end problem in my 93 fox

[foxy0505]

i have a 93 fox 2 door. and my back wheels are loose the lug nuts are tight but the wheels still jiggle back and forth im wondering if anyone else had a problem with this. could it be the bearings or a simple bolt problem?????? helpppppp

[Rogue Leader]

i have a 93 fox 2 door. and my back wheels are loose the lug nuts are tight but the wheels still jiggle back and forth im wondering if anyone else had a problem with this. could it be the bearings or a simple bolt problem?????? helpppppp

If your lugnuts are actually tight then its definitely your wheel bearings. Replace them. Get some Timkens

[rsay4654]

i have a 93 fox 2 door. And my back wheels are loose the lug nuts are tight but the wheels still jiggle back and forth im wondering if anyone else had a problem with this. Could it be the bearings or a simple bolt problem?????? Helpppppp

yep wheel bearings.

[redone17]

Timken makes good stuff?

Beck/Arnley wheel bearings are made in China now...

[QuantumSyncro]

Yeah...what the others said, wheel bearings likely needed to be repacked a while back.

Get some good bearings / races for this, the OE install bearings use plastic cages.....cheesy.

[Rogue Leader]

Timken makes good stuff?

Beck/Arnley wheel bearings are made in China now...

Timken is the best

Beck/Arnley should be referred to as Crap/Crapley in many cases.

[redone17]

thanks for the tip. placing an order. was wondering what to use since i was having a hard time finding german made wheel bearings.

[QuantumSyncro]

Timken is the best

Beck/Arnley should be referred to as Crap/Crapley in many cases.

Yeah, I'd have to agree with you. It used to be that when you bought a BA product it was a repackaged major German maker....now that's not the case...unless you get some good NOS BA stuff.

[redone17]

yeah, just looked over some of the B/A stuff I got for my brake upgrade project

wheel cylinders: made in germany - F A G
rear bearing kit: made in spain - SKF
front bearings: made in china - Meyle
rear drum springs: made in usa - no name
emergency brake cable: made in italy - no name

placed an order for Timken bearings. rather do it right, one time.


cp

[QuantumSyncro]

yeah, just looked over some of the B/A stuff I got for my brake upgrade project

wheel cylinders: made in germany - F A G
rear bearing kit: made in spain - SKF
front bearings: made in china - Meyle
rear drum springs: made in usa - no name
emergency brake cable: made in italy - no name

placed an order for Timken bearings. rather do it right, one time.


cp

Meyle went to china mfg several years ago....lots of chatter in the MB forums about Chinese Meyle parts. They come in fancy boxes with hologram decals but in the end it was made in China.

[Rogue Leader]

SOME BA stuff is not crappy, as mentioned it sometimes is good repackaged stuff. Also realize that I use these parts in a race car that gets hammered on so it may work perfectly fine in the real world, but at 6000 rpms for 14 hours, not so much. But in many cases they are the only game in town if I need the part "right now" as I often do. Or the cost difference for another brand is completely prohibitive for a part that likely won't end our race if it still doesn't work.

[lilgreydentwagen]

+1 on the timken bearings. Make sure you pack them really good with the right grease (high temp) otherwise you'll be doing it again within a year. Dont forget the seals too.

[redone17]

Timken Part #s:
Front: SET39
Rear Inner: SET1
Rear Outer: SET8
Rear Seal: 1174S (x2)

[foxy0505]

thanks guys but actually it was just the bolts that tighten the bearings down very easy and simple fix. huh im glad i do all my own work on my fox

[Rogue Leader]

thanks guys but actually it was just the bolts that tighten the bearings down very easy and simple fix. huh im glad i do all my own work on my fox

Did you check the bearings just in case? How long was it like that?

With those loose you could have caused some damage. The nut should be just tight enough that the drum still spins freely, and then get a cotter pin to hold it in and the dust cap. The nut should never back off if its installed properly. I would take em apart and repack them at a minimum, doesn't cost much money and better than having one fail on ya while driving....

[sippin.fnordies]

I would take em apart and repack them at a minimum, doesn't cost much money and better than having one fail on ya while driving...

Years ago a was passenger in a friends Fox when one of the wheel bearings let go at 70mph on the highway, heard/felt a little thump and then got passed by our own rear wheel. Luckily no loss of control, but removing the overheated and seized wheel bearing was to this day one of the biggest pain in the ass projects ever. Just remember, that one big nut is holding your brake drum to the axle and your wheel is attached only to the brake drum. It only takes about 10 minutes per side to re-pack them, and maybe 30 to replace them. Took us 7 hours in a parking lot to make his Fox driveable that day.

[QuantumSyncro]

SOME BA stuff is not crappy, as mentioned it sometimes is good repackaged stuff. Also realize that I use these parts in a race car that gets hammered on so it may work perfectly fine in the real world, but at 6000 rpms for 14 hours, not so much. But in many cases they are the only game in town if I need the part "right now" as I often do. Or the cost difference for another brand is completely prohibitive for a part that likely won't end our race if it still doesn't work.

I'm not seriously dissing BA, but they're business model has always been to never manufacture anything, they just buy from other companies and repackage in their own box.

Most parts houses have access to all these same parts via the individual mfgr names anyway if they really want to run a quality business. The only thing that BA does is make access to some parts a little easier, but otherwise they add no economic value to the parts.

BA is a business is that just buys and sells, and their biz model is just buying in bulk and scraping off the extra that they need to keep the lights on in their offices.

When all the parts we got came out of Germany, that's what BA was selling, and we were happy, but now that a lot of parts come out of China that's where BA parts are coming from. It's the nature of what they do.

The biggest question now is how long can they get buy with this biz model....

[redone17]

yeah, I am not into supporting that. thanks for clearing that up.

[foxy0505]

i allready packed them they are good as new. but the bolt was help on by a bottle cap looking thing that the pin holds the bolt in place that cap slipped over the pin and the nut moved thats what happend. so i bent it back to shape and now it drives smooth as ever =]

[Adam Blackwood]

I just replaced my bearings and packed them with grease but there is a hum sound. I tightened the bolt to where the wheels spins freely but could I have overtightened it? Could I have not tightened it enough? I'm not sure what to do.

[redone17]

I got my Timken parts...

Seals - Made in Indonesia
Front Bearing - Made in USA
Rear Inner - Made in Brazil
Rear Outer - Made in France

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I also got and returned Seals that were ordered as Timken - but delivered as National Federal Mogul - Made in Mexico. Seems the two companies merged at one point - but, now that I see these parts are made all over the globe - that seems pointless. I guess everyone is doing it.