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    05-03-2012 11:40 AM #1
    May 1, 2012 - The U.S. Food & Drug Administration (FDA) has issued stern warning letters to 10 manufacturers and distributors of dietary supplements containing dimethylamylamine (DMAA) for marketing products whose safety has not been proven.

    The FDAʼs action was largely anticipated by plaintiff lawyers and their clients around the country. Over the past several months, a growing number of DMAA lawsuits have been filed in courthouses nationwide on behalf of individuals who have allegedly been injured after consuming dietary supplements containing the controversial ingredient.

    "DMAA is known to narrow the blood vessels and arteries, which can elevate blood pressure and may lead to cardiovascular events ranging from shortness of breath and tightening in the chest, to heart attack," the FDA statement said.

    Earlier this year, the Department of Defense halted sales on products containing DMAA in military facilities following the deaths of two soldiers. In the summer of 2011, a 22- year-old soldier fell down and died during a jog at a military base in the Southwestern US. Months later, a 32-year-old soldier collapsed during a routine fitness test and later died after a month in the hospital. Test results revealed that both soldiers died from cardiac arrest after taking supplements containing DMAA.

    Under current law, companies selling products containing certain ingredients that were not marketed in a dietary supplement before Oct. 15, 1994, are required to notify the FDA of their safety. According to the administration, absolutely no credible scientific evidence exists showing that DMAA is a safe ingredient, and the companies who received warning letters have failed to meet this basic requirement.

    As defined by the Dietary Supplement and Health and Education Act (DSHEA) of 1994, synthetically-produced DMAA is not classified as a dietary ingredient, and is not legal for use in supplement products. DSHEA lists vitamins, minerals, amino acids, herbs, and other botanicals, "a dietary substance for use by man to supplement the diet," or a concentrate, metabolite, constituent, extract, or combination of those substances as dietary ingredients.

    The United Natural Products Alliance (UNPA) has stated that supplement makers should not label DMAA as geranium oil, or as any other part of the geranium plant, due to the fact that only one questionable study is repeatedly referenced to show that the ingredient is a naturally occurring constituent of geranium oil (Ping, Z.; Jun, Q. & Qing, L. (1996), ʻA Study on the Chemical Constituents of Geranium Oil, Journal of Guizhou Institute of Technology 25 (1): 82–85).

    The FDA warning letters were sent to these companies regarding the following DMAA- containing dietary supplements:

    Company Product(s)

    Exclusive Supplements

    Fahrenheit Nutrition

    Gaspari Nutrition

    iSatori Global Technologies, LLC Muscle Warfare, Inc.

    MuscleMeds Performance Technologies Nutrex Research

    SEI Pharmaceuticals SNI LLC

    USP Labs, LLC

    Biorhythm SSIN Juice Lean Efx

    Spirodex

    PWR

    Napalm

    Code Red

    Hemo Rage Black

    Lipo-6 Black Ultra Concentrate Lipo-6 Black

    Lipo-6 Black Hers Ultra Concentrate Lipo-6 Black Hers

    MethylHex 4,2

    Nitric Blast

    OxyElite Pro Jack3d

    Dimethylamylamine is structurally similar to amphetamine, and was originally synthesized as a nasal decongestant by pharmaceutical giant Eli Lilly in the 1940s. Although the company stopped marketing DMAA in the 1950s, medical literature from that era warned doctors that the substance was more potent in animals than ephedrine, an amphetamine-like stimulant. A growing number of professional sports and supplement industry experts have claimed that companies marketing DMAA as a dietary supplement are exploiting glaring legal loopholes and putting the safety of the public in jeopardy.

    In February 2012, a DMAA class action lawsuit was filed in Los Angeles federal court. The complaint states that DMAA is “illegal and dangerous,” and that “experts in the industry have become concerned that this potent stimulant drug will lead to serious health issues and even death.”

