If I were in the market for such a thing, I would HAVE to have a BRZ. It's the only new car that makes me drool. The spirit of my late, beloved Sciroccos lives in these cars.
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I want a BR-Z so bad right now... all these videos are just making it worse
I find it interesting he compares the engine to a "Acura VTEC" opposed to just saying Honda.
I've read elsewhere that the engine is nowhere near as rev-happy as Honda's screamers though, which kind of puts me off. Speaking of Honda... Where oh where is their answer? I guess we'll just have to wait and see?
Pretty decent video and I enjoyed watching Randy Pobst drive both cars on the track. Hard for me to really say which one I'd rather have without really driving them. I like the grunt of the mustang and chassis finesse of the BRZ. If toyota/subaru gave us something maybe just a bit more like a 968, I'd be a bigger fan. And by 968, I mean a large 4-cyl motor so that it not only had a bit more power, but also more torque. Of course, a turbo could also address those issues.
A drivers car to me is something that is fun not only in the turns, but also in a straight line and the BRZ just doesn't seem like it would be all that fun if you weren't going at least 9/10's, at or close to redline, on a canyon road.
In the end, I'm not really a huge fan of either car, but I can see the advantages of both cars.
I think, if we can imagine such a thing, that the "grip to weight" of these two cars is pretty similar. The "Prius tires" are unfairly mocked, they're high-treadwear/low resistance, but they're also summer tires with stiff sidewalls and an ability to handle a lot of heat without getting greasy. Mr. Tada, the engineer, talks really highly of them.
When C&D gets the FR-S/BRZ onto VIR for a "Lightning Lap", the results should be really interesting. VIR in the Grand configuration they use has a couple 3000-foot straightaways and more elevation change than Streets of Willow, so it rewards power-to-weight ratios more heavily. In fact, C&D plotted their lap times against P:W and it's almost linear. But it'll be interesting to see if this is a car that can transcend moderate power output (like the RX-8 R3 or Golf R). If it were to fall right on the trend line, this car should run a 3:21 or so; but I bet it'll be quicker.
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I've owned that Mustang and boy was it sloppy just as the driver was complaining about.
It takes a pro driver to hit 1:29, where as an amateur could have hit 1:30 in the BRZ.
I'm just glad the base mustang is no longer a penalty box. I had a V6 Camaro (99) as my first car, and while it wasn't the be all end all, the engine was good enough (3.8 series 2) to get it into the high 14's, at a time while the V6 mustang was a 16 second car, and the V8 stang in 98 was a 15 second car as well. The times are a changing.
I view the BRZ as a hardtop version of the solstice, sky, miata. Not a Camaro competitor. We'll see. Most people put up with power shortcomings in a convertible, but not in a coupe (see RX8-although there were other issues). I think its a great shape and does everything right, but 200 hp for 27k, just not enough. Needs at least 250 in the base, and 300+ in the upgraded model. I know I'm missing the point, but I want more than that.