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      05-07-2012 12:24 PM #1
      And wow what a difference! The extra power is very perceptible. No idea on how fuel economy is affected, if at all.

      No detergent, additives, or ethanol. Just plain distilled petroleum product. All gas should be like this.
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      05-07-2012 12:26 PM #2
      Quote Originally Posted by emmettlodge View Post
      And wow what a difference! The extra power is very perceptible. No idea on how fuel economy is affected, if at all.

      No detergent, additives, or ethanol. Just plain distilled petroleum product. All gas should be like this.
      LOL wat? Did you tap the refinery in Toledo or something? How the hell did you find plain, old, non-additive gasoline? It's hard enough finding non-ethanol gas ...

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      05-07-2012 12:30 PM #3
      Quote Originally Posted by seadoo2006 View Post
      LOL wat? Did you tap the refinery in Toledo or something? How the hell did you find plain, old, non-additive gasoline? It's hard enough finding non-ethanol gas ...
      It turns out the fuel shipped to our company in 55 gallon drums for our heavy equipment is exactly that. I heard it was "plain" and contacted our supplier to find out and they confirmed it. So i reimbursed our company for 20 gallons to try. Filled up from empty. Immediately noticable difference.
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      05-07-2012 12:31 PM #4
      Quote Originally Posted by emmettlodge View Post
      It turns out the fuel shipped to our company in 55 gallon drums for our heavy equipment is exactly that. I heard it was "plain" and contacted our supplier to find out and they confirmed it. So i reimbursed our company for 20 gallons to try. Filled up from empty. Immediately noticable difference.
      Well, that's very cool ... I wish there was some objective data to back this up since I don't know anyone that can even try what you did.

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      05-07-2012 12:32 PM #5
      It smells different too. Kinda "sweet". Its weird.
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      05-07-2012 12:32 PM #6
      just to double check your findings, you should ask TCL to borrow some of the finely calibrated knock sensing ears on this forum... people on here can apparently hear their late model OBD2 vehicles knocking from inside the car, before the electronics even know whats going on!
      its truly impressive

    7. 05-07-2012 12:34 PM #7
      What kind of chainsaw has a 20 gallon tank?

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      05-07-2012 12:36 PM #8
      Quote Originally Posted by Sagaris View Post
      What kind of chainsaw has a 20 gallon tank?
      Manly ones.
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      05-07-2012 12:36 PM #9
      You think it's good in your truck you should try it in your chainsaw!

      Get some 110 octane race gas for that Stihl!

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      05-07-2012 12:43 PM #10
      Quote Originally Posted by ValveCoverGasket View Post
      just to double check your findings, you should ask TCL to borrow some of the finely calibrated knock sensing ears on this forum... people on here can apparently hear their late model OBD2 vehicles knocking from inside the car, before the electronics even know whats going on!
      its truly impressive
      or you could just borrow a scangauge...
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      AP1 S2000? I can not in good conscience talk you out of that. May your slip angle be great and your bed not be the couch!

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      05-07-2012 12:48 PM #11
      I can't even get plain, non-E10 gas in my state, let alone additive- and detergent-free. That would be neat.
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      05-07-2012 12:56 PM #12
      Quote Originally Posted by ValveCoverGasket View Post
      just to double check your findings, you should ask TCL to borrow some of the finely calibrated knock sensing ears on this forum... people on here can apparently hear their late model OBD2 vehicles knocking from inside the car, before the electronics even know whats going on!
      its truly impressive
      Our '07 Sonata knocked on 87 octane at WOT when it was over 100°F (merging, passing, etc.). It didn't do it on premium or if I ran a bottle of Techron through it. It was loud enough that my better half noticed it, turned to me and said "What was that?" with a worried look on her face.


      Quote Originally Posted by emmettlodge View Post
      It smells different too. Kinda "sweet". Its weird.
      If you think about it, the ethanol gas smells like gas with vodka mixed in. Ethanol-free gas just smells like how I remember it smelling when I was a child.
      Improving the signal-to-noise ratio

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      05-07-2012 12:57 PM #13
      Quote Originally Posted by compy222 View Post
      or you could just borrow a scangauge...
      reading the other gas thread has me thinking that's not needed:

      Most nay-sayers say there's not a single difference between one station and the next, but from personal experience, my car doesn't run as well (very slightly noticeable pinging at idle) on gas from the station north of my apartment (don't know what brand) than it does on the station south of my apartment (Marathon).
      but i daily drive a diesel, so wtf do i know about gas quality...

