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    Thread: JDs archives: Little Big Fun (A4 vs 323i vs Contour SVT vs G20 vs 9-3 vs Jetta)

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      05-06-2012 07:42 PM #26
      Quote Originally Posted by BRealistic View Post
      The wheel/tire choice for the base 323i in this test is obviously what we like to call "lease spec".
      Lease spec

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      05-06-2012 07:53 PM #27
      Quote Originally Posted by MRVW00 View Post
      I think it's the cult car of the 90's of what the E30 was to the 80's.
      Hardly.

      Interesting comparison test though. I agree with everything they said about the Jetta.
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      05-06-2012 09:09 PM #28
      Quote Originally Posted by TangoRed View Post
      Hardly.
      Based on?

      BTW, am I the only one that notice the Jetta's NON-PRODUCTION COLOR?
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    4. 05-06-2012 09:11 PM #29
      Quote Originally Posted by MRVW00 View Post
      Based on?

      BTW, am I the only one that notice the Jetta's NON-PRODUCTION COLOR?
      You could get that color in 99. You could also get both of the snot greens at various points in time. There was also a copper-ish color if my memory works. If. If...

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      05-06-2012 09:26 PM #30
      I, too, remember reading this.

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    6. 05-06-2012 09:53 PM #31
      Quote Originally Posted by MRVW00 View Post
      Based on?

      BTW, am I the only one that notice the Jetta's NON-PRODUCTION COLOR?
      Wrong. Well, sort of.

      Futura Yellow AND Cosmic Green were both limited (very VERY limited) production colors that were available on the 99.5 Jetta at launch.

      I worked for VWoA very briefly, and I managed to dig up the production numbers. I want to say there were 50 - 100 Futura Yellow Jettas made, and 100+ Cosmic Green Jettas.

      So, it IS production, but so rare, you will likely never see one.
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    7. 05-06-2012 10:14 PM #32
      I miss when the A4 and 3 series were this cheap. Now a 328i can cost up to $50,000. Audi did a great job with the B5 A4. The inside and outside of car look very modern.

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      05-06-2012 10:51 PM #33
      I can't see how they didn't like the instrument cluster of the Jetta. It's just so elegant and nice. It's clean and legible also.
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      05-06-2012 11:33 PM #34
      Based on?

      BTW, am I the only one that notice the Jetta's NON-PRODUCTION COLOR?
      Sorry, I've seen 3 Futura Yellow Jettas. There wasn't a lot of them made, but they were there. All 3 of them were VR6s.

      I've also seen 2 Cosmic Green Jettas. One was a 2.0 and the other was Paul's (Cosmic TDI) TDI.

      Surprisingly, I've only seen 1 Jazz Blue 99.5 Golf. Weird thing is that the 99.5 Golfs had Jazz Blue listed as a stock color, but FY and Cg weren't options on the Jetta. I still have the literature from the 99.5 MY somewhere around here.
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      05-07-2012 12:38 AM #35
      Quote Originally Posted by Jrod511 View Post
      You could get that color in 99. You could also get both of the snot greens at various points in time. There was also a copper-ish color if my memory works. If. If...
      Quote Originally Posted by GolfVIDriver View Post
      Wrong. Well, sort of.

      Futura Yellow AND Cosmic Green were both limited (very VERY limited) production colors that were available on the 99.5 Jetta at launch.

      I worked for VWoA very briefly, and I managed to dig up the production numbers. I want to say there were 50 - 100 Futura Yellow Jettas made, and 100+ Cosmic Green Jettas.

      So, it IS production, but so rare, you will likely never see one.
      Told you Jrod!

      I worked for a VW dealer at the time, and ordering was a part of my job. We tried to order some, and the rep said it was discontinued....immediately. The midwest never received any.
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      05-07-2012 12:40 AM #36
      Quote Originally Posted by VertigoGTI View Post
      ... FY and Cg weren't options on the Jetta.
      They may have not been on the brochures, but WERE in the DEALER ORDER GUIDE.

      Trust me, I looked at them everyday. I do remember they were in the early guides, and deleted in later order guides.
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      05-07-2012 01:02 AM #37
      Quote Originally Posted by brandonwillyumz View Post
      I can't see how they didn't like the instrument cluster of the Jetta. It's just so elegant and nice. It's clean and legible also.
      Agreed

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      05-07-2012 08:59 PM #38
      Quote Originally Posted by Mosbius Designs View Post
      I remember reading this article like it was yesterday.
      ^This. I still have my copy of this issue. 2 1/2 years after getting it in the mail, I walked into Carmax and bought a 2000 SVT Contour with 9xxx miles from GolfVIDriver. It is everything C/D said it is. Thanks for scanning and posting!

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      2nd grade?!

      Holy crap, I'm old.
      This, too. :/ Get off my lawn!
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      TCL would suggest a Bi-Turbo to a single mother of 4 just for sh*t's and giggles.
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      This Corvette has a 300 hp LT1.
      Still.. if I wanted something that rode like a dump truck, I'll just get a dump truck.

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      05-07-2012 09:05 PM #39
      Quote Originally Posted by MRVW00 View Post
      Told you Jrod!

