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    Thread: Eurotuner ceasing publication June 2012

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      05-04-2012 01:07 PM #26
      i remember when they made the name change at h2o in 01

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      05-04-2012 01:20 PM #27
      i don't think print will ever fully die off, it will just go through a resizing of the industry. Sure, web publications have undercut print, but people will always have a desire to hold a physical book of images and articles. Print will most likely go towards small batch, hi-end products.

      I don't know about y'all, but I try to reduce the already excessive amount of time I spend staring at a glowing LED screen.

      It's nice to have something to read that doesn't require power, also.

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      05-04-2012 06:25 PM #28
      good riddance to bad rubbish.everything about the magazine sucked-paper,misprints,horrid editing and most of the cars were junk!
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      05-04-2012 06:36 PM #29
      Bummer, I'm gonna miss the 50 pages of adds 5 pages of features and articles and 100 subscription inserts





      Not really PVW> ET

    5. 05-08-2012 02:57 PM #30
      Eurotuner evolved into something readable, but not too far back it was aweful.

      I think that magazines are in trouble. Back in December EuroTuner went from 12 issus per year down to 9. 4 issues later and they're done.

      Plus, if these guys are moving to European Car, what does that mean to EC? Are they going to punt Bidrawn and Brown? EC has turned into a car mag about high end tuner cars. Very few cars or projects that are suited to the average working folk. I've had a European Car subscription since shortly after the change from VW-Porsche. I won't renew it again. The last issue is under 100 pages.

      I really miss SportCompactCar. That Modified magazine that Primedia/SourceInterlink sent to fulfill my subscription was certainly no replacement. SCC used to be 200+ pages of quality, but Primedia/SI axed it down to 100 pages of not much.

      If you're looking for good magazines, PVW, Classic and Sports Car, Octane (for the high end stuff), Project Car (for the hands on stuff, too bad they only publish 4 per year and don't do subscriptions), and of course, Top Gear.



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      edit: Primedia/SourceInterlink/whoever owns the mags now.
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      05-08-2012 07:47 PM #31
      Not suprised. In what, twelve years that mag changed titles at least three times, went through about four editors-in-chief, and never really established an edititorial direction - was it a VW mag, or BMW, or all Euro-inclusive? European Car for young guys? Or Super Street but with VWs? In the end nobody cared, apparently.

      Few years ago I posted some less than complimentary opinions about EuraTuna on this forum. By way of reply one of the editors (now former editor Jason Jackmann) told me I was an idiot and I didn't know anything about how car magazines work.

      Well, maybe I do or don't, but what I do know is if a magazine is sh*t, people won't buy it. Less newstand and subscription sales leads to a drop in advertising revenues, and even huge gazillion-dollar megacomglomerates like PriMedia or Source - Interlink won't tolerate money-losing titles forever.

      TL;DR: Came in to gloat, leaving satisfied.

      I heard through a mutual friend former ed Jackmann is in the Army these days.
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      05-08-2012 08:28 PM #32
      If they had perhaps concentrated on being less like a Jap tuner mag with euro cars in it, and more on being a euro mag...they MIGHT have stood a chance. PVW, Retro Car, Retro Ford, PBMW...they do well because they concentrate on their target audience, and NOT on trying to be everyone's magazine.

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    8. 05-08-2012 08:29 PM #33
      Quote Originally Posted by vr6swap View Post
      Not suprised. In what, twelve years that mag changed titles at least three times, went through about four editors-in-chief, and never really established an edititorial direction - was it a VW mag, or BMW, or all Euro-inclusive? European Car for young guys? Or Super Street but with VWs? In the end nobody cared, apparently.

      Few years ago I posted some less than complimentary opinions about EuraTuna on this forum. By way of reply one of the editors (now former editor Jason Jackmann) told me I was an idiot and I didn't know anything about how car magazines work.

      Well, maybe I do or don't, but what I do know is if a magazine is sh*t, people won't buy it. Less newstand and subscription sales leads to a drop in advertising revenues, and even huge gazillion-dollar megacomglomerates like PriMedia or Source - Interlink won't tolerate money-losing titles forever.

      TL;DR: Came in to gloat, leaving satisfied.

      I heard through a mutual friend former ed Jackmann is in the Army these days.


