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    Thread: So Just Once Lets do something different - MK3 NA 20V ITBS 06X Lugtronic Content

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      05-07-2012 04:17 PM #1
      Finally car is almost finished so figured it was time to share. I wanted to build something different after destroying my turbo car. Reused a handful of things and was able to sell alot of the turbo stuff to fund this project. Big thanks to Caste Systems Performance for helping me build the car, Lugtronic, and all my friends who helped along the way. We were able to bang out a 12.99@102 at the track still working out the best setup. Will be dynoing soon. Here are the engine specs:

      Wossner 82.7mm 12.3:1 Pistons
      Scat connecting rods
      FSI Crank
      Forcefed Engineering Crank Modification
      AEB head, Supertech exhaust valves
      Cat Gold springs, Rosten retainers
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      Injector Dynamics ID 1000cc fuel injectors
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      FuelLab Pre and Post Filters and FPR
      Full 3" Aluminum Exhaust
      E85 Fuel

      Engine Bay with Temporary catch Can


      Velocity Stacks

      Car in street trim

      Motor before it went in

      Somewhere during the build process

      Modified 06X accessory bracket with ABF alternator

      Header fitment

      Modifed to 3" 2 1/4 just wasnt going to cut it.


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      05-08-2012 07:42 AM #2
      Awesome build, would love to hear how she sounds

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      05-08-2012 09:40 AM #3
      It's good to see this one coming together.

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      05-08-2012 11:37 AM #4
      that work area is a mess

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      05-08-2012 03:29 PM #5
      You forgot to mention the sweet steelies.
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      05-08-2012 03:48 PM #6
      oh yeah nice BNO reference in the title

    7. 05-12-2012 03:35 PM #7
      niceeeee! love this. Keep up the work!
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      05-22-2012 10:22 PM #8
      Really dig this

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      05-22-2012 10:31 PM #9
      thanks. hoping to get back out to the track. if it ever stops raining.

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      06-09-2012 11:04 PM #11
      What's she weighing in at?

      Looks like you fixed the heat.
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      06-10-2012 02:01 AM #12
      2150. Still some weight to lose.
      What do you mean fix the heat?

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      06-10-2012 05:16 AM #13
      Hail mary at a joke off that old Howarth video. I'm not used to seeing a mk3 bay with heater core hoses!

      Car's awesome man
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      I want to buy some 4x100 15" Pininfarinas. If you have one of the few sets i've seen, please let me know.

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      06-10-2012 05:13 PM #14
      Heat is one of those things that is nice to have. The AC part is removed. Hoping to get back to track if it ever stops raining.

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      06-10-2012 05:32 PM #15
      Ben doesn't have enough insulation to go without heat.
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      06-10-2012 05:49 PM #16
      Def not. Also ask Todd how it was racing without defrost

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      06-10-2012 05:52 PM #17
      World Cup Finals is definately a good place to have heat in the car, lol.
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      07-03-2012 08:40 PM #18
      Quote Originally Posted by turbodub View Post
      oh yeah nice BNO reference in the title
      And I thought I'd be the only one to get this. They started here in Oakville. I see dave at the bar all the time.
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      07-04-2012 01:11 AM #19
      Good ****. I used to see them all the time when they'd come to NJ. I was actually up there for their reunion show a few years ago.

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      07-24-2012 12:08 AM #20
      Was able to bang out a 12.75 @ 105 at the track. Pretty happy with the thing. Hoping someone took video.

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      07-24-2012 11:34 AM #21
      Life begins at 101 kpa ...and so does poverty--Lugnuts Calhoun

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      07-24-2012 12:18 PM #22
      Thanks mark. I found one other on YouTube I will link later

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      I thought I was recording but all I did was take a picture. still getting used to this new phone lol
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      07-24-2012 10:58 PM #24
      Nicely done.
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      07-25-2012 12:22 AM #25
      Thanks. Gonna keep working at it and hope to get the rest of you NA guys excited to race again.

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      08-20-2012 07:05 PM #26
      Im building the same motor for my mk3 right now. Can you give me some info on the ITB setup?

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      08-20-2012 07:25 PM #27
      It is an ADR lower manifold mated to a flange from zornig. The flange is for Toyota ae111 or ae101 throttle bodies. The manifold was modified to get the proper angle. Velocity stacks from techno toy tuning. There are other lengths available but not easily in US and ITG filter with custom made plate. Custom made fuel rail and brackets. Custom made vacuum manifold.

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      08-20-2012 07:38 PM #28
      What would it cost to have one made? I was going BT 1.8T but decided I would rather spend the extra $4k on paint and body so I can have the car finished sooner.

      I have the AEB head already and will have an aba block soon. I had one that I sold or else Id be on my way

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      08-20-2012 08:38 PM #29
      Not sure. Some of the companies make Itbs for 20v and it is about the same by the time you add it all up

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      08-20-2012 09:42 PM #30
      Ive been looking but can't find any.

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      08-20-2012 10:10 PM #31
      Extrudabody. Twm induction might have something. Badger might also. Maybe a few others I am forgetting.

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      08-21-2012 12:17 AM #32
      Hope you don't mind me adding more info in this thread. I also used an ADR manifold, then used 750 GSXR bike ITBs. With some all thread rod, nuts and/or washers spaced out for correct manifold spacing, and these were also the correct diameter for the ADR couplers.



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      08-21-2012 12:42 AM #33
      Do you have any problem with the small throw using motorcycle throttle bodies? We have a car at the shop with extrudabodies and the pedal goes from idle to WOT in a really short distance. With the AE111 it has a more normal feel to it because they were designed for a car. I've heard that OBX makes knock offs of the Toyota throttle bodies for a honda. Someone should give them a whirl.

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      08-21-2012 01:25 AM #34
      That was probably back in 2008 and it was only ITB'd for one summer. So recalling, it didn't seem short, but guessing shorter than a stock cable throw. The cable was actually a bike shifter cable to make it all work correctly. I'm sure there are better options out there that are more fit for automotive use, just wanted to throw that info out there as it's a cheap option. We all know that's not always the best choice though. The car ran great at WOT but was fairly touchy at partial throttle, which is probably part of the shorter throw you were asking about. Hope that clears it up a bit.

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      08-21-2012 07:40 AM #35
      For the bike throttles they are touchy unless you put on a progressive throttle cam from a stock tb or make a larger std one.
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