    The claim was filed on behalf of California resident Lynette Bates, who purchased a pre-workout dietary supplement called C4 Extreme, a product that allegedly promises ʻexplosive workouts.ʼ Among other things, the suit is accusing GNC and Cellucor Sports Nutrition of “making false and unsubstantiated representations concerning the efficacy, safety and legality of C4 Extreme.” Woodbolt International, Cellucorʼs parent company, is also named in the complaint.

    Michael E. Schmidt is recognized as one of Americaʼs most passionate, accomplished and skilled trial lawyers. His law firm, Schmidt & Clark, LLP and The Senators Firm, LLP are currently accepting DMAA lawsuits in all 50 states. To learn more about this topic, please visit his website: http://www.schmidtandclark.com/dmaa-dimethylamylamine




    Is anyone tired of suffering or not being able to buy something due to the glaring stupidity of a small group ?

    On that note I just ran out of my 1 RM and tried the jackd I am thinking Hemo Rage next
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    Fu(k a signature, you should be just introducing yourself with that. "hi my name is chilled man and i can bench all four of you skinny bitches, or find us a midget and I'll squat all five of ya." I'm impressed.
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    05-03-2012 12:08 PM #2
    While I suppose it may suck that they are taking it off the market, it will only be so long before there is a new and better chemical out there.

  3. 05-03-2012 12:23 PM #3
    True. I took 1MR and had the most intense workouts. That **** is amazing.

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    05-03-2012 01:22 PM #4
    Lots of places are unloading this stuff for dirt cheap. I would fill up a closet if I actually liked this stuff, but all it does is make me crazy agitated and mess up my sleep.

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    05-03-2012 01:58 PM #5
    Who is unloading it? I wouldn't mind getting a couple tubs on reserve.

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    05-03-2012 02:54 PM #6
    I wouldn't mind changing this stuff out for Ritalin or Adderal
    Quote Originally Posted by 02GTIFREESKIER View Post
    Fu(k a signature, you should be just introducing yourself with that. "hi my name is chilled man and i can bench all four of you skinny bitches, or find us a midget and I'll squat all five of ya." I'm impressed.
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  7. 05-03-2012 03:40 PM #7
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    05-03-2012 04:26 PM #8
    I remember back when I was training very heavy and using a good amount of supps. I would go to my local store and ask him what was new.

    "this stuff is new, but buy enough to last you a while, it'll be banned by the time you need more".

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    05-03-2012 04:45 PM #9
    god help us

    the stuff is strong and has been around for some time. I remember they used to sell in capsules at raves about 15 years ago and nobody knew what it was.

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    05-03-2012 06:03 PM #10
    Quote Originally Posted by Chilledman View Post
    On that note I just ran out of my 1 RM and tried the jackd I am thinking Hemo Rage next
    I have some Hemo Rage right now...I think I like it slightly better than Jack3d

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    05-03-2012 06:04 PM #11
    Quote Originally Posted by kryptonik View Post
    Who is unloading it? I wouldn't mind getting a couple tubs on reserve.
    this

    I haven't seen anything on www.slickdeals.net in a while

  12. 05-04-2012 04:42 PM #12
    so I only breezed over it but I thought this was funny.

    I buy most of my stuff from the GNC on base. and I remember seeing in the Army Times that jack3d and Oxy Elite Pro were being pulled from shelves in all on base GNC stores because of two soldiers whose deaths MAY have been related to these products

    while I was on base one day picking up some stuff I mentioned it to the woman and the name of the chemical (DMAA) was escaping me so I queried her "What was it in those again that was the issue" or something to that effect

    her response: "Oh, we're not allowed to say"

    but it was in the friggin' news paper.

    Just thought it was amusing

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    05-05-2012 12:13 PM #13
    those twins always crack me up.
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    05-06-2012 02:06 AM #14
    never heard about this news yet...Any updates on it? nobody at my gym has heard about it either.

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    05-06-2012 10:34 AM #15
    What updates are you looking for? They banned DMAA and it can't be manufactured or sold anymore.

