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    05-09-2012 12:55 AM #1
    Hey all, just a quick question before I hack my exhaust up tomorrow.

    I've got this noise coming from under the car forsure. The entire exhaust looks really good and not rusty, but there is this loose change or bees in a can noise coming from under the car. Definitely around the cat / downpipe area.

    just wondering if anyone else has run into this? I'm thinking the core in the cat is messed up or something like that?

    Also, if I cut out the cat, I'm not going to have a spot to put my o2 sensor again. Obviously this will cause a check engine light, but it shouldn't cause any other issues correct?

    I'm still not too used to German cars, more so the japs.
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    05-09-2012 08:53 AM #2
    Loose heatshield.
    Want to roll your fenders or Lamin-X your lights in clear or yellow for THE ABSOLUTE CHEAPEST PRICE IN THE GTA? IM me!
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    05-09-2012 09:12 AM #3
    Could be broken catalyst rattling around.
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    05-09-2012 04:47 PM #4
    Quote Originally Posted by Big Dac With Fries View Post
    Loose heatshield.

    X2

    I had a loose heat shield that was making a combination of VERY strange noises on my 8v.

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    05-09-2012 05:53 PM #5
    also check if the O2 sensors are tight...

  6. 05-09-2012 08:29 PM #6
    Quote Originally Posted by Parademic View Post

    I'm still not too used to German cars, more so the japs.

    so if this was 'a jap', what would you do?
    crap

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    05-09-2012 08:49 PM #7
    Quote Originally Posted by futur View Post
    so if this was 'a jap', what would you do?
    Lol... I've also seen the centre exhaust brackets rust through and cause rattles. Look at the centre hanger/bracket that cradles the exhaust.
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    05-09-2012 10:53 PM #8
    Quote Originally Posted by futur View Post
    so if this was 'a jap', what would you do?
    I've heard of bukkake valves coming loose and rattling. Over time, they can start to spray fluid.
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  9. 05-09-2012 11:03 PM #9
    as Dac said, the problem may be complicated but I'm sure if you invite a bunch of friends over and circle the problem you could give each other a hand and cum to a solution.

    I am unavailable.
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    05-10-2012 12:14 AM #10
    wow....
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    05-10-2012 04:26 AM #11
    Quote Originally Posted by futur View Post
    so if this was 'a jap', what would you do?
    The shop I work at has programs and flashes for most japanese cars. We do not carry really anything for German electrical. And if it was an obd1 car, obviously I would not have to ask about the check engine light.

    Are there any rear o2 eliminator kits?
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    05-10-2012 04:29 AM #12
    Quote Originally Posted by brento View Post
    X2

    I had a loose heat shield that was making a combination of VERY strange noises on my 8v.
    I will do a more thorough check on the heatshields. I removed one already, but I will go ahead and remove the other.

    As for the mounts, the exhaust system on this car, including hangers look damn near brand new, really clear underneath. Rained in Courtice today, so I will have to get at it tomorrow.

    I know one of the heatshields, further down the exhaust, feels a little loose, but I didn't think it could cause much issue. I'd prefer it to be that over having to cut out my cat and weld in a pipe temporarily.

  13. 05-10-2012 05:42 AM #13
    Quote Originally Posted by Parademic View Post
    The shop I work at has programs and flashes for most japanese cars. We do not carry really anything for German electrical. And if it was an obd1 car, obviously I would not have to ask about the check engine light.
    oh, Japanese flashes for electrical noises. of course.

    damn that german electrical. when will they invent compatible electricities?
    crap

  14. 05-10-2012 05:44 AM #14
    Quote Originally Posted by Parademic View Post
    I will do a more thorough check on the heatshields. I removed one already, but I will go ahead and remove the other.
    yes remove them.
    crap

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    05-10-2012 09:19 AM #15
    Hondas sound like bees 2
    Das Lag

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    05-10-2012 09:51 AM #16
    Quote Originally Posted by vwjoem View Post
    Hondas sound like bees 2
    So maybe this is a Japanese production VWl....?
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    05-10-2012 12:39 PM #17
    Quote Originally Posted by futur View Post
    oh, Japanese flashes for electrical noises. of course.

    damn that german electrical. when will they invent compatible electricities?
    I'll post this part of my original thread again, direct copy and paste, hopefully you understand it this time.
    "Also, if I cut out the cat, I'm not going to have a spot to put my o2 sensor again. Obviously this will cause a check engine light, but it shouldn't cause any other issues correct?

    I'm still not too used to German cars, more so the japs. "

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    05-10-2012 12:48 PM #18
    Quote Originally Posted by Parademic View Post
    I'll post this part of my original thread again, direct copy and paste, hopefully you understand it this time.
    "Also, if I cut out the cat, I'm not going to have a spot to put my o2 sensor again. Obviously this will cause a check engine light, but it shouldn't cause any other issues correct?

    I'm still not too used to German cars, more so the japs. "
    HAHAHA! fcuk!
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    05-10-2012 01:24 PM #19
    check the muffler bearing that mofo likes to rattle all the ****ing time on my car

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    05-10-2012 03:45 PM #20
    Quote Originally Posted by SoNgMaN View Post
    check the muffler bearing that mofo likes to rattle all the ****ing time on my car

    First thing I checked was to make sure my halogen fluid was topped up, muffler bearings were second and then I checked the reverse transmission too. All good.

    Another update is I removed all the heatshields that were close to the area where the noise is coming from (around the cat and that was one big ****ing heatshield), noise is still there, so I'm leaning towards the insides of the cat are messed. No real time at work to cut and reweld.

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    05-10-2012 04:53 PM #21
    All you need to do is bang on the shell of the cat with the heel of your hand (or mallet if you're hand is fragile) and you'll be able to hear if the catalyst broken.
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    05-11-2012 01:49 AM #22
    Quote Originally Posted by Scotty_2.0 View Post
    All you need to do is bang on the shell of the cat with the heel of your hand (or mallet if you're hand is fragile) and you'll be able to hear if the catalyst broken.
    I'll do that tomorrow . The only other option could maybe be an exhaust leak, but nothing looks to be rusted through, or in bad shape. hmm.

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    05-11-2012 03:36 PM #23
    Quote Originally Posted by Big Dac With Fries View Post
    I've heard of bukkake valves coming loose and rattling. Over time, they can start to spray fluid.
    bahahaha
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    05-12-2012 02:50 PM #24
    also check between the cat and resonator, there is a clamp bracket that is known for rotting. just replaced one yesterday on a golf i safetied. GL
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    05-15-2012 12:46 AM #25
    Too funny.

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