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    1. 05-07-2012 02:06 PM #1
      So, I just happen to come across this 997 GT3-RS loaded with mods.

      I was under the impression, that an RS was basically street legal Track ready vehicle.

      Is it really worth adding those mods?


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      05-07-2012 02:08 PM #2
      What kind of mods does it have?

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      Looks stock to me.?.
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      05-07-2012 02:09 PM #4
      Quote Originally Posted by Oliver@triplezoom View Post
      What kind of mods does it have?
      the ad says:

      OVER $50K IN UPGRADES

      GMG harness rollbar:
      GMG Dog Bone Kit
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      GMG GT thrust arm bushing kit
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      05-07-2012 02:10 PM #5
      certain mods make sense if you're going to track it, proper alignment/suspension bits, better tires, up-rated roll bar or harness bar.

      i recall one member on here having a very specialty 911 rear wing that was servo controlled for braking assistance.
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      05-07-2012 02:10 PM #6
      Quote Originally Posted by Oliver@triplezoom View Post
      What kind of mods does it have?
      Unfortunately for you, mods != moderators.

      I'm guessing there's a list of modifications on the ebay posting but the work filters block ebay.
      Lately I have been testing "tip-in events". Just the tip-in. Just to see how it feels. Response time is typically on the order of 2-3 seconds. Sometimes the injection timing is a little off...

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      05-07-2012 02:11 PM #7
      OVER $50K IN UPGRADES

      GMG harness rollbar:
      GMG Dog Bone Kit
      GMG WC front and rear sway bars
      GMG GT toe steer kit
      GMG GT thrust arm bushing kit
      GMG competition alignment

      GMG Sports Center Section exhaust

      Euro rear bumper

      Euro ride height, & corner balance
      Moton Clubsport coilovers w/Eibach springs
      GIAC software flash for 91octane fuel
      Porsche GT2 side skirts

      HAS NEVER SEEN THE TRACK
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      Last edited by phryxis; 05-07-2012 at 02:13 PM.

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      05-07-2012 02:11 PM #8
      No, I would not mod it. Seems like sacrilege to me (IMHO), but to each their own.

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      05-07-2012 02:11 PM #9
      Unless there is a serious Porsche tax on those parts, I don't see "over $50k in upgrades" there.

      Anyway... it sounds like they just made it even more hardened for track use, but then the ad description reads "Never seen the track," so I have no idea why the owner would've added those mods.

    10. 05-07-2012 02:12 PM #10
      Quote Originally Posted by Remedy View Post
      Is it really worth adding those mods?

      I don't get it...because it's "track ready" from factory means it cant be modified?
      I don't see why the owner can't modify one. Especially if it looks good & is beneficial to the car.
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      05-07-2012 02:12 PM #11
      Quote Originally Posted by phryxis View Post
      lolwut
      Poor car

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      05-07-2012 02:15 PM #12
      Quote Originally Posted by djsheijkdfj View Post
      Unless there is a serious Porsche tax on those parts, I don't see "over $50k in upgrades" there.

      Anyway... it sounds like they just made it even more hardened for track use, but then the ad description reads "Never seen the track," so I have no idea why the owner would've added those mods.
      The Motons themselves are 8-10k (although could be 2x that for Porsche tax) so I can see it getting that expensive.

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      05-07-2012 02:20 PM #13
      I don't know that I would approach it with a "modify" it mentality as I wouldn't be making great performance changes, but I would certainly "personalize" it so it wasn't the same as most other GT3 RS.
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      05-07-2012 02:25 PM #14
      Would I modify one? Maybe, sure. Would I modify it like that? Probably not.

      Would I track it? **** you for even asking.
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      05-07-2012 02:28 PM #15
      I'm surprised it's got all that and the guy didn't even spring for the PCCBs.

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      05-07-2012 02:28 PM #16
      Euro ride height........Wow, if that catches on were screwed.....

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      05-07-2012 02:30 PM #17
      wait it ass track specific mods yet has never seen the track wtfbbq

      what a waste

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      05-07-2012 02:34 PM #18
      If I owned a 996 I would modify it. I feel like the 997 and newer are still fresh enough cars that they can hang with most modern competition, to a certain degree. All depends on what kind of driving the owner has in mind I suppose.
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      05-07-2012 02:36 PM #19
      Quote Originally Posted by Fritz27 View Post
      I'm surprised it's got all that and the guy didn't even spring for the PCCBs.
      PCCB's have a poor reputation with those who actually track these things. Maybe they are better now, but they used to be known for having issues on the track and costing 5 figures to remedy. For that much coin you can get about 5 sets of iron rotors.

      Getting back to the OP, any car can be improved on. I personally know 2 guys who modified their GT3 RS's (one 996 and one 997.1) and I believe they were both happy with the results.

      Both were two of the most amazing street cars I've ever driven though I didn't drive either in a setting that would showcase the mods (track).