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      05-08-2012 08:34 PM #34
      I admit there was alot of boring stuff in et but it was cheap and they had some cool features now and then. I despised European car mag a few years ago, buthopefully it gets better with eurotuner influence.

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      05-08-2012 09:41 PM #35
      les bidrawn may not be at EC anymore.

    11. 05-09-2012 03:22 AM #36
      For anyone interested in some of the talented magazine writers from when SCC was a great mag and before it was cancelled:

      Dave Coleman (known for great technical articles and "The Dave Point") contributes over at http://www.motoiq.com.

      He was also involved a few years back in Top Gear America's Project Sipster TDI Rabbit,
      and has posted the articles on motoiq. Here.


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      05-09-2012 04:46 AM #37
      Quote Originally Posted by MrDave View Post
      For anyone interested in some of the talented magazine writers from when SCC was a great mag and before it was cancelled:

      Dave Coleman (known for great technical articles and "The Dave Point") contributes over at http://www.motoiq.com.

      He was also involved a few years back in Top Gear America's Project Sipster TDI Rabbit,
      and has posted the articles on motoiq. Here.


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      05-09-2012 09:52 AM #38
      i agree with what most everyone has said in earlier post ... but it is sad from the point of there are alot of second tier and some first tier rides that will never get a feature in a mag now . lets face it pvw can put only x amount of cars for the whole world basically. it was hard as hell to get in pvw with eurotuner now its going to be next to impossiable now without .just my two pennies worth

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      05-09-2012 09:04 PM #40
      Quote Originally Posted by taymk2 View Post
      i agree with what most everyone has said in earlier post ... but it is sad from the point of there are alot of second tier and some first tier rides that will never get a feature in a mag now . lets face it pvw can put only x amount of cars for the whole world basically. it was hard as hell to get in pvw with eurotuner now its going to be next to impossiable now without .just my two pennies worth
      I'd like to see Golf+ get some more circulation in the States. Or PVW could add some pages

    16. 05-10-2012 01:07 AM #41
      Quote Originally Posted by TM87 View Post
      Honking your own horn i see
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      No, I'm Dave from the farm.
      He's Dave from the magazine.



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      05-10-2012 09:36 AM #42
      Quote Originally Posted by MrDave View Post
      No, I'm Dave from the farm.
      He's Dave from the magazine.



      -Dave
      I don't know if this guy's legit, but Dave Coleman posts here under the SN eyesoreracing.

      Too bad about et, but everyone's right, it wasn't that great a mag.

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      05-29-2012 10:40 AM #43
      I guess I'm a bit behind, but I just found out about this. How is it that the American market can support 20 different magazines on Camaros, Mustangs, and Corvettes, but there wasn't enough profitability for one magazine on modified European cars?

      Okay, maybe I'm part of the problem, as I always read it at in the Barnes and Noble cafe instead of buying the magazine.

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      05-29-2012 11:11 AM #44
      Quote Originally Posted by MontoyaF1 View Post
      I guess I'm a bit behind, but I just found out about this. How is it that the American market can support 20 different magazines on Camaros, Mustangs, and Corvettes, but there wasn't enough profitability for one magazine on modified European cars?

      Okay, maybe I'm part of the problem, as I always read it at in the Barnes and Noble cafe instead of buying the magazine.

      Also because Jethro and Bosefus with their souped up Cameros aint gots no internet. Euro car enthusiests are more into joining internet forums than buying a mag to check out what a Hemi will fit into.
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      05-31-2012 01:11 AM #45
      Always like Eurotuner. Not surprised at it's death though. I haven't bought one in a while, wasn't into Euro till I bought two! Oh well. But as far as reading mags, I'd rather have it in hand. Just my 2 cents.
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      05-31-2012 08:58 PM #46
      Yeah it sucks balls

      Just got the new magazine in the mail

      I wonder if I can my two or three year subscription money back???

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      05-31-2012 10:11 PM #47
      The one gripe I always had about Eurotuner...and yes I know some of these guys actually got dirty and built their own ****, but I know some of those guys just have way to much money. I can't afford half of the cars they ever showed there.
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    23. 06-05-2012 05:53 PM #48
      Quote Originally Posted by Digital K. View Post
      les bidrawn may not be at EC anymore.

      July issue of European Car doesn't list Bidrawn as Editor.

      It also happens to be my last issue.


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