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    Thread: So Just Once Lets do something different - MK3 NA 20V ITBS 06X Lugtronic Content

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      08-20-2012 07:05 PM #26
      Im building the same motor for my mk3 right now. Can you give me some info on the ITB setup?

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      08-20-2012 07:25 PM #27
      It is an ADR lower manifold mated to a flange from zornig. The flange is for Toyota ae111 or ae101 throttle bodies. The manifold was modified to get the proper angle. Velocity stacks from techno toy tuning. There are other lengths available but not easily in US and ITG filter with custom made plate. Custom made fuel rail and brackets. Custom made vacuum manifold.

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      08-20-2012 07:38 PM #28
      What would it cost to have one made? I was going BT 1.8T but decided I would rather spend the extra $4k on paint and body so I can have the car finished sooner.

      I have the AEB head already and will have an aba block soon. I had one that I sold or else Id be on my way

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      08-20-2012 08:38 PM #29
      Not sure. Some of the companies make Itbs for 20v and it is about the same by the time you add it all up

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      08-20-2012 09:42 PM #30
      Ive been looking but can't find any.

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      08-20-2012 10:10 PM #31
      Extrudabody. Twm induction might have something. Badger might also. Maybe a few others I am forgetting.

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      08-21-2012 12:17 AM #32
      Hope you don't mind me adding more info in this thread. I also used an ADR manifold, then used 750 GSXR bike ITBs. With some all thread rod, nuts and/or washers spaced out for correct manifold spacing, and these were also the correct diameter for the ADR couplers.



      Keep it up Bonesaw, love what you are doing.

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      08-21-2012 12:42 AM #33
      Do you have any problem with the small throw using motorcycle throttle bodies? We have a car at the shop with extrudabodies and the pedal goes from idle to WOT in a really short distance. With the AE111 it has a more normal feel to it because they were designed for a car. I've heard that OBX makes knock offs of the Toyota throttle bodies for a honda. Someone should give them a whirl.

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      08-21-2012 01:25 AM #34
      That was probably back in 2008 and it was only ITB'd for one summer. So recalling, it didn't seem short, but guessing shorter than a stock cable throw. The cable was actually a bike shifter cable to make it all work correctly. I'm sure there are better options out there that are more fit for automotive use, just wanted to throw that info out there as it's a cheap option. We all know that's not always the best choice though. The car ran great at WOT but was fairly touchy at partial throttle, which is probably part of the shorter throw you were asking about. Hope that clears it up a bit.

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      08-21-2012 07:40 AM #35
      For the bike throttles they are touchy unless you put on a progressive throttle cam from a stock tb or make a larger std one.
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      09-23-2012 09:56 PM #36
      Ran a new personal best today at Fall show and go. 12.58 @ 106.87. It was the exact same setup as my 12.75 @ Waterfest. Same E70 gas that i bought in april. Really happy with the car. Developed another trans problem but will get it all sorted out and back to the track.

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      09-24-2012 06:37 AM #37
      Quote Originally Posted by need_a_VR6 View Post
      For the bike throttles they are touchy unless you put on a progressive throttle cam from a stock tb or make a larger std one.
      When we were running our GTL Scirocco with GSXR ITBs we just made a larger cam. It was actually pretty easy.
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      09-24-2012 12:23 PM #38
      Just picked up and stripped my obd1 ABA block. Time to get on it. Mind if I bother you with questions?

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      09-24-2012 02:25 PM #39
      ask away.

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      09-24-2012 04:22 PM #40
      [QUOTE=bonesaw;79081757]Ran a new personal best today at Fall show and go. 12.58 @ 106.87. QUOTE]

      Awesome Ben! Let's put some real fuel in that thing and see what it will do in good air on a good track.
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      09-24-2012 07:31 PM #41
      You mean this 6 month old e70 isn't helping? Lol

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      09-24-2012 07:51 PM #42
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      09-28-2012 02:02 PM #43
      how are you weighing in at 2150? my mk2 golf weighed in at 2360

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      09-28-2012 02:28 PM #44
      The driver weighs about 80 pounds. you Ben!
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      09-28-2012 05:07 PM #45
      I weigh 145. Car weighs 2110. I'd like to get some more weight out of it but don't really want to give up heat. Nothing is cut just removed unneeded weight.

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      09-28-2012 06:43 PM #46
      what all did you take out to drop that much weight? i thought mk3 gti's weighd at least 2600 pounds.

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      09-28-2012 08:59 PM #47
      Rebars door bars. Seats. Undercoating. Alum exhaust. Still has dash and heat. No cutting. 2110 is with just stock driver seat. 2150 with 2 stock seats. Still got some more weight to take out.

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      09-29-2012 10:36 AM #48
      My mk3 in street trim (front half interior) w vr6 was 2450 w me at a solid 200lbs. Hes right where he should be. Getting to a class legal 2150 is going to take more work.
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      09-29-2012 11:16 AM #49
      4 cyl is 1900lbs. I don't see how that is ever happening. Let alone the car being competitive without throwing a lot of money at it.
      Last edited by bonesaw; 09-29-2012 at 11:19 AM.

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      09-29-2012 03:29 PM #50
      Not without cutting. Maybe with no dash and lexan, which would be legal. The only reason to run a 6cyl is for ballast.
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