e36 m3 catless with magnaflow muffler

[danny_16v]

see there ya go! =] i trust bilstein

your boys E36 is below that...

you still haven't told us what suspension it has.

[A1pocketrocket]

TCL is just a bunch of sour souls


love the sound/car that raspy sound is soo addicting

coming from someone with "Girls and Money and New Clothes" in their signature.
consider me floored, ABSOLUTELY SHOCKED.

[hipster.]

coming from someone with "Girls and Money and New Clothes" in their signature.
consider me floored, ABSOLUTELY SHOCKED.

[E34M50]

coming from someone with "Girls and Money and New Clothes" in their signature.
consider me floored, ABSOLUTELY SHOCKED.

they are the lyrics from my favourite band.

[A1pocketrocket]

they are the lyrics from my favourite band.

again, I am reeling in shock.

[E34M50]

again, I am reeling in shock.

please explain, because i honestly do not get it.....

[PurduinaM3]

Perfect car?!?!

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

No fogs, no underpanel, ****ty wheels that don't fit, crappy suspension, backwards sidemarkers, and a typical 16 yr old behind the wheel.

Half assed by some kid. Man I hate what the E36 community has become these days...

[71DubBugBug]

wonder what it sounds like driving, as in how loud it is doing 40 in 3rd or 4th

[99MPower]

you serious?

faster than the newer 3.2s? what newer 3.2? a stock one?

want to run mine?

[99MPower]

Perfect car?!?!

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

No fogs, no underpanel, ****ty wheels that don't fit, crappy suspension, backwards sidemarkers, and a typical 16 yr old behind the wheel.

Half assed by some kid. Man I hate what the E36 community has become these days...

this... .fcuking sad to see this shiet....

[VW81Rabbit]

I am completely baffled to say the least...everyone in here thinks in some way stock suspension is better than coilovers. Even at this ride height the suspension is in no way worse than stock, to say the least. Geometry, maybe? I haven't actually got under my own car to look at where my control arms etc are sitting with my car lowered

But Im not sure if you guys know anything about coilovers or how they work? I believe the owner of the car video'd has D2 coilovers (something like that) These allow you to set your rebound and ride height in two completely different functions. Therefor the suspension/shock travel is in NO way effected by lowering the car.

Get with it people. You're bashing a great car and for what? coilovers that can be adjusted to however anyone wants them and a exhaust wooo! three effing bolts can fix that. This car also has stainless S52 headers.

[magics5rip]

But Im not sure if you guys know anything about coilovers or how they work? I believe the owner of the car video'd has D2 coilovers (something like that) These allow you to set your rebound and ride height in two completely different functions. Therefor the suspension/shock travel is in NO way effected by lowering the car.

Of course shock/suspension travel is effected. That is inherent to lowering the car.

[VW81Rabbit]

Of course shock/suspension travel is effected. That is inherent to lowering the car.

disagree, when you wind the whole housing of the coilover down your travel is NOT effected. The only problems you would have is if your tires are hitting something before your bumpstops or if youre actually hitting the ground before your bump stops in which case your rebound and spring rates suck anyway

[PurduinaM3]

disagree, when you wind the whole housing of the coilover down your travel is NOT effected. The only problems you would have is if your tires are hitting something before your bumpstops or if youre actually hitting the ground before your bump stops in which case your rebound and spring rates suck anyway

You obviously have NO clue how suspension works... Nothing in this post makes any sense what so ever. I would reply with an educated post, but I feel like it would be worthless and fall on deaf ears. Keep thinking what you think... We'll just keep laughing at you

[Dustin DeSimone]

[Dustin DeSimone]

If you look at the picture I posted, you can see that the shock can be threaded into the bottom cup without losing any travel. I would say that what 81rabbit said is completely accurate. Unless you don't get coilovers with this great feature

[magics5rip]

If you look at the picture I posted, you can see that the shock can be threaded into the bottom cup without losing any travel. I would say that what 81rabbit said is completely accurate. Unless you don't get coilovers with this great feature

Yes, theortically you do retain the travel with this setup. However, is all of that travel USABLE? If you are bottomed out and your frame is 1/2" from the ground, I'd say you have about 1/2" of usable suspension travel if not less. If you go beyond that, your car is below the surface of the road which really isn't possible.

It's a great feature, I know the Ksports used to have this as well. But there is a transition point where you start losing travel even though you are sleeving the shock through the knuckle.

[VW81Rabbit]

what newbs. Dustin, i will do a video tomorrow on "coilovers for dummies" to show these folks how they work Maybe even do a video of the air ride on the porsche so you guys can figure out why im losing suspension travel when its in "low" mode

[VW81Rabbit]

Yes, theortically you do retain the travel with this setup. However, is all of that travel USABLE? If you are bottomed out and your frame is 1/2" from the ground, I'd say you have about 1/2" of usable suspension travel if not less. If you go beyond that, your car is below the surface of the road which really isn't possible.

