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    Thread: Do I have to replace rotors with new brake pads?

    1. 05-02-2012 12:45 PM #1
      My wife's Wolfsburg Edition (06) needs new pads on the rear wheels. I know it's recommended to get new rotors when replacing pads, but they feel smooth to the touch. We're tight for money, so if I go to a mechanic and give him high quality pads to slap on, can I get by, or will I need new rotors in 10,000 miles? Is refinishing a better option (if it's not too expensive)? Also, do good brake pads really make a difference, and can anyone recommend any brands that aren't crazy expensive?

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      05-02-2012 12:59 PM #2
      It is more than just "smooth to the touch". They need to measure the total thickness & runout.

      More than likely, you'll need new rotors.

      You can get quality rotors for relatively not much money, ie ATE, Balo, Zimmerman, etc.

      Is resurfacing rotors an option? No, because you'll be close, if not exceed the wear limits after resurfacing the rotors

      http://www.ecstuning.com/Volkswagen-...raking/Rotors/

      P.S. I like my Akebono ceramic pads a lot better than Hawk HPS
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    3. 05-02-2012 01:13 PM #3
      Will check out links and compare prices.

    4. 05-02-2012 01:35 PM #4
      Quote Originally Posted by bigegli View Post
      Will check out links and compare prices.
      http://shop.autoanything.com/brakes/61A5870A0A0.aspx

      Just had these Power Stop rear brakes and rotors installed. They are a good upgrade from your stock rotors for very little more. The drilled and slotted rotors will help keep temperatures lower and move water and other contaminates away from the pads. The result is better braking, less wear on your pads / rotors (will last longer), and you don't spend much more than you would on stock brakes. Plus, the package comes with pads and rotors that fit right in with all the current OEM brake equipment already installed. I give them a big thumbs up for the price and so do tons of other people.

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      05-02-2012 01:40 PM #5
      slotted rotors wear the pads out more.
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    6. 05-02-2012 01:41 PM #6
      Thanks for answering my next question in advance - whether or not quality rotors (or type) really make a difference. I was wondering if cheaper alloys wear down faster, etc.

    7. 05-02-2012 01:42 PM #7
      So does anyone know if going with $25 dollar rotors on Rock Auto instead of mid-priced is a bad idea then?

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      05-02-2012 03:43 PM #8
      While I understand the need to be frugel, you're talking about the most important safety equipment on your car. IMO this is where you don't cheap out.

      I just bought a set of Zimmerman replacement rotors (fronts) and a set of PBR Deluxe pads for under $200.

      Like the old Fram advert said... 'you can pay me now, or pay me later'.

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      05-02-2012 04:05 PM #9
      Yeah stop skip out of brakes

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      05-02-2012 04:22 PM #10
      .. you "should" replace them. I would have just have them resurfaced. The front pads wear less than the rears. Rotors are safe but its only part of it. Make sure you

      Replace brake fluid every two years.. do it!
      Tire pressure.. yeah its important
      make sure shocks and springs are not worn.. great time for coil overs
      Get some sporty tires.. not those sorry P6 VW put in my "sport" package.. thanks!
      Oh dont spray cold water on hot rotors.
      Oh and pay attention to the road.. not even a 3k bbk can help you their.

      Oh I actually ran new rear pads with a rotor that had a grove.. like a big line due to my rear inner brake pad wearing all the way down.. I ran the car like that for a while.. never hit anything.

      I followed the rear DIY made and this was the first time I had ever done a brake job. pretty easy but you have that learning curve.. and you need the right tools. I have replaced all my rotors with slotted rotors.. I am running hawk HPS and a stiffining kit for the front. Also replaced the brake fluid. Vag com has paid for itself with 5 passat rear brake pad jobs.

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      05-02-2012 08:03 PM #11
      Hey x9t, how do you like that brake stiffening kit? Bill was just saying how much he liked his set.
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      05-02-2012 09:10 PM #12
      Hi,
      I changed my rear pads at about 30,000 miles and the rotors were still fine and I did not change them. I usually do not save money on safety related car parts, e.g. I change my brake fluid every 2 years and keep everything else up in good shape. Nevertheless, the rotors seemed so good to me that it would have been a waste of money.

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      05-03-2012 10:13 PM #13
      Does anyone have experience using the Power Stop Brake Kit with the ceramic pads here? I'm going to be replacing brakes soon and I'm looking for a set for my spirited driving. I also want to do the installation myself so what specialized tools will I need? Sorry if this is considered thread jacking.

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      05-03-2012 11:11 PM #14
      All brake rotors are required by law to display a minimum thickness stamped somewhere on the outer edge of the rotor. If they are above minimal thickness, then they do not need to be replaced (unless they pulsate due to being warped).

      If they are too thin, then you cannot have them turned down, you must replace them.

      I've not replced VW rotors with cheaper aftermarket ones, but I've done it on numerous other cars with good results. Can't say about the Passat.

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      05-04-2012 11:34 AM #15
      Quote Originally Posted by Megatronian View Post
      Does anyone have experience using the Power Stop Brake Kit with the ceramic pads here? I'm going to be replacing brakes soon and I'm looking for a set for my spirited driving. I also want to do the installation myself so what specialized tools will I need? Sorry if this is considered thread jacking.
      There is a DIY on this topic somewhere if you do a search. The special tool part is on the back calipers because of the parking brake mechanism. You either have to follow the special, and somewhat scary procedure, or find someone with a vcds tool to help you.
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      05-04-2012 05:28 PM #16
      Quote Originally Posted by Tutti57 View Post
      Hey x9t, how do you like that brake stiffening kit? Bill was just saying how much he liked his set.
      Yes made a nice difference. I plan to run a set on the B4. Just make sure to re lube the pins every year or so.

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      05-04-2012 08:08 PM #17
      Cool, thanks.
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