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Thread: Corrado vr6 159.9hp??? What is the problem??? Help!!!

  1. 05-08-2012 03:33 PM #1
    Hello all, I have a corrado 2.9 vr6 engine revised recently (7500km), kolbenshmidt pistons, bearings king, victor reinz gaskets, recently I changed the servo pump, spark plugs, spark plug wires, the lambda sensor, hydraulic tappets, hydraulic chain tensioner, and more and more but i don't remember now. I made the compression test and the result was 12.5 bar on all cylinders(+/- 0.3bar). The only change I made was remove ​​the catalyst and silencers and relaced with pipe 60mm, today I did a dyno texts and the result was 159.9hp. I also checked the timing and it's all right. You ideea what should I check again, or what the problem is? Sorry for my poor English. thanks

    I'd like to attach the dyno file but i don't know how.

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    05-08-2012 03:40 PM #2
    I don't think there's anything wrong with that if thats wheel HP, if you figure a 15% drivetrain loss that would put you around 161. You are within 1.1 of that. Which is well inside the margin of error of a dyno.
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    05-08-2012 03:46 PM #3
    I am going to assume is not WHP as in europe most dynos quote just HP.

    One easy check is a dead cam sensor.

  4. 05-08-2012 03:47 PM #4
    Quote Originally Posted by NoCYet View Post
    I don't think there's anything wrong with that if thats wheel HP, if you figure a 15% drivetrain loss that would put you around 161. You are within 1.1 of that. Which is well inside the margin of error of a dyno.
    The wheel HP is 126.5.

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    05-08-2012 03:48 PM #5
    Edit for response. And statement is not valid.

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    05-08-2012 04:14 PM #6
    Quote Originally Posted by Sevastian_Vr6 View Post
    The wheel HP is 126.5.
    Need more Information:
    Coilpack or Distributor VR6?
    Were ALL ignition Components replaced with Rebuild? Plugs, Wires, Ignition Coil/Cap/Rotor or Coilpack
    AIT Sensor
    Blue Coolant Temp Sensor
    ECM Itself.

    I had a similar issue with a RETARDED VR6 Dyno of 119WHP. Replaced Coolant Temp Sensor and I made 134WHP. Drove back from MD and Replaced the ISV and O2 sensor, WHAM car came back to life.

    ALL the items I listed are Suspect.
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  7. 05-08-2012 04:24 PM #7
    With distributor. If these sensors do not work should not list the errors when I make a diagnosis?

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    05-08-2012 04:32 PM #8
    Quote Originally Posted by Sevastian_Vr6 View Post
    With distributor. If these sensors do not work should not list the errors when I make a diagnosis?
    Don't just start throwing sensors at it, check Ignition Components and ISV First.
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  9. 05-09-2012 06:12 AM #9
    Quote Originally Posted by DUBZAK View Post
    Don't just start throwing sensors at it, check Ignition Components and ISV First.
    The spark plugs are new, wires are new, so I checked the distributor and coil. I will look on elsawin to see how.

    But what really makes the ISV, I thought only regulates the mines!?

    I noticed that I have a lean mixture because the spark plugs are white and also the exhaust, may be perhaps the fact that I made the cylinders from 2.8 to 2.9 and still have control of the 2.8?

    Thanks in advance!

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    05-09-2012 04:12 PM #10
    What codes do you pull when you scan it?
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  11. 05-10-2012 06:10 AM #11
    Quote Originally Posted by TheBurninator View Post
    What codes do you pull when you scan it?
    VAG-COM Version: Release 409.1-US


    Chassis Type: 50 - VW Corrado
    Scan: 01,02,03,08,15,25

    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 01: Engine
    Controller: 021 906 258 B
    Component: MOTOR PMC 1
    Coding: 0261200494
    Shop #: 1267357207
    No fault code found.
    Readiness: N/A

    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 03: ABS Brakes
    Controller:
    Note: Excessive Comm Errors


    The only error that comes up is the vehicle speed sensor, can be a problem? The odometer works fine.

  12. 05-10-2012 06:12 AM #12
    Why I can't post images? I like to post some screenshoots with the measure blocks. Thanks

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    05-10-2012 07:48 AM #13
    Quote Originally Posted by Sevastian_Vr6 View Post
    Why I can't post images? I like to post some screenshoots with the measure blocks. Thanks

    You have to host the photos. Upload them to a site like photobucket, copy the link they create for you, then post here using the image tags.
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  14. 05-10-2012 02:19 PM #14
    Do you think that value are ok?



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    05-10-2012 02:48 PM #18
    Quote Originally Posted by Sevastian_Vr6 View Post
    The only error that comes up is the vehicle speed sensor, can be a problem? The odometer works fine.
    If the VSS is not communicating with the ECU there will be issues with the engine cutting out in higher gears.
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  17. 05-10-2012 03:14 PM #19
    Quote Originally Posted by TheBurninator View Post
    If the VSS is not communicating with the ECU there will be issues with the engine cutting out in higher gears.
    I did not understand, can it be that I lose 30 horsepower because the vss does not work?

  18. 05-19-2012 02:03 PM #20
    Problem found, camshafts of 2.8l. 2.8l engine control unit. The car now is around 175cv or maybe a little bit more. Thanks all.

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