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Am I the only one that thinks an online petition is enormously stupid and pointless?
I'm not joking. Lawrence was a 6-3 decision, but O'connor joined. She has been replace with Alito who would likely vote to overturn.
Kennedy will likely be retiring soon (He and Scalia have been on the bench the longest). If the Republicans take the White House this year, expect a Scalia or Thomas in his place.
Suddenly we have a 5-4 against legal BJs. Also a lot of other stuff -- watch how you vote for president.
Also Chris, what about your children? I gather you have children and if you do, I imagine that you would do just about anything to make sure they get a fair shot in life. What if one of them is gay? (If you think this is a bad thing, you should probably get your head checked). Do you want your child denied the rights you have because of biology?
Last edited by nm+; 05-09-2012 at 02:02 AM.
Originally Posted by Ducky TSX
yall seem to forget there are 30 states that have similar bans..north carolina isn't the only state with bigots. we're just the most recent to claim it
from what i understand, now that it's part of the constitution the only way to have it repealed is by another public vote. which i could see happening before long
But I do agree on the sheep analogy, we're all being distracted of the big picture while fighting over the crumbs
Remember many of the law still on the books ban heterosexual sodomy, so the minute Lawerence goes down, your blow job is illegal in several states.
Of course it won't be enforced unless you're gay. . . . or black with a white woman or receiving from the sheriff's daughter.
And if you don't think the religious right wants to overturn Lawrence so they can ban gay sex, you're not paying attention.
Originally Posted by Ducky TSX
So people support the law, and the politicians say they'll support it, but they really don't support it because they are straight? So who are the 'people' who'd vote for them that are in support of these laws if they're not also straight men?
Yet these laws are on the books in several states, and are only illegal because, as nm+ pointed out, of a 6-3 Supreme Court ruling that could easily swing the other way depending on judicial appointments in the next few years?
You realize it was only in 2006 that Missouri repealed it's law against "homosexual conduct"? And that Texas, Kansas, and Oklahoma still haven't repealed their sodomy laws?
Ya, you're right, no one in this country wants to legislate the morality of bedroom behavior
And please get your facts straight. 1.2M is not 63% of the voters in NC. It may be 63% of the people that voted on this bill, but it's not 63% of the voters. The NC state board of elections site lists just under 6.3M registered voters in NC. They also list the party breakdown as ~2.74M Democrats vs. ~1.98M Republicans w/ ~1.57M unaffiliated. So, your 1.2M people that voted in favor of this bill represent
Well here they turned it into a political battle. Most of Colorado and lawmakers approve of this, the Republicans decided they weren't going to let the Dems look good by passing this. So they just let it die.