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      05-07-2012 01:01 PM #14
      Quote Originally Posted by emmettlodge View Post
      It turns out the fuel shipped to our company in 55 gallon drums for our heavy equipment is exactly that. I heard it was "plain" and contacted our supplier to find out and they confirmed it. So i reimbursed our company for 20 gallons to try. Filled up from empty. Immediately noticable difference.
      Is that legal? Isn't off highway fuel not legal for road use? Don't take it the wrong way, Because I'd sure as hell do it too. I'm just wondering.
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      05-07-2012 01:04 PM #15
      Quote Originally Posted by ValveCoverGasket View Post
      but i daily drive a diesel, so wtf do i know about gas quality...
      truth in this. you are basically running the excrement of gas production at refineries.
      Quote Originally Posted by capsaicin View Post
      AP1 S2000? I can not in good conscience talk you out of that. May your slip angle be great and your bed not be the couch!

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      05-07-2012 01:09 PM #16
      Quote Originally Posted by 16v_43v3r View Post
      Is that legal? Isn't off highway fuel not legal for road use? Don't take it the wrong way, Because I'd sure as hell do it too. I'm just wondering.
      Good question, and i have no idea. I should probably delete this thread
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      05-07-2012 01:10 PM #17
      Quote Originally Posted by emmettlodge View Post
      Good question, and i have no idea.


      as an fyi for next time... its not.

    18. 05-07-2012 01:12 PM #18
      Quote Originally Posted by seadoo2006 View Post
      LOL wat? Did you tap the refinery in Toledo or something? How the hell did you find plain, old, non-additive gasoline? It's hard enough finding non-ethanol gas ...

      www.pure-gas.org

    19. 05-07-2012 01:13 PM #19
      Quote Originally Posted by emmettlodge View Post
      And wow what a difference! The extra power is very perceptible. No idea on how fuel economy is affected, if at all.

      No detergent, additives, or ethanol. Just plain distilled petroleum product. All gas should be like this.

      Nothing wrong with additives, plenty wrong with ethanol.

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      05-07-2012 01:32 PM #20
      Quote Originally Posted by Grey Mouser View Post
      Yep, and like I said, there are only two stations in a 50 mile radius of me that sell it, the Chardon Oil in Painesville and the Chardon Oil in Chardon ... both of which are my go to places for race gas as well. Just keep in mind they keep regular business hours, so don't try filling up after 6pm, they won't be there. LOL

      EDIT: Also notice how out of the 23 "Pure Gas" stations in Ohio, nearly every one is a Marina dock station that fills boats up (older boats aren't supposed to run E10). Finding pure gas in Ohio is EXTREMELY difficult.
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      05-07-2012 01:34 PM #21
      I'd imagine running long term with no detergent wouldn't be very good for your fueling system. No ethanol is cool though. There are still several stations here with no ethanol. Many claim to not have any in plus and premium grades only though.
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      05-07-2012 01:36 PM #22
      Quote Originally Posted by dwagner88 View Post
      I'd imagine running long term with no detergent wouldn't be very good for your fueling system. No ethanol is cool though. There are still several stations here with no ethanol. Many claim to not have any in plus and premium grades only though.
      Hah, I'd just settle on you guys down there keeping the 87-93 spread at 20c instead of 40c ... what the fark is up with every station in the mountains doing the 20c/grade jump instead of 10c?

      Usually, if it's $3.799 for 87, it would be $3.899 for 91 and $3.999 for 93 ... instead, this whole weekend it was $3.799 for 87, $3.999 for 91, and $4.199 for 93 ... fark you, Tennessee!

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      05-07-2012 01:37 PM #23
      Quote Originally Posted by Grey Mouser View Post
      How is this possible? I thought suppliers added ethanol as part of the refining process before it hits the truck?

      Add the fact that most stations get their fuel from the same depot, regardless of brand, and it makes me skeptical that some Rudy's BBQ Gas station (one I found sorta local to me) could have different gas then the station next door.
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      05-07-2012 01:41 PM #24
      Quote Originally Posted by dwagner88 View Post
      I'd imagine running long term with no detergent wouldn't be very good for your fueling system.
      What would the detergents be cleaning other than buildup from crap in the gas? Hmm..

      But you could always put some MMO in a tank every once in a while.
      It probably does just as good- if not better.
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      05-07-2012 01:43 PM #25
      Quote Originally Posted by cryption View Post
      Add the fact that most stations get their fuel from the same depot, regardless of brand, and it makes me skeptical that some Rudy's BBQ Gas station (one I found sorta local to me) could have different gas then the station next door.
      forget the gas, go get the brisket.

      good god now i want rudy's for lunch....
      dammit.

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