So Just Once Lets do something different - MK3 NA 20V ITBS 06X Lugtronic Content

[bonesaw]

Finally car is almost finished so figured it was time to share. I wanted to build something different after destroying my turbo car. Reused a handful of things and was able to sell alot of the turbo stuff to fund this project. Big thanks to Caste Systems Performance for helping me build the car, Lugtronic, and all my friends who helped along the way. We were able to bang out a 12.99@102 at the track still working out the best setup. Will be dynoing soon. Here are the engine specs:

Wossner 82.7mm 12.3:1 Pistons
Scat connecting rods
FSI Crank
Forcefed Engineering Crank Modification
AEB head, Supertech exhaust valves
Cat Gold springs, Rosten retainers
Cat 3652 camshafts
48mm Throttle Bodies w/ Custom Manifold
Techtonics Tuning 4 to 1 Header (Then modified to 3" out)
Custom ABF Alternator Bracket
Quaife Gears w/Peloquin LSD
Clutchmasters FX700 Twin Disc Clutch
DSS Stage 3 Axles
Lugtronic Wire In ECU with Custom Harness with Bulkhead and lots of Data sensors
Injector Dynamics ID 1000cc fuel injectors
Bosch 044 Fuel Pump
FuelLab Pre and Post Filters and FPR
Full 3" Aluminum Exhaust
E85 Fuel

Engine Bay with Temporary catch Can


Velocity Stacks

Car in street trim

Motor before it went in

Somewhere during the build process

Modified 06X accessory bracket with ABF alternator

Header fitment

Modifed to 3" 2 1/4 just wasnt going to cut it.

[02vwgolf]

Awesome build, would love to hear how she sounds

[billyVR6]

It's good to see this one coming together.

[turbodub]

that work area is a mess

[Mark Morris]

You forgot to mention the sweet steelies.

[turbodub]

oh yeah nice BNO reference in the title

[fourthchirpin]

niceeeee! love this. Keep up the work!

[d-bot]

Really dig this

[bonesaw]

thanks. hoping to get back out to the track. if it ever stops raining.

[FLATBLACKMK2]

Jay Fay

[root beer]

What's she weighing in at?

Looks like you fixed the heat.

[bonesaw]

2150. Still some weight to lose.
What do you mean fix the heat?

[root beer]

Hail mary at a joke off that old Howarth video. I'm not used to seeing a mk3 bay with heater core hoses!

Car's awesome man

[bonesaw]

Heat is one of those things that is nice to have. The AC part is removed. Hoping to get back to track if it ever stops raining.

[Mark Morris]

Ben doesn't have enough insulation to go without heat.

[bonesaw]

Def not. Also ask Todd how it was racing without defrost

[Mark Morris]

World Cup Finals is definately a good place to have heat in the car, lol.

[masterqaz]

oh yeah nice BNO reference in the title

And I thought I'd be the only one to get this. They started here in Oakville. I see dave at the bar all the time.

[bonesaw]

Good ****. I used to see them all the time when they'd come to NJ. I was actually up there for their reunion show a few years ago.

[bonesaw]

Was able to bang out a 12.75 @ 105 at the track. Pretty happy with the thing. Hoping someone took video.

[Mark Morris]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XImeI...layer_embedded

[bonesaw]

Thanks mark. I found one other on YouTube I will link later

[fourthchirpin]

I thought I was recording but all I did was take a picture. still getting used to this new phone lol

[need_a_VR6]

Nicely done.

[bonesaw]

Thanks. Gonna keep working at it and hope to get the rest of you NA guys excited to race again.

[harlequin80]

Im building the same motor for my mk3 right now. Can you give me some info on the ITB setup?

[bonesaw]

It is an ADR lower manifold mated to a flange from zornig. The flange is for Toyota ae111 or ae101 throttle bodies. The manifold was modified to get the proper angle. Velocity stacks from techno toy tuning. There are other lengths available but not easily in US and ITG filter with custom made plate. Custom made fuel rail and brackets. Custom made vacuum manifold.

[harlequin80]

What would it cost to have one made? I was going BT 1.8T but decided I would rather spend the extra $4k on paint and body so I can have the car finished sooner.

I have the AEB head already and will have an aba block soon. I had one that I sold or else Id be on my way

[bonesaw]

Not sure. Some of the companies make Itbs for 20v and it is about the same by the time you add it all up

[harlequin80]

Ive been looking but can't find any.

[bonesaw]

Extrudabody. Twm induction might have something. Badger might also. Maybe a few others I am forgetting.

[d-bot]

Hope you don't mind me adding more info in this thread. I also used an ADR manifold, then used 750 GSXR bike ITBs. With some all thread rod, nuts and/or washers spaced out for correct manifold spacing, and these were also the correct diameter for the ADR couplers.



Keep it up Bonesaw, love what you are doing.

[bonesaw]

Do you have any problem with the small throw using motorcycle throttle bodies? We have a car at the shop with extrudabodies and the pedal goes from idle to WOT in a really short distance. With the AE111 it has a more normal feel to it because they were designed for a car. I've heard that OBX makes knock offs of the Toyota throttle bodies for a honda. Someone should give them a whirl.

[d-bot]

That was probably back in 2008 and it was only ITB'd for one summer. So recalling, it didn't seem short, but guessing shorter than a stock cable throw. The cable was actually a bike shifter cable to make it all work correctly. I'm sure there are better options out there that are more fit for automotive use, just wanted to throw that info out there as it's a cheap option. We all know that's not always the best choice though. The car ran great at WOT but was fairly touchy at partial throttle, which is probably part of the shorter throw you were asking about. Hope that clears it up a bit.

[need_a_VR6]

For the bike throttles they are touchy unless you put on a progressive throttle cam from a stock tb or make a larger std one.