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    05-06-2012 12:50 PM #16
    Quote Originally Posted by Papa Dras View Post
    What updates are you looking for? They banned DMAA and it can't be manufactured or sold anymore.
    Basically what supplement producers will be doing by modifying their "proprietary" blend. I though these supplements had more than one ingredient that acts as a vasoconstrictor?

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    05-06-2012 01:57 PM #17
    DMAA isn't an NO product, it is a stimulant. It is in pre-workouts. They'll likely just add caffeine until the next thing comes along.

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    05-06-2012 08:07 PM #18
    Quote Originally Posted by kryptonik View Post
    Who is unloading it? I wouldn't mind getting a couple tubs on reserve.
    This. Haven't seen anyone selling it dirt cheap.
    Quote Originally Posted by TheGreenspanator View Post
    Chik-fil-a I knew was a religious deal by not being open on Sunday, but it doesn't bother me because their fries are so ****ing excellent. And it's just food. They don't make you recite an "Our Father" to buy a chicken sandwich or anything

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    05-06-2012 11:50 PM #19
    Nutra Planet is still selling all their products that have DMAA in it and on sale. It's not hard to find.

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    05-07-2012 07:34 AM #20
    damnit, first 4 lokos, now this??!!?!

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    05-07-2012 10:42 AM #21
    Quote Originally Posted by Papa Dras View Post
    Nutra Planet is still selling all their products that have DMAA in it and on sale. It's not hard to find.


    Just checked, and some stuff (like the neurocore) was at a good price. But I get my Jack3d for like $1 more than what the website has it listed for. Hardly a blowout.
    Quote Originally Posted by TheGreenspanator View Post
    Chik-fil-a I knew was a religious deal by not being open on Sunday, but it doesn't bother me because their fries are so ****ing excellent. And it's just food. They don't make you recite an "Our Father" to buy a chicken sandwich or anything

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    05-07-2012 10:53 AM #22
    Then don't buy it, bro. Most places have already pulled all this, so I am trying to help you stim junkies out.

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    05-07-2012 11:50 AM #23
    Quote Originally Posted by Papa Dras View Post
    Then don't buy it, bro. Most places have already pulled all this, so I am trying to help you stim junkies out.
    Wasn't saying anything negative towards you. I gave you the "" for giving a name. I was simply commenting on them advertising it as a "blowout".
    Quote Originally Posted by TheGreenspanator View Post
    Chik-fil-a I knew was a religious deal by not being open on Sunday, but it doesn't bother me because their fries are so ****ing excellent. And it's just food. They don't make you recite an "Our Father" to buy a chicken sandwich or anything

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    05-07-2012 12:19 PM #24
    Oh- sorry for my reaction then.

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    05-07-2012 03:22 PM #25
    Quote Originally Posted by Papa Dras View Post
    Oh- sorry for my reaction then.
    It's cool, bro
    Quote Originally Posted by TheGreenspanator View Post
    Chik-fil-a I knew was a religious deal by not being open on Sunday, but it doesn't bother me because their fries are so ****ing excellent. And it's just food. They don't make you recite an "Our Father" to buy a chicken sandwich or anything

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    05-10-2012 02:53 PM #26
    Forget all that.........

    Chocolate covered espresso beans. pop five or six before a work out. omg i am wired, ready for anything. Hope I can fall asleep tonight LOL.

    And yes!!!!! today is chest day. Funny thing is, I grabbed a handful thinking they were raisin-etts.
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    05-10-2012 06:41 PM #27
    Quote Originally Posted by vwbrvr6 View Post
    Forget all that.........

    Chocolate covered espresso beans. pop five or six before a work out. omg i am wired, ready for anything. Hope I can fall asleep tonight LOL.
    .
    I've had some of those before, they're delicious. Where did you buy them? All the grocery stores around here don't stock them.

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    05-10-2012 06:45 PM #28
    They were my mom's, She either got them at Whole Foods, or Publix. Not sure but those are the 2 stores she shops at.
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