It's a great feature, I know the Ksports used to have this as well. But there is a transition point where you start losing travel even though you are sleeving the shock through the knuckle.

Right, this is the only point i was trying to get across. Setting aside the fact that the car MAY bottom out on the ground and/or tires may rub..the suspension travel IS still there. Although PurduinaM3 has more information on how coilovers work but refuses to tell

[magics5rip]

Right, this is the only point i was trying to get across. Setting aside the fact that the car MAY bottom out on the ground and/or tires may rub..the suspension travel IS still there. Although PurduinaM3 has more information on how coilovers work but refuses to tell

I'm new to TCL snark; I try bringing reason and rationale to the conversation. I'll be trolling by next week

[Bimmerman325i]

Aaahahahahahhahaa.

OP, thanks for doing this to your car, it's driving my car's value up.

[Das Borgen]

you guys are WAY too critical. I have rode in and driven this car. It handles amazingly and is very fast. Its a 3.0 and it is much fast than the newer newer e36 3.2 liter m3s. And these arent honda civic wheels??? They are BBS style 5's. civcs dont run 17 inch wheels, they run 15 inch rotas. Its not like he put a wing and a jdm bumper on his car lmao. He lowered it on coilovers, upgraded the exhuast, and nice wheels. Literally it doesnt even rub anyway and can be driven on any road. Its a very practical fun and fast car. Loosen up guys.

BTW I like the cat picture.

it's evident that you don't know **** about real performance suspension even if after riding in it you think it's good

your friend also doesn't know anything

[Das Borgen]

Eisenmann and Stromung also sound better IMO

I got a Stromung on my E36 M3
I had an Active Autowerke on my old M3

[Das Borgen]

this is what an E36 M3 is meant for





what your friend did does nothing to help it but rather decreases its ability

(yes that's me driving my car)

[scott_0]

where did it go? guess Im too late..........guessing the OP "took his ball and went home"

[330iZHP]

i missed it too

[magics5rip]

Link works depending on browser.

[Dustin DeSimone]

So is this guy doing it wrong?

[ncsumecheng]

If you want to see the vid but can't see the link in the browser, hit "reply with quote" to the original post and you'll see the Youtube video link.

Sounds like trash. Looks like th 100% typical douche young owner trying to show off that he can afford the cheapest possible M3 BMW available used on craigslist.

Car looks busted with the stuff missing in the front bumper.

Nothing more special than any kid cruising Walmart at night looking for middle-school chicks.

Sorry, no win. Other than it is still an E36 M3, which means with good taste, proper repairs, this thing could be money. Could be. Minus the middle-school girls cruising with him in the back seat.

[Das Borgen]

So is this guy doing it wrong?

don't you dare compare your idiot friend to Chuck Stickley...
........Stickley actually did testing to find settings that work on the track and his car is not nearly as slammed as your friend's car

matter of fact, his C-Mod car's drop is not as much as you think it is and it does compromise the roll center a bit but it was corner balanced at the very least


come back when you learn what corner balancing is

[hipster.]

don't you dare compare your idiot friend to Chuck Stickley...
........Stickley actually did testing to find settings that work on the track and his car is not nearly as slammed as your friend's car

matter of fact, his C-Mod car's drop is not as much as you think it is and it does compromise the roll center a bit but it was corner balanced at the very least


come back when you learn what corner balancing is

BURN!

[danny_16v]

So is this guy doing it wrong?

That car's actually not that low.... definitely not as low as yours. It has 18's and big slicks. You're on tiny 17's and what looks like 215 tires... again form over function.

[_qWERTY]

That thing sounds like pure ****

[Max Rebo]

That car's actually not that low.... definitely not as low as yours. It has 18's and big slicks. You're on tiny 17's and what looks like 215 tires... again form over function.

I'm not sure if it's the case with the race car pictured above, but isn't it also common (for racing teams with big budgets) to completely change the suspension geometry, mounting points, and everything else in order to accommodate the lowered ride height? (I'm thinking of GT2 and GT3 class cars like we see in ALMS). Is that accurate? That takes a few more dollars and cents beyond slamming it on coilovers.

[99MPower]

check out my friends e36 m3 with headers, no cats, and magnaflow muffler. This thing sounds crisp. Not to mention its crushed on style 5's. Pretty much the perfect car.

I finally got a chance to listen to this hunk of shiet...

where is the underpanel?
where are the fog lights?
where is the suspension travel?
where is the tire width that allows the car to be the best handling car back in the 90's?
where
where
where


but a giant cluster fcuk of a car




my 99 M3 with me driving at Autobahn Country Club last year