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      05-07-2012 02:36 PM #20
      if i had one and had then money then yea why not

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      05-07-2012 02:37 PM #21
      Quote Originally Posted by JettaGT8V80 View Post
      wait it ass track specific mods yet has never seen the track wtfbbq

      what a waste
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      05-07-2012 02:41 PM #22
      Quote Originally Posted by Shomegrown View Post
      PCCB's have a poor reputation with those who actually track these things. Maybe they are better now, but they used to be known for having issues on the track and costing 5 figures to remedy. For that much coin you can get about 5 sets of iron rotors.
      Yeah, they're known by some as single-session rotors.
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      05-07-2012 02:42 PM #23
      Quote Originally Posted by JettaGT8V80 View Post
      wait it ass track specific mods yet has never seen the track wtfbbq

      what a waste
      how are those mods track specific? They are just driving specific, you don't think you can appreciate some suspension setup on the street? People are getting a bit silly about it "not being on the track" let's not forget this is a ROAD CAR. The guy didn't buy a Radical or something he bought a Porsche and drove it where most GT3 owners drive their car, THE ROAD.

      Say you're in the market for a gt3 rs, you've got two options
      1: "Yeah it's a great car, added a few mods and just drove it around and enjoyed it. never got it on the track myself"
      or 2: "Yeah I'm big into track days, this car was factory built for the track so I do as Porsche intended and flog this thing mercilessly on a weekly basis. I push this machine to it's limit"

      so you're gonna buy car 2?
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      05-07-2012 02:42 PM #24
      If it something more than say wheels, I probably wouldn't mod it. Unless I felt that the car lacked something on the track, but something tells me that GT3 RS even with stock calibrations is far more than I'm capable of taming. I would never mod the car just for the sake of modding.

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      05-07-2012 02:43 PM #25
      I don't know why but I can't believe some ricer kid painted his wheels orange!!







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      05-07-2012 02:45 PM #26
      If I was going to use it on the track, sure.

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      05-07-2012 02:50 PM #27
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      Yes, I would bag it, negative camber, and get some low offset, wide wheels.
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      05-07-2012 02:52 PM #29
      Quote Originally Posted by MikeSAABt View Post
      how are those mods track specific? They are just driving specific, you don't think you can appreciate some suspension setup on the street? People are getting a bit silly about it "not being on the track" let's not forget this is a ROAD CAR. The guy didn't buy a Radical or something he bought a Porsche and drove it where most GT3 owners drive their car, THE ROAD.

      Say you're in the market for a gt3 rs, you've got two options
      1: "Yeah it's a great car, added a few mods and just drove it around and enjoyed it. never got it on the track myself"
      or 2: "Yeah I'm big into track days, this car was factory built for the track so I do as Porsche intended and flog this thing mercilessly on a weekly basis. I push this machine to it's limit"

      so you're gonna buy car 2?
      I think most people would opt for car 1, but that's not the point - the mods are a complete waste on the street. The car is intense enough from the factory, you will notice the difference before/after little, if at all. That mod list is for someone who wants to extract the last .01% out of the car on the track.

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      05-07-2012 02:55 PM #30
      I know a couple of GT3 RSs that are modded for track use. Here's one. I noticed weird cambers, full cage (instead of just the stock rear cage), suspension (it's lower), wheels (Ultraleggeras are probably lighter than the stockers) and an exhaust loud enough not to pass this specific track's noise limit (hence the additional mufflers).

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      05-07-2012 02:58 PM #31
      Quote Originally Posted by Jay-Bee View Post
      That color combo is IMO the best one for the 997.1 GT3 RS. But the sports seats instead of the buckets would be dealbreaker for me. How are you supposed to track a car like that with no proper buckets?
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    32. 05-07-2012 04:29 PM #32
      Quote Originally Posted by DTMTrini View Post
      I don't get it...because it's "track ready" from factory means it cant be modified?
      I don't see why the owner can't modify one. Especially if it looks good & is beneficial to the car.
      I was not saying "it can't be modified". I was merely saying, why would you? The GT3RS is ready to go as is.

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      05-07-2012 04:39 PM #33
      The sad thing is that I can already envision that car and the owner getting his ass handed to him by a bone stock 996 with R compound tires. If there is one thing I saw A LOT of when working with PCA racing is owners who dumped tons of money into their car and not understanding why it wasn't going faster than the competition. There were dozens of people every year which would show up with a $100k+ car that had tens of thousands of dollars in modifications. Some of them would almost throw a fit when a "lower" class car caught them, lapped them, and then won the race. They didn't understand that the BEST modification you can make to any automobile is the "nut behind the wheel" and not the metal on the car.

      Club Racing was a great exercise for people to really push their cars to the edge. It also was a great exercise for the "more money than brains" crowd to finally figure out that throwing money at a car doesn't necessarily make it better than the one you started with.

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      05-07-2012 04:44 PM #34
      Quote Originally Posted by kevin FaKiN spLits View Post
      Yes, I would bag it, negative camber, and get some low offset, wide wheels.
      you forgot to add stickers, what kind of doucheBro-ride would it be with out the stickers. And of course the driver would need a flat brim

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      05-07-2012 05:15 PM #35
      I would ABSOLUTELY mode the living hell out of the GT3RS if I owned one. Those cars were designed (ok, sold as) a track day cars. Anyone who frequents track days knows that sooner or later you will be off the track and potentially damaging something. Therefore these are not suitable as collectors items at all. Furthermore anyone who buys a used GT3RS should not be expecting a mint car that has never been driven on the track. That'll be just naive.

      So yeah, mod away!

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