      I worked for a VW dealer at the time, and ordering was a part of my job. We tried to order some, and the rep said it was discontinued....immediately. The midwest never received any.
      I know of a Jetta that was in the Chicago area in the early 2000's. It may have been purchased elsewhere, though.
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      05-07-2012 09:09 PM #40
      Quote Originally Posted by 50fridge View Post
      I miss when the A4 and 3 series were this cheap. Now a 328i can cost up to $50,000. Audi did a great job with the B5 A4. The inside and outside of car look very modern.
      I hate to be "that guy," but the current 3-series and A4 are cheaper using real, inflation-adjusted, dollars, than the cars in this review.

      Example: Even the bargain-based 323i in this review was $28,200 in 1998. Assuming a conservative 2.5% inflation rate, that is worth OVER $40,000 in 2012 dollars. You can currently snap up a custom-ordered 2013 328i with sport package for $40,000 -- a MUCH more solid car than that old 323i.

      Same assessment goes for the Audi.

      The only category of cars that is not at an inflation-adjusted historically cheap price is exotic and supercars. Those things tend to perpetually increase in price wtih or exceeding the inflation rate.
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      05-07-2012 09:15 PM #41
      Quote Originally Posted by TJSwoboda View Post
      ^This. I still have my copy of this issue. 2 1/2 years after getting it in the mail, I walked into Carmax and bought a 2000 SVT Contour with 9xxx miles from GolfVIDriver. It is everything C/D said it is. Thanks for scanning and posting!


      This, too. :/ Get off my lawn!
      You're a little bit older than me, then.

      But, I did convince my parents to buy a 2002 Infiniti G20 Sport, and reading this article way back when was the start of the love affair for me. They loved that car, but it was just too small...ended up selling it after only two years. If I had more disposable income at that point in my life, I would have bought it...and I'd probably still be dailying that right now instead of my GTI.

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      05-07-2012 09:20 PM #42
      Quote Originally Posted by brandonwillyumz View Post
      I can't see how they didn't like the instrument cluster of the Jetta. It's just so elegant and nice. It's clean and legible also.
      Ditto. I love mine. I'm probably the only one, but I couldn't tolerate the Audi's or BMW's all-red clusters.
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      05-07-2012 10:08 PM #43
      Quote Originally Posted by Mosbius Designs View Post
      You're a little bit older than me, then.

      But, I did convince my parents to buy a 2002 Infiniti G20 Sport, and reading this article way back when was the start of the love affair for me. They loved that car, but it was just too small...ended up selling it after only two years. If I had more disposable income at that point in my life, I would have bought it...and I'd probably still be dailying that right now instead of my GTI.
      The article also piqued my interest in these, but I've never had the chance to drive one. A lot of people seem to think that they were just tarted up Sentras, but as far as I can tell everyone who actually drove a G20t, especially the three pedal version, seemed to love them.
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      This Corvette has a 300 hp LT1.
      Still.. if I wanted something that rode like a dump truck, I'll just get a dump truck.

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      05-07-2012 10:32 PM #44
      Quote Originally Posted by TJSwoboda View Post
      The article also piqued my interest in these, but I've never had the chance to drive one. A lot of people seem to think that they were just tarted up Sentras, but as far as I can tell everyone who actually drove a G20t, especially the three pedal version, seemed to love them.
      Unfortunately the beloved SR20DE became less potent as they made changes for stricter emissions year after year.
      Imagine what the G20 could have been with even a modest intercooled turbo set up.

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      05-07-2012 10:34 PM #45
      Quote Originally Posted by BRealistic View Post
      Unfortunately the beloved SR20DE became less potent as they made changes for stricter emissions year after year.
      Imagine what the G20 could have been with even a modern intercooled turbo set up.
      Or even something like a Civic Si motor, that would be a damn hoot with the LSD that came with the "t" (and later, Sport) model.

    21. 05-08-2012 12:07 AM #46
      I like how they state that the Jettas blue lit dash was blurry, yet in the picture they provided it is the sharpest and most legible.

      I too have this issue stored away somewhere.

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      05-08-2012 12:11 AM #47
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      I like how they state that the Jettas blue lit dash was blurry, yet in the picture they provided it is the sharpest and most legible.

      I too have this issue stored away somewhere.
      yes- the VW gauges were the best if they were trying to read the gauges with a Polaroid picture.
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    23. 05-08-2012 12:15 AM #48
      Quote Originally Posted by BRealistic View Post
      yes- the VW gauges were the best if they were trying to read the gauges with a Polaroid picture.
      Apparently the person taking the pictures didn't get the hang of the polaroid for the others.

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      05-08-2012 12:21 AM #49
      Quote Originally Posted by gizmopop View Post
      Apparently the person taking the pictures didn't get the hang of the polaroid for the others.
      Not sure if serious.

      Do you take pictures of your gauges, then print them out, to sew how fast you are growing?
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    25. 05-08-2012 12:28 AM #50
      Quote Originally Posted by BRealistic View Post
      Not sure if serious.

      Do you take pictures of your gauges, then print them out, to sew how fast you are growing?


      Anyway... No. But I had MKIV 99.5 Jetta GLS VR6, a 2002 GTI 337 and still have an 04 R32.
      None of them were blurry or hard to